This Guy Is A Liar... An 1814 CBH

BustHalfBrian · October 22, 2014 10:14AM

In case anyone had planned on bidding...

eBay vs Heritage

Calling this coin "Uncirculated+" is comical. I'd sooner call it XF.

coin22lover · October 22, 2014 10:19AM

He won it yesterday and is even using their pictures?

Cougar1978 · October 22, 2014 10:21AM

Wow - One reason I don't buy raw expensive coins.

Goldbully · October 22, 2014 10:24AM

dr.jtc is a con artist.....BHB......you have an amazing eye for coin fraud.

Goldbully · October 22, 2014 10:26AM

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morgansforever · October 22, 2014 10:27AM

Crazy, the seller doesn't even posses the coin, love the tale about the Dansco album.

EDIT: Contacted the seller with the link, wonder if he or she will respond.

indeetlib · October 22, 2014 10:32AM

Wow - that's unbelievable. I can't even count the number of lies in the description.

MsMorrisine · October 22, 2014 10:33AM

What was the hammer?

Unknown · October 22, 2014 10:37AM

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BustHalfBrian · October 22, 2014 10:38AM

<< Agreed about the seller but I guess no one was hurt since it just sold for approx. the same price as HA's yesterday. weird? >>

It didn't sell...

He just ended the listing!

BustHalfBrian · October 22, 2014 10:39AM

<< Crazy, the seller doesn't even posses the coin, love the tale about the Dansco album.

EDIT: Contacted the seller with the link, wonder if he or she will respond. >>

I think that's what did it.

Tookybandit · October 22, 2014 10:42AM

Very nice detective work!

pcgs69 · October 22, 2014 10:42AM

wow, part of his album and was in an Unc holder... not cool

indeetlib · October 22, 2014 10:45AM

Here's another good one of his...

ebay vs great collections

Let's see if we can get that one ended

Goldbully · October 22, 2014 10:47AM

<< 

<< Agreed about the seller but I guess no one was hurt since it just sold for approx. the same price as HA's yesterday. weird? >>

It didn't sell...

He just ended the listing!

>>

Zero feedback buyer???

indeetlib · October 22, 2014 10:49AM

<< Here's another good one of his...

ebay vs great collections

Let's see if we can get that one ended

>>

GONE...that was quick.

MsMorrisine · October 22, 2014 10:51AM

Who is dr.jtc anyway?

Barndog · October 22, 2014 10:51AM

it can be quite profitable to sell electronic images. Caveat emptor

luckybucks · October 22, 2014 11:03AM

SLQ has ended as well.

sparky64 · October 22, 2014 11:09AM

bolivarshagnasty · October 22, 2014 11:13AM

Confucius say, Man who buy raw, is Man who's rubbed raw.

coindeuce · October 22, 2014 11:34AM

This rat will either generate a new eBay ID, or start using pics that will not be so obviously copied from his buying source.

drfish · October 22, 2014 12:07PM

Guess that explains why he didn't send his "cracked" ms 62 Arrows Rays seated half in for grading before selling it on eBay. I was tempted to bid on the coin but had a hard time believing that anyone would sell a ms62 raw on eBay. Someone spent over a $1,000 on that coin - likely cleaned as well. No returns was the deciding factor for me ( plus most of his cherished 7070 photos were in TPG holders)

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lkeigwin · October 22, 2014 1:30PM

What a dirtbag.

Let's hope he is young and stupid and learned something from this. We've all done something bonehead.
Lance.

johnny9434 · October 23, 2014 5:28AM

amazing carp

crazyhounddog · October 23, 2014 5:33AM

There's a word for this slime ball but I can't use it here.

Edited to say you have a GREAT eye for this kind of stuff!! Way to go bud!!!!

Wabbit2313 · October 23, 2014 5:48AM

Wow, nice job of catching this.

At what point does blatant lying become outright fraud?

WoodenJefferson · October 23, 2014 7:30AM

Nobody in their right mind would crack out a formerly graded MS 66 FH 1917 Type 1 SLQ for their album...would they?

