Baltimore newP 1814 Bust Dime! (Photographed by Todd)
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This is my first Nice bust dime for my set, and she sure was pricey! But at the same time there are almost no Auction records to speak of!!
This is a spectacular AU58! Let me know what you think!
This is a spectacular AU58! Let me know what you think!
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Awesome! Congratulations
got to love how old that is and how it's escaped travesties in life
edited to add: Fantastic images Todd!!
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<< <i>Not a fan of the black as it makes me wonder if the coin was lighted prior to submission or even PCGS's restoration dept? >>
I unfortunately agree, that was the first thing that I thought upon seeing it. >>
I agree too, most likely a very dark coin that was dipped at that is what came out of the wash. Cool coin though
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<< <i>Not a fan of the black as it makes me wonder if the coin was lighted prior to submission or even PCGS's restoration dept? >>
I unfortunately agree, that was the first thing that I thought upon seeing it. >>
I agree too, most likely a very dark coin that was dipped at that is what came out of the was. Cool coin though >>
This wasn't dipped in full strength dipping solution but a highly diluted dip with a far greater mix ratio of distilled water.
This allows for repeated dips until the desired results are achieved without having the coin look blast white or dipped out.
<< <i>Not a fan of the black as it makes me wonder if the coin was lighted prior to submission or even PCGS's restoration dept? >>
I agree, the black stuff would concern me too. I'm a bit surprised that it stickered.
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<< <i>This is my first Nice bust dime for my set, and she sure was pricey! But at the same time there are almost no Auction records to speak of!!
This is a spectacular AU58! >>
I see these auction records for the 1814 Large Date:
4488 Jan-2006 $1,035 AU58 NGC Heritage Jules Reiver Volume III 22142 Penn-Jersey Coins 10/1982
4488 Jan-2006 $633 AU58 NGC Heritage Jules Reiver Volume III 22143
4488 May-2005 $719 AU58 NGC Heritage 2005 St. Louis, MO (CSNS) Signature Auction #372 6370
4488 May-2003 $633 AU58 PCGS Heritage 2003 May Long Beach Signature Sale #324 5730
4488 Jul-2002 $489 AU58 NGC Heritage New York Signature Sale 6609
4488 Feb-2002 $1,667 AU58 PCGS Ira & Larry Goldberg Benson Part II 463 B.from Macallister 2/20/45
4488 Oct-1987 $1,320 AU58 NONE Bowers & Merena Norweb Collection Part 1 411 Ex. Stacks MANA Convention (1954)
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4488 May-2013 $712 AU55 NGC Stack's/Bowers The June 2013 Baltimore Auction 3352
4488 Sep-2007 $920 AU55 ANACS Heritage LB Signature Sale #446 927
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4488 May-2014 $374 AU53 ANACS Great Collections GreatCollections Coin Auctions 05/11/2014 173711
4488 Aug-2011 $913 AU53 PCGS eBay eBay Sales in August, 2011 1146
4488 Aug-2011 $863 AU53 PCGS Stack's/Bowers The August 2011 Chicago ANA World's Fair of Money Auction 688
4488 Aug-2011 $863 AU53 PCGS Stack's/Bowers Chicago ANA Pre-Show 688
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4488 Sep-2013 $881 MS60 NGC Heritage 2013 September 25 - 29 US Coins Signature Auction - Long Beach #1189 7613
4488 Jul-2004 $690 MS60 NONE Heritage 2004 July New York, NY Signature Sale #320 7837
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4488 Apr-2006 $1,380 MS61 NGC Heritage Atlanta ANA Signature Sale #402 389
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4488 Aug-2012 $1,410 MS62 NGC Heritage 2012 August 2-5 US Coins Signature Auction- Philadelphia #1173 3166
4488 Jan-2011 $1,438 MS62 NGC Heritage Internet Coin Auction #211022 22806
4488 Jan-2001 $975 MS62 NGC Heritage Exclusively Internet Auction #21012 2180
4488 Oct-1997 $4,400 MS62 NONE David Akers John Jay Pittman I 546 Ex. Bluestone Sale (1945)
