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My new 1932 Thomas Cremona Washington Quarter "Pattern" - in a Global Certificaton holder

We all remember my "Do You Own any Pattern Coins" poll where we learned that 64% of the respondents do not own a pattern coin (while 34% do, and 2% are clowns)

I voted no, and my latest purchase doesn't qualify me to change my answer because it's a reproduction, but it is still cool.

I was searching on eBay for a coin in a "Global" holder (remember those?) and I saw this 1932 Thomas Cremona Pattern Gem Washington Quarter Global Certified so I jumped on it right away for $55. Of course after I bought it, I actually looked closer and saw it was a Reproduction

So I didn't get a real pattern, but I still like it. Plus I got a Global holder.
If I was on the committee in 1932, I would have picked this design over the current one. I guess this portrait was of an older fatter George than the young George on the current quarter.

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,579 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've always thought these were kind of neat. I think it would have been nice if they used the Thomas Cremona reverse design as well.

    Glad you like it and thanks for posting imageimage
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    TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    The reverse design was of an older and fatter eagle as well

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,579 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The reverse design was of an older and fatter eagle as well >>



    Is there any information on whether the plasters for the obverse and reverse still exist and, if so, who has them?
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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,579 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>The reverse design was of an older and fatter eagle as well >>



    Is there any information on whether the plasters for the obverse and reverse still exist and, if so, who has them? >>



    This article by D. Wayne Johnson mentions that the Thomas Cremona plasters still exist and that they were sold by NASCA and Dick in the past:



    << <i>The U.S. Treasury returned all unaccepted models. Many of those 1932 competition rejected models were made into cheap tokens, some were destroyed by dejected artists, some were never heard from again, most remained in sculptors’ studios. When their estates are sold these come on the market. Those models by New York sculptor Thomas Cremona bounced around the New York City market for some time. NASCA sold one in their auctions, I sold another. >>



    Anyone have more information on these, who owns them now, and how much they are worth / have sold for?
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    TomBTomB Posts: 23,341 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Don't feel too badly about this being a modern reproduction since these were not proper patterns anyway. This was a submitted design that was later privately produced, which is not the same thing as a pattern as we normally use the term.
    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I had picked on up earlier in the original box of issue this year and did a thread on it.

    The enclosed paperwork tells the whole story.

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    CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,438 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I believe I have a couple of these available if anyone is interested. One in the original box and the other is in a SEGS holder.
    PM me if you have any interest.

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,579 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here is a photo and description of the Thomas C. Cremona plaster that was sold at the 1988 NASCA auction. It's very cool these pieces of history still exist.

    There are two entries in Ancestry.com for a "Thomas Cremona", one living at 10598 Yorktown Heights, Westchester, New York, USA and another living at Passaic, New Jersey, USA. Anyone know what the middle initial C stands for and if the sculptor lived at either of both of thse addresses?

    The auction description is:



    << <i>Obverse only by T.C. Cremona. 2 known? Prefect condition.

    Bust of Washington left, superimposed on the elongated letters of LIBERTY, which occupy the entire 6" circular area of the center. The entire piece is octagonal, with the flat side areas inscribed as follows: GEORGE WASHINGTON / FIRST PRESIDENT / BICENTENNIAL COMMEMORATION. In the corners: 1732 / 1932 / AND THIS BE OUR MOTTO / IN GOD IS OUR TRUST. Our consignor informs us that this was the second place winner in the competition for what was a one year commemorative issue. The winning design was eventually adopted as the standard Washington Quarter still in use today. Cremona later used his design as part of a 1933-34 Chicago Century of Progress medal.

    We know of only one other example, the broken piece in our 61st auction. >>



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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,579 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I had picked on up earlier in the original box of issue this year and did a thread on it. >>



    I remember that thread but cannot find it now. Do you have the link?

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