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Ipad vs Driod Tablet

I have some questions that need to be answered. First, I am trying to decide on what to by. I have a Driod phone and have never owned an Apple product. But recently while at a show, I dealt with another dealers that was using a Ipad to access a World coin book to get info. I would like to do this as well as have my greysheet on a tablet. Also want to be able to use coinfacts on a tablet. I presently use my phone to access coinfacts while at a show. It seems to be a slow process moving from page to page. I ask PCGS if they would consider an app for droid users, but was told nothing was in the works. If I were to buy a Ipad, I thought about buying a refurbished form Apple. Will 16Gb be enough memory. Please give more input on using a Driod vs an Ipad. Also other ideas of things that a tablet can be used for in the coin business. Thanks
Rob

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    mdwoodsmdwoods Posts: 5,560 ✭✭✭
    I just sold my ipad air on ebay. I loved it but I just didn't use it that much. Especially after I got a 6" windows phone. However, if I were going to buy a tablet and use it I would certainly recommend the ipad. Easy to use, easy to update, lots of apps.
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    stealerstealer Posts: 4,044 ✭✭✭✭
    16gb is fine for the described purposes, you'll never run out. Refurbished directly from apple is a good idea. A lot of the times refurbished simply means someone returned the item after opening the box.
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    CoinZipCoinZip Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭
    I would and did go with a windows tablet....

    edited to add: it has a full size USB port and I can hook my microscope to it which is pretty nice at coin shows. In this photo the coins are inside the locked case.

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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,898 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Depends on everything you want to use it for. If all you're doing is accessing online or saved PDF content, either will work, as you are basically using it as a web browser. I also have a Windows tablet -- Surface Pro 2. I replaced my older desktop with it and now I have some thing that's lightweight for travel and connected to an external monitor, mouse, keyboard, external hard drive (fast via USB 3.0), printer, scanner, camera or two, and the occasional thumb drive. Runs full Windows 8.1, which means I can tether my camera and run Photoshop anywhere. It's meant to be an ultrabook laptop replacement that can be used as a tablet.
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    WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 7,095 ✭✭✭✭✭
    FWIW - Having no experience with the others all I can say is the iPad mini does everything for me. Its big enough , yet small enough I can actually stick it in baggy pants pockets and walk the bourse with everything at my finger tips. I can sit on the couch, bring up ebay and blow up any pictures so I can cherry pick away or share a photo detail with another collector. When asked why I have been so successful cherry picking...its the iPad. I can see what so many others can not.

    WS
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    WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 7,095 ✭✭✭✭✭
    double post-sorry

    WS
    Proud recipient of the coveted PCGS Forum "You Suck" Award Thursday July 19, 2007 11:33 PM and December 30th, 2011 at 8:50 PM.
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    RPM2RPM2 Posts: 91 ✭✭✭
    I have noticed that mac machines seem to have better monitor and graphics standard.

    Will my Dino camera work on the Ipad? I like the camera setup idea.

    I was told that most app's cost for the ipad. I know there are lots of free app's for my droid phone.

    Thanks for all the replies. Hoping for more.



    Rob
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    lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,875 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why don't you take a ride to the apple store?
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    3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭
    iPad all day and everyday for me...let them eat cake image

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    RPM2RPM2 Posts: 91 ✭✭✭
    I plan to go to the Apple store in a few days. I would rather here from people who are users and owners. The sales people at the Apple store will be trying to make a sale. I want to go with some knowledge of what I am needing the machine to do. That is why I am asking for ways that you guys are using tablets. Especially using them with the coin business.
    Rob
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    bronzematbronzemat Posts: 2,707 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like android tablets. They are affordable, alot to choose from, lots of free software and if you happen to use alot of google accounts or programs like the web browser chrome, its nice to have it all connected together like bookmarks and such.

    Im a hardcore apple user. My computer is a mac, I have an iphone and have used ipads. But Android impressed me and it gets better with each software update. Would definitely get a new google tablet when the time comes.
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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,783 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I just sold my ipad air on ebay. I loved it but I just didn't use it that much. Especially after I got a 6" windows phone. However, if I were going to buy a tablet and use it I would certainly recommend the ipad. Easy to use, easy to update, lots of apps. >>



    We have 2 iPad and one is never used (I need to sell it sometime) and the other is only seldom used by my 12yo son.
    I use a windows surface Pro and prefer it. Some prefer the iPad.

    I find that with the Windows Surface Pro, I not only can do what you mention but anything that I would normally do on my PC as well (I keep my spreadsheet of coins, pictures, etc.... everything that I want, on it and it is light enough and big enough screen to be useful).