BigMoose · October 23, 2014 9:34AM

What a douche bag.

astrorat · October 23, 2014 9:40AM

<< Wow, nice job of catching this.

At what point does blatant lying become outright fraud? >>

Lying infers an intent to deceive, otherwise it's not lying ... blatant or not. Lying is fraud.

Barndog · October 23, 2014 1:07PM

any idea who the ebay ID is associated with, where he lives, etc?

mariner67 · October 23, 2014 2:18PM

Really disturbing low life!
Great detective work here.

lordmarcovan · October 23, 2014 2:51PM

<< Confucius say, Man who buy raw, is Man who's rubbed raw.

>>

jdillane · October 24, 2014 5:31AM

Love it that this shyster chump got made. Hopefully he will get hit with the ebay fees for his troubles.

19Lyds · October 24, 2014 5:56AM

Unfortunately, it is tactics such as this which give coin dealers a bad name and it is always nice to know "the Truth" about who you may or may not be doing business with taking specific note of the "No Returns Accepted" by the eBay seller which was obviously put in place to stifle any attempt at making the return once it became obvious that the coin had been whizzed.

Is the ocean REALLY that full of fish??

jdillane · January 29, 2015 7:25AM

Just revisited this post and see that the Whizzed 1814 is back up. This time the description includes his opinion that the coin has unc details. Fortunately he has already demonstrated that he is not one to trust.

Yorkshireman · January 29, 2015 7:35AM

If the coin did sell on Ebay, he made all of $3 from Heritage to Ebay.

That is too much work for $3. Won't even buy lunch at McDonald's

GoldCoin98 · January 29, 2015 7:41AM

Here's one more for good measure:

Ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1795-1-Flowing-Hair-Dollar-Strong-XF-Extra-Fine-/271750386231?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3f4595d237

Heritage: http://coins.ha.com/itm/early-dollars/1795-1-flowing-hair-three-leaves-b-5-bb-27-r1-environmental-damage-ngc-details-xf/a/1216-5213.s?type=NGC1216

NumisOxide · January 29, 2015 7:50AM

Nice catch Brian!

puffer · January 29, 2015 9:11AM

Whizzed coins are never Unc..

WhiteTornado · January 29, 2015 9:22AM

<< Here's one more for good measure:

Ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1795-1-Flowing-Hair-Dollar-Strong-XF-Extra-Fine-/271750386231?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3f4595d237

Heritage: http://coins.ha.com/itm/early-dollars/1795-1-flowing-hair-three-leaves-b-5-bb-27-r1-environmental-damage-ngc-details-xf/a/1216-5213.s?type=NGC1216 >>

eBay linked

HA linked

Sold through HA on 1/8/15 for $2,350.00.

Casman · January 29, 2015 9:34AM

<< 

<< Here's one more for good measure:

Ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1795-1-Flowing-Hair-Dollar-Strong-XF-Extra-Fine-/271750386231?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3f4595d237

Heritage: http://coins.ha.com/itm/early-dollars/1795-1-flowing-hair-three-leaves-b-5-bb-27-r1-environmental-damage-ngc-details-xf/a/1216-5213.s?type=NGC1216 >>

eBay linked

HA linked

Sold through HA on 1/8/15 for $2,350.00. >>

Yes and notice it even has a sticker with it...12,000 gray sheet bid...LOL...

crazyhounddog · January 29, 2015 9:51AM

He lost money on it if that makes ya feel any better. But, yes, he is a BIG stinky liar.

shorecoll · January 29, 2015 10:11AM

I know there might be a difference of opinion on "cleaned"...but not on whizzed. Sleazy.

coindeuce · January 29, 2015 10:29AM

I see that the scumbag has the whizzed 1814 half back up in auction at ebay, this time around simply described as High Grade in the title. He apparently is getting LOTS of questions about the coin, as my attempt was supposedly rejected because of high volumes of messages to him.

This Guy Is A Liar... An 1814 CBH

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