new 1913 type one 3 & 1/2 legged buffalo nickel
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Here is the photo of a new 1913 type one buffalo nickel with enough of the front leg missing to call it a 3 and one half legged buffalo nickel, but this is not die number one which is in the CP guide........
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Looks like much of the top and middle of the affected leg has been removed by die abrasion. There is certainly enough of the leg missing to call in a 3 & 1/2 legger. This is one to look for.
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[/URL]Looks like much of the top and middle of the affected leg has been removed by die abrasion. There is certainly enough of the leg missing to call in a 3 & 1/2 legger. This is one to look for.
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<< <i>I'm not sure what I'm looking at with this image. Ya got a far away shot to see?? >>
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it looks like another insignificant abraded die Variety from the series, a shot of the Buffalo's fist leg.
Well, you either like abraded dies or you don't. There seems to be no middle ground.
the picture included herein is a blowup of the front legs of the bison, with one greatly reduced by die abrasion.
it is not the one pictured in the cherry pickers guide, so i am calling it die number two.
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from the bison's perspective it is the right front leg that has been affected.
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<< <i>the left half of the photo shows the front leg that has been abraded. at the top of the left half you can see where the leg has been reduced by abrading. abrading lines are present
from the bison's perspective it is the right front leg that has been affected. >>
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<< <i>it looks like another insignificant abraded die Variety from the series >>
Well that certainly isn't a nice thing to say.
What is insignificant to the goose may be significant to the gander.
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so what should I do, gush about how sweet it is, give a way to go and a "you suck" to the OP??
it is what it is. you probably know the series better than me but what I do know is that there was an apparent problem with dies clashing or metal/debris getting stuck on the dies, coupled with a stinginess of the Mint in preparing sufficient dies for the coining of what was necessary for commerce. the end result is that coupled with over-zealous polishing by Mint employees we have a lot of rather insignificant yet interesting abraded die coins from the series. if they appeal to you I think you should collect them, stuff like all the two-feather coins and the three/three-and-a-half-legged issues.
just so you don't feel like you are being picked on, I for one feel we have been engaged in Variety mania for about a decade now. this is apparently the latest entry.
If I stare at it long enough, and let my eye un-focus, I see a spaceship.
<< <i>If I stare at it long enough, and let my eye un-focus, I see a spaceship. >>
<< <i>Well that certainly isn't a nice thing to say.
so what should I do, gush about how sweet it is, give a way to go and a "you suck" to the OP??
just so you don't feel like you are being picked on, I for one feel we have been engaged in Variety mania for about a decade now. this is apparently the latest entry. >>
I understand that dies varieties aren't for everyone (me included), but I respect that others might be passionate about them. So when I see threads on such subject matter, I tend to skip them. Better to say nothing than be negative.
"Interesting- is there any obverse die abrasion through the third feather like the other 1913 3 1/2 legger?"
There is no obverse die abrasion about the small feather area, so this is a different obverse die than the one paired with die number one reverse.
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<< <i>All I see is the hair.
bob
so do i
<< <i>There is no obverse die abrasion about the small feather area, so this is a different die than the one paired with die number one. >>
Very cool! Sounds like you are right that this is a different die, since the obverse abrasion happened before the leg abrasion on the other version.
Thanks for posting this- I'll have to start looking at both sides of 1913 ty1s now
here later.
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so i drew some lines of normal buffalo front legs on it...to emphasize this
looks 3 leg to me
they ground that other leg off that die and produced coins on it
<< <i>this might help some with image...image lacks contrast to work with and test's one envisioning skills
so i drew some lines of normal buffalo front legs on it...to emphasize this
looks 3 leg to me
they ground that other leg off that die and produced coins on it
I wonder why the OP won't post an image of the whole coin? I would love to see it. This image leaves a lot to be desired.
<< <i>I wonder why the OP won't post an image of the whole coin? I would love to see it. This image leaves a lot to be desired. >>
after all the moose buffalo's you post here....crazyhounddog
even my buffalo's are scared
your herd might not only laugh but break down the corral and trampled um to pieces
for showing themselves in public...
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Certainly another one to look for.
Have not been able to locate a second one though I sure have been looking.
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huge congrats too
<< <i>I'm not sure what I'm looking at with this image. Ya got a far away shot to see??
it looks like another insignificant abraded die Variety from the series, a shot of the Buffalo's fist leg. >>
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<< <i>I wonder why the OP won't post an image of the whole coin? I would love to see it. This image leaves a lot to be desired. >>
after all the moose buffalo's you post here....crazyhounddog
even my buffalo's are scared
your herd might not only laugh but break down the corral and trampled um to pieces
for showing themselves in public...
Your a funny guy, Ted.
Nice looking and interesting Buff. But why SEGS ?
Because the do an excellent job with abraded die varieties.
As a side note this coin was originally in an NGC holder unattributed.
The only abraded die variety NGC will do is the 1937-d 3 legger.
They made this decision years ago and you can find some 1936-d
three and one half legged buffaloes (fs-019) in their slabs that
they did before they made this decision. If you are unlucky
enough to not know this and you send in this 3 & 1/2 legger
for slabbing now it will come back with the variety not noted
on the insert. This to the best of my knowledge is their
current position on abraded dies. 1937-d 3 legger only
one they will do.
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<< <i>"Nice looking and interesting Buff. But why SEGS ? "
Because the do an excellent job with abraded die varieties.
As a side note this coin was originally in an NGC holder unattributed.
The only abraded die variety NGC will do is the 1937-d 3 legger. >>
I wonder why that is?
Someone at NGC made the decision years ago that abraded die varieties were not worth noting.
Only the 37-d three legger was "grandfathered" in and to this day if you send in a 3 1/2 legged
or 2 feather buffalo it will not be slabbed as a variety. This here particular coin was in an NGC
slab unattributed. SEGS and PCGS do a real good job with these abraded die varieties.
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Tom
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<< <i>And of course the value and significance to this variety is up to the individual collector.
Tom >>
Guess I'll amend the comments about my 1916 then.
This coin was originally in an NGC holder and of course unattributed. NGC decided years ago that they would not attribute any abraded die varieties because the dies had just been "damaged". They thought the additional value added to the coin by this damage was little if any. The only abraded die they still slab is the 1937-d three legged bison, which was sort of "grand-fathered in" because it was so popular with buffalo nickel collectors. As with any coin the beauty, significance, and value is strictly in the eye of the beholder.
I believe abraded dies are legit -- see Ron's book!
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The only abraded die variety NGC will do is the 1937-d 3 legger. >>
I have an NGC F12 1936-d 3, 1/2 leg
slabbed before the decision was made to no longer slab any of these overdates.
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