Express submission results: an AG03 and a Genuine 98
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I'm so happy with my latest Express submission results: an AG03 and a Genuine 98.
The AG03 was a 1796 quarter that is obviously not full Good on the reverse, so you always worry that a coin like that will come back with some kind of damage you didn't notice. So AG03 is what I was hoping for.
The Genuine- 98 was an 1870-CC quarter with VF-XF details and lots of knife cuts on the reverse. Authenticity is the only concern there, since it obviously won't grade. I believe this is the first time I ever sent in a coin looking for it to "make" the Genuine 98 grade.
Nightmare scenario on these would have been an expertly holed and plugged 1796 quarter (I have seen killer repair jobs), and a Counterfeit result on the 1870-CC.
I don't have a picture of the 1870-cc uploaded right now, but here's a quick & dirty shot of the 1796. Beat up reverse, but it's still a $6,500-$7,000 coin that many collectors never get to own.
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Sweet. Yes, one of the few times those grades are welcomed! Holy Cow on the value of that 1870-CC by the way!!
Too many positive BST transactions with too many members to list.
i've seen a lot of damaged CC survival rarities and if one compromises a bit on quality and having to have a "numerically graded" piece, they can have tons of fun under the sun. i've seen simple minor
corrosion take a $50k coin to $5k. give or take.
nice 25c drapie btw. only a generation after "e pluribus unum" no less.
put some grime in the fields and you'll have a nice circ-cam there.
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she surely traveled in her days too
no pics of this 70-cc quarter so no comment...
Funny story about this coin. When I purchased the complete set that contained this coin and the 1796, I needed a month or two to scrounge up the funds. In the mean time, a greedy dealer saw the set, and was royally ticked off that he didn't get first shot. He then proceeded to tell the original owner how I had taken him to the cleaners on the purchase price. Part of his story was that this 1870-CC was struck from canceled dies, not scratched, and was thus worth the price of an unimpaired example (if not more!!!). So I had bought it for a small fraction of its value according to him. I do not need to explain to the crowd on these boards how to distinguish PMD from a coin struck from canceled dies, so I won't. Obviously, the original owner did not fall for it either. It never ceases to amaze me what lies some people in the coin industry will tell in order to get their hands on a good collection or estate. Makes you appreciate the honest, reputable dealers & collectibles when you have the privilege of dealing with them.
By the way, I paid the original owner between G04 and VG08 money for the 1796, even with the slick reverse. He thought the coin was almost VG for some reason, and I did not want to create an argument over the very first coin in the set, so I let this one slide. With increases in market price since that time, the coin is worth right about what I paid for it, and many of the other dates in the set have advanced nicely in value. So I made out fine.
I will! So I've got this 1870-CC quarter that was clandestinely struck from canceled dies... I'll sell it to ya for just 20% over XF Price Guide!
There was an MS62 OGH in the set.
Do you have a Registry set that these go in?
As far as that dealer, I would have given the quarter to the owner and sent him in to sell it to the fool. It should be worth about 40 grand if that is not graffiti. (Or more as he claimed.)
to have an example with that level of detail...truly can turn heads
sweet example...thanks for tossing the image in this thread too
lmao....cancelled dies and a losers whine....hehehe...PRICELESS !!!!!!!!!!!
everyone used to laff at my 70-cc dollar that was a good obverse with a vg reverse back in the 80's...you bought that they'd say
i always smiled though....1870...1st year that ol carson city mint fired up and started to press um out
it was more so a history piece to me
i actually purchased a fine 1796 quarter in 1990 from an ad in coin world...coughed up $3.5k my wife at the time did
rrrgghh...dealer called us to inform us he forgot to mention it was plugged and repaired due to the old hole it sported
my wife at the time handled the whole thing...including his call
he got an ear full shall we say
but yeah
sweet examples...type most will only ever look at others examples or images of
congrats
oh my...to make a 1796 quarter...yup...be proud...
Those are some heavies! Congratulations
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<< <i>As far as that dealer, I would have given the quarter to the owner and sent him in to sell it to the fool. It should be worth about 40 grand if that is not graffiti. (Or more as he claimed.) >>
ditto.
The dealer was a jerk, to be blunt.
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if you posted that 78-cc before, the image name(s) were different.
nothing in my database or this forum turns up anything under - 1870CCquar_zpse21ca061
i tried to find another thread cuz its buggin' me i can't place if i've seen that coin or not and like you stated, it is not a coin one should soon forget.
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<< <i>Nice first Busty Quarter. I like the dirt on it. Congrats on the grade and congrats finding a 70-CC. >>
Indeed, the crust factor makes that quaddah a VERY nice AG. I would rather have that than a full G4 with no contrast or original "skin".
I once had an 1870-CC half that looked about like your 1796 quarter, except it also had an old yellow Scotch tape stain in a diagonal band across the reverse. I bought it for 50 bucks in 1981 or so, when I was a YN. I wonder what the subsequent owners paid for it. I haven't kept abreast of the trends on that date, but it's a safe bet you couldn't buy even a stained AG for 50 bux nowadays.
Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.