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Why is the Pine Tree Shilling N backwards?

ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,406 ✭✭✭✭✭
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I just noticed that the first N in England is backwards but the 3 other Ns on this side aren't.

Anyone know why this is the case?

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  • Cam40Cam40 Posts: 8,146 ✭
    Dyslexic die maker?
  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,347 ✭✭✭✭
    that letter seems to receive retrograde treatment a lot in die preparation......have seen it on countless foreign coins as well as a Bechtler

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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    maybe the engraver had the letter N punch upside-down! image

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 38,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    that spanky. him and his backwards "N"... but that's better than alfalfa's backwards "R"

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  • BIGAL2749BIGAL2749 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭✭
    Engraver may have had a fight with his wife that morning.

    BTW great luster and nice coin!
  • Cam40Cam40 Posts: 8,146 ✭
    ..so that's who wrote the Toys R Us sign...
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,649 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Little known fact - it was Dan Quayle's great grandfather. image
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    Nice coin!
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Little known fact - it was Dan Quayle's great grandfather. image >>



    Ha... The inner and outer ring of dots sure look like Potatoes image
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hand engraving ain't easy!
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  • WoodenJeffersonWoodenJefferson Posts: 6,491 ✭✭✭✭
    I always thought it was done to dis the British monarchy.
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  • edix2001edix2001 Posts: 3,388 ✭
    Of course the obvious answer is that he was drunk.
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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,785 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good, honest, question.

    Too bad about all the smart@$$ answers that don't add anything.

    I, too, had never noticed it until you pointed it out and it would be interesting to know the answer....

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  • Cam40Cam40 Posts: 8,146 ✭
    I always thought it was done to dis the British monarchy.

    That sounds plausible.
  • JohnHarperJohnHarper Posts: 145 ✭
    If you punch an 'N' with the punch upside down, it still looks like 'N'.
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I always thought it was done to dis the British monarchy.

    That sounds plausible. >>



    I feel it may have once had some meaning too as on the 1838 New York - Am I not a Woman & Sister hard time tokens the N in UNITED is reversed and die-sinker John Gibbs made no other mistakes.

    The N is also backward on 2 of Christopher Bechtler's gold dollars.


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  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 8,163 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Where is CRO Man when he is needed?
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  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,359 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Where is CRO Man when he is needed? >>



    I suspect he's in the LA area lot viewing.
  • CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,686 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Where is CRO Man when he is needed? >>



    I suspect he's in the LA area lot viewing. >>



    Not yet. I would chalk up the backward N's to a charming but unintentional engraving error. And one that has occurred many times through the years on a variety of different coin types, one of which we featured in an ad in 2007:

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  • ebaytraderebaytrader Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Why is the Pine Tree Shilling N backwards? >>



    362 years of publick skewls?
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,406 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Awesome coin and awesome ad / caption! image

    Is the Pine Tree Shilling the earliest known of this in the Americas?



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    << <i>

    << <i>Where is CRO Man when he is needed? >>



    I suspect he's in the LA area lot viewing. >>



    Not yet. I would chalk up the backward N's to a charming but unintentional engraving error. And one that has occurred many times through the years on a variety of different coin types, one of which we featured in an ad in 2007:

    image >>

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  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,927 ✭✭✭✭✭
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