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4488 Mar-2014 $2,147 MS63 NGC Great Collections GreatCollections Coin Auctions 03/30/2014 164901
4488 Apr-2010 $2,185 MS63 NGC Heritage 2010 April-May Milwaukee, WI CSNS US Coin Auction #1139 506
4488 Jul-2005 $3,565 MS63 NGC Scotsman The Midwest Summer Sale 532
4488 Nov-2004 $2,300 MS63 NGC American Numismatic Rarities The Frog Run Farm Collection 515
4488 Feb-2001 $4,830 MS63 PCGS Ira & Larry Goldberg Benson Part I/Heathgate 1562
4488 Aug-1998 $1,610 MS63 PCGS Heritage ANA98 6325 JR-2
4488 Feb-1998 $1,292 MS63 PCGS Superior Galleries Rasmussen 1816 JR-2; ex: Byron Reed Collection
4488 Jun-1997 $1,485 MS63 PCGS Kingswood Galleries Kingswood II 35
4488 May-1996 $1,760 MS63 NONE Bowers & Merena Louis E. Eliasberg, Sr. I 1059 JR-2
4488 May-1941 $9.00 MS63 NONE Numismatic Gallery World's Greatest Collection V (Boyd) 458
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38774 Aug-2014 $3,055 MS64 NGC Heritage 2014 August 5, 7 & 9 ANA US Coins Signature Auction - Chicago #1208 3446
4488 Jan-2013 $3,525 MS64 NGC Heritage 2013 January 9-14 US Coin FUN Signature Auction - Orlando #1181 3932
4488 Jan-2011 $3,738 MS64 NGC Heritage 2011 January Tampa FUN Signature & Platinum Night US Coin Auction #1151 3271
4488 Apr-2009 $3,485 MS64 NGC Heritage 2009 April-May Cincinnati, OH (CSNS) US Coin Auction #1124 83 Joseph C. Thomas
4488 Mar-2009 $3,901 MS64 PCGS Heritage 2009 March Baltimore, MD Signature US Coin Auction #1126 791
4488 Dec-2008 $5,463 MS64 PCGS Heritage 2008 December Houston, TX Signature Coin Auction #1118 1075
4488 Dec-2008 $4,370 MS64 NGC Teletrade Auction 2625 1065
4488 Jul-2008 $4,140 MS64 NGC Heritage 2008 July-August Baltimore, MD (ANA) US Coin Signature Auction #1114 65
4488 Jul-2008 $3,738 MS64 NGC Heritage 2008 July-August Baltimore, MD (ANA) US Coin Signature Auction #1114 64
4488 May-2008 $5,290 MS64 NGC Stack's The Minot Collection 1253
4488 Jan-2007 $3,335 MS64 NGC David Lawrence RC Internet Auction # 124 420 (JR-3)
4488 Aug-2006 $2,990 MS64 NGC Heritage Denver Signature Sale #414 843
4488 Jun-2006 $5,290 MS64 NGC Stack's The June Sale 453
4488 Apr-2006 $3,738 MS64 PCGS Heritage 2006 April (CSNS) Signature Auction #404 1190
4488 Jan-2006 $3,740 MS64 PCGS Heritage 2006 January Orlando, FL (FUN #1) Signature Auction #394 1709
4488 Aug-2005 $3,105 MS64 PCGS Bowers & Merena August 2005 Baltimore 1114
4488 Mar-2005 $3,565 MS64 PCGS Kingswood Galleries The Diamond Springs Sale 186
4488 Feb-2005 $10,350 MS64 PCGS Ira & Larry Goldberg Pre-Long Beach 1067 ex Garrett
4488 Dec-2004 $3,249 MS64 NGC Bowers & Merena December 2004 Baltimore 729
4488 Dec-2004 $2,760 MS64 NGC Heritage 2004 December Dallas Signature Sale #277 5704
4488 May-2004 $3,450 MS64 NGC Superior Galleries Pre-Long Beach 1250
4488 Apr-2004 $3,910 MS64 NGC Superior Galleries Santa Clara 1132
4488 Mar-2004 $2,530 MS64 NGC Heritage Mid-Winter ANA04 5500 Fred Miller
4488 Dec-2003 $2,875 MS64 NGC Heritage Exclusively Internet Auction #24011 11262
4488 Jul-2003 $3,910 MS64 PCGS Bowers & Merena ANA03 619
4488 Jul-2003 $2,645 MS64 NGC American Numismatic Rarities Classics Sale ANA03 343
4488 Jul-2003 $2,473 MS64 NGC Heritage 2003 July Baltimore, MD. Signature Sale #328 6523
4488 Jun-2003 $2,990 MS64 NGC Bowers & Merena The Sanctuary Sale 369
4488 Mar-2003 $3,220 MS64 NGC Bowers & Merena Craig N. Smith/George Youngman 1241
4488 Feb-2003 $2,300 MS64 NGC Heritage 2003 February Long Beach Signature Sale #314 6224
4488 Sep-2002 $6,325 MS64 PCGS Bowers & Merena Rarities 204
4488 Sep-2002 $2,185 MS64 NGC Heritage Long Beach 6179 John Adams
4488 Jul-2002 $3,220 MS64 NGC Heritage New York Signature Sale 6610
4488 Mar-2002 $3,220 MS64 NGC Heritage Exclusively Internet Auction #22034 17134
4488 Feb-2002 $2,530 MS64 PCGS Ira & Larry Goldberg Benson Part II 462
4488 Aug-2001 $2,645 MS64 PCGS Bowers & Merena Rarities 99
4488 Oct-2000 $2,530 MS64 NONE Superior Galleries Pre-Long Beach 3039 JR-2
4488 Jun-2000 $3,680 MS64 NONE Superior Galleries Pre-Long Beach 1310 JR-2
4488 Mar-1999 $1,840 MS64 NGC Heritage Mid-Winter ANA99 (Sacramento) 6303 JR-3
4488 Feb-1999 $2,645 MS64 NGC Superior Galleries Pre-Long Beach 2616 JR-2
