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I just paid $1600 for a problem coin - here's a pic
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<< <i>Great details, but it's pretty hard to block that 5 out of your mind when looking at it. >>
Unless that "5" is one of the main reasons that you wanted the coin
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Wow! Great deal on that one. Historic and beautiful at a very low price.
Look at the details and surfaces you're getting.. the thing about "damaged" 200+ year old coins, they are less likely than "nice" coins to have been cleaned over the years.
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<< <i>A NICE counterstamped coin at a discount.... >>
A discount from what? Is there an established market value for bust $ with a narly planchet flaw and an enormous 5 stamped in prime focal area?
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<< <i>A NICE counterstamped coin at a discount.... >>
A discount from what? Is there an established market value for bust $ with a narly planchet flaw and an enormous 5 stamped in prime focal area?
CG >>
I like the planchet flaw. A coin with character.
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awesome example
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<< <i>I like it a lot, that's over 80% off and non-nerds will be just as impressed >>
It'd fit right in to my collection...and it'd be a very cool coin for showing to non-nerd friends.
I've noticed that coins dated from the 1700's are especially impressive to non collectors. I've also noticed that anything in a slab is very non interesting to non collectors...
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<< <i>Great details and surfaces as already stated, but for the money I think I'd rather pick up one with more wear, less "5"s. >>
I don't think you can find one straight graded in any grade at PCGS for that price
<< <i>Hmmmm . . . .would that be a candidate for Stockton? He sure couldn't hurt it . . . >>
That was my thought....it would still be a problem coin, but with much better first glance eye appeal, and still at a fraction
of the price of a lower grade problem free piece. I will also admit I've paid more $ than the OP did for early 'genuine' large cents.
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<< <i>I like it a lot, that's over 80% off and non-nerds will be just as impressed >>
It'd fit right in to my collection...and it'd be a very cool coin for showing to non-nerd friends.
I've noticed that coins dated from the 1700's are especially impressive to non collectors. I've also noticed that anything in a slab is very non interesting to non collectors...
Most non-collectors will be more impressed with a $10 Roman bronze than a $10000 classic US coin.
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It evokes different thoughts from many collectors.
Personally, I would have liked the 5 more on the reverse. Just my taste. But we can appreciate others liking it just as it is as well as not.
What is the story behind the "5" counterstamp?
Seriously, a very cool coin.
Recipient of the coveted "You Suck" award, April 2009 for cherrypicking a 1833 CBHD LM-5, and April 2022 for a 1835 LM-12, and again in Aug 2012 for picking off a 1952 FS-902.
Oh, and one more thing, that story is total BS, but I needed to do something while I drank my coffee this morning.
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See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
<< <i>This is a well-known counterstamp. It emanates from a small cutlery shop in Philadelphia in the early part of the 19th century. A store clerk, Christopher Paseda, had recently emigrated from southern Spain and was learning a new language and the complex monetary system at the time (recall that silver coins from around the globe circulated in the US at the time). Local banks accepted coins for deposit only based on weight and reported purity. The cutlery shop kept a registry of silver and gold coins accepted to assist with bank deposits. All this was confusing to the new immigrant, so he devised his own system of identification. With the help of Eunice Mannery, the shop owner's young daughter (who later became his wife), he marked coins as to the country of origin. The '5' simply represents the fifth country on his list, following England, France, Germany, and Mexico.
Oh, and one more thing, that story is total BS, but I needed to do something while I drank my coffee this morning. >>
Cobgrads to you, too, for a fine numis-tale, albeit a falsehood. Your counter-stamped avatar gave credence to your story.
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<< <i>A major negative in a prime visual area. >>
Agree. Pass at that price.
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"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>If that were my coin I would have Allen Stockton expertly repair that coin. I would leave the planchet flaw alone since it was mint created. Stockton does expert work and his repairs are virtually undetectable. Let's face reality---that 5 is nothing more that vandalism on that coin. After the repair I'd get the coin reslabbed. It wouldn't bother me that the label would say "Genuine--Repaired". I could at least then enjoy looking at that coin without grimacing. Of course, this is only my opinion. >>
I see a repaired coin as a form of vandalism as well. Coins were manufactured to circulate as currency and face whatever fate that such activity generated, including a big 5 at a center focal point.
Glad that the coin found a good home with a forum member.
I'd give you his name, but then my life would be in danger.
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<< <i>If that were my coin I would have Allen Stockton expertly repair that coin. I would leave the planchet flaw alone since it was mint created. Stockton does expert work and his repairs are virtually undetectable. Let's face reality---that 5 is nothing more that vandalism on that coin. After the repair I'd get the coin reslabbed. It wouldn't bother me that the label would say "Genuine--Repaired". I could at least then enjoy looking at that coin without grimacing. Of course, this is only my opinion. >>
I'm just curious what Allen Stockton would charge to repair that coin, would anyone have any ideal?
<< <i>This is a well-known counterstamp. It emanates from a small cutlery shop in Philadelphia in the early part of the 19th century. A store clerk, Christopher Paseda, had recently emigrated from southern Spain and was learning a new language and the complex monetary system at the time (recall that silver coins from around the globe circulated in the US at the time). Local banks accepted coins for deposit only based on weight and reported purity. The cutlery shop kept a registry of silver and gold coins accepted to assist with bank deposits. All this was confusing to the new immigrant, so he devised his own system of identification. With the help of Eunice Mannery, the shop owner's young daughter (who later became his wife), he marked coins as to the country of origin. The '5' simply represents the fifth country on his list, following England, France, Germany, and Mexico.
Oh, and one more thing, that story is total BS, but I needed to do something while I drank my coffee this morning. >>
Fool me once
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<< <i>If that were my coin I would have Allen Stockton expertly repair that coin. I would leave the planchet flaw alone since it was mint created. Stockton does expert work and his repairs are virtually undetectable. Let's face reality---that 5 is nothing more that vandalism on that coin. After the repair I'd get the coin reslabbed. It wouldn't bother me that the label would say "Genuine--Repaired". I could at least then enjoy looking at that coin without grimacing. Of course, this is only my opinion. >>
I'm just curious what Allen Stockton would charge to repair that coin, would anyone have any ideal? >>
Go to his web site (www.crs-stockton.com). Every coin repair is different and he will need to see the coin to give you an estimate.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
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<< <i>If that were my coin I would have Allen Stockton expertly repair that coin. I would leave the planchet flaw alone since it was mint created. Stockton does expert work and his repairs are virtually undetectable. Let's face reality---that 5 is nothing more that vandalism on that coin. After the repair I'd get the coin reslabbed. It wouldn't bother me that the label would say "Genuine--Repaired". I could at least then enjoy looking at that coin without grimacing. Of course, this is only my opinion. >>
I see a repaired coin as a form of vandalism as well. Coins were manufactured to circulate as currency and face whatever fate that such activity generated, including a big 5 at a center focal point.
Glad that the coin found a good home with a forum member. >>
I remember a few years ago when a crazy person sliced up a priceless painting. The museum where it was being displayed had it expertly repaired. Do you think the museum was wrong?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>I remember a few years ago when a crazy person sliced up a priceless painting. The museum where it was being displayed had it expertly repaired. Do you think the museum was wrong? >>
I would have left it as is and on display to show the damage that a deranged individual is capable of doing to a century's old fragile work of art.
Impact would have been greater than sheepishly pasting the pieces back together.
<< <i>A store clerk, Christopher Paseda, had recently emigrated from southern Spain and was learning a new language and the complex monetary system at the time. >>
Even The Obama wouldn't give him amnesty for destroying that coin.