4488 Oct-1997 $5,280 MS64 NGC Stack's Albert W. Savage 449 JR-2
4488 Jul-1997 $2,990 MS64 PCGS Heritage ANA97 6134 JR-3
4488 May-1996 $8,140 MS64 NONE Bowers & Merena Louis E. Eliasberg, Sr. I 1061 JR-4
4488 Jan-1996 $2,420 MS64 PCGS Superior Galleries Piedmont Sale 1343
4488 Jun-1941 $5.75 MS64 NONE B. Max Mehl W.F. Dunham Collection 139 Bright uncirculated
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http://www.pcgs.com/auctionprices/details.aspx?r=4488&v=large%2bdate&dv=1814&pf=ms&c=94&g=0
Is this from EyeAppealingCoins?
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<< <i>Not a fan of the black as it makes me wonder if the coin was lighted prior to submission or even PCGS's restoration dept? >>
I unfortunately agree, that was the first thing that I thought upon seeing it. >>
I agree too, most likely a very dark coin that was dipped at that is what came out of the wash. Cool coin though >>
I don't think there's any question the dime was dipped. And I'd guess that it was important to saving the coin. Black toning is near terminal and over time it will etch the surface.
I love the meaty look of the coin. I'm sure it's lustrous too. Great grade. Well done!
Lance.
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The Black isnt really as bad as it seems, and almost completely disappears when tilted at an angle. The luster is gorgeous and strong still, the coin doesnt have a dipped out look or i would not have touched it. The auction result reference was more for the au58 grade which has not seen an example since 2006...over 8 years ago!
I'm not put off by the darker toning and light centers. It looks like a lustrous example of a tough date. Where are all the nice bust dimes from 1809-1825? There are lots in the '30s it seems.
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<< <i>Not a fan of the black as it makes me wonder if the coin was lighted prior to submission or even PCGS's restoration dept? >>
I unfortunately agree, that was the first thing that I thought upon seeing it. >>
I agree too, most likely a very dark coin that was dipped at that is what came out of the wash. Cool coin though >>
I don't think there's any question the dime was dipped. And I'd guess that it was important to saving the coin. Black toning is near terminal and over time it will etch the surface.
I love the meaty look of the coin. I'm sure it's lustrous too. Great grade. Well done!
Lance. >>
My point wasn't that it was dipped (of course it was), it was that the heavy tone was too far gone to be removed nore would you want it to be with what often lies underneath such tone.
<< <i>Thanks for the responses everyone!!
The Black isnt really as bad as it seems, and almost completely disappears when tilted at an angle. The luster is gorgeous and strong still, the coin doesnt have a dipped out look or i would not have touched it. The auction result reference was more for the au58 grade which has not seen an example since 2006...over 8 years ago! >>
The last one I've seen with that kind of black toning turned in the holder within a few months - it had been Cloroxed
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<< <i>Thanks for the responses everyone!!
The Black isnt really as bad as it seems, and almost completely disappears when tilted at an angle. The luster is gorgeous and strong still, the coin doesnt have a dipped out look or i would not have touched it. The auction result reference was more for the au58 grade which has not seen an example since 2006...over 8 years ago! >>
The last one I've seen with that kind of black toning turned in the holder within a few months - it had been Cloroxed >>
Not the case with this example however potassium chloride is a old time doctoring treatment used to darken silver and will etch the surfaces. You can find pre 1840's coinage with this false look in TPG holders at any major show and the best way to spot it is around the stars with a loupe. Another giveaway is if there's any handling oil remaining on a treated coin as it will only affect the degreased surfaces.