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

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    We have 5 Android Tablets. I prefer them. You can use Polaris office to run all your MS office programs for free. I use the tablets as a controller for my Canon T3i when taking pic off of a tripod especially macro and night shots. Free music, lots of free apps. My 13.3in tablet has an HDMI in/out, USB, OTG port and sd card slot so memory is never an issue and I can us different sd cards depending on what I am doing. I can toggle my tablet to my phone so I have no need to buy a connected tablet if free wifi is not available I have it setup to have a wireless keyboard with a built in touch pad mouse so operates just like a chromebook/pc.
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    I forgot to say that new Samsung tablet is amazing but too expensive right now. It has a screen that is 2X the reseloution of a HD TV and is expandable unlike an Ipad.
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    CoinZipCoinZip Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I have noticed that mac machines seem to have better monitor and graphics standard.

    Will my Dino camera work on the Ipad? I like the camera setup idea.

    I was told that most app's cost for the ipad. I know there are lots of free app's for my droid phone.

    Thanks for all the replies. Hoping for more. >>



    Dino-Lite will only work on

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    Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8,

    DinoXcope (Mac OS)
    Mac OS 10.5 (Leopard), Mac OS 10.6 (Snow Leop), Mac OS 10.7 (Lion), Mac OS 10.8 (Mtn Lion)


    edited to add: I do not own an ipad so correct me if I'm wrong, but I think they have a different operating system than MAC laptop and desk tops.



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    RPM2RPM2 Posts: 91 ✭✭✭
    Which Samsung are you using? What is the new Samsung you are speaking of?
    Rob
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    Here is a link it is the new TabS

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    The thing with the Samsung Android tablets is that you can have 2 windows open at one time such as looking at coin facts and watching an auction at the same time.
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    valente151valente151 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭
    I am an apple weenie: apple laptop, desktop, iphone, and iPad. My ipad is super useful at shows. I use it for several functions: savings greysheets pdfs and viewing them at shows, coinfacts and auction listings, and I use Bento, which is a simple to use database app for iOS that can be used to catalog your collection and be able to view it anywhere. I also really like that my greysheets and other coin-related pdfs can be accessed straight on my phone thanks to iCloud, but as you are a current android user, this benefit wouldn't apply.

    Edit to add: regarding the coinfacts app, I still prefer to access coinfacts in the web browser on the tablet, and switch from the mobile to the "Full" site, because it has more comprehensive auction coverage and is more helpful. I also like being able to see the current coinfacts census coins that show easier on the full site.
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    You can access any documents you have saved in a cloud based system on an Android tablet like google docs, also you can upgrade to 128mb of memory on the new samsung. If you do have an Itunes account you can also now use that on an android tablet with some different apps. Edit to add : you can also run your amazon account if you have one and while we are at it for those of you who have wanted to run android apps and games on your windows laptop,pc,or tablet you can download bluestacks which is an android emulator. If you want a really big tablet you can get my main windows pc which is a 27inch Lenovo windows 8.1 all in one that has about 4 hrs of batery life, not bad for being as big as it is.
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    DavideoDavideo Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I have noticed that mac machines seem to have better monitor and graphics standard.

    Will my Dino camera work on the Ipad? I like the camera setup idea.

    I was told that most app's cost for the ipad. I know there are lots of free app's for my droid phone.

    Thanks for all the replies. Hoping for more. >>



    No, you cannot hook up "normal" peripherals like cameras to an iPad.

    I don't believe there is a noteworthy difference in the costs of apps.

    My opinion is that if price isn't one of the main factors and you want to do mostly basic things, go for an iPad (I would vote Apple refurbished). If you want to save a few dollars or want to do certain specific/custom things, go for an Android tablet. I would only go with Windows if you have very specific use cases (like hooking a particular model USB microscope).
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    They are both great tablets for general use, if you want flexibility to hook up items then go android. Both can print wirelessly and is easy with most newer printers being wireless. The main reason I use Android tablets is that I also have a Samsung Galaxy Note # which is a small tablet with a phone built in.
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    This statement is not correct "No, you cannot hook up "normal" peripherals like cameras to an iPad." You can hook items to your ipad such as DSLR using an OTG (On The Go) cable that changes the ipad port to a usb in adapter. You can also use some items wireless with bluetooth or wifi.
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    MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,618 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I use an iPad and I love it.

    But I suspect both an iPad and a Droid would work well enough for what you want. It really comes down to style nuances and personal preference. I suggest you look on You Tube for some videos about each and then go to a store that has both so you can try each and compare for yourself.
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    DavideoDavideo Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>This statement is not correct "No, you cannot hook up "normal" peripherals like cameras to an iPad." You can hook items to your ipad such as DSLR using an OTG (On The Go) cable that changes the ipad port to a usb in adapter. You can also use some items wireless with bluetooth or wifi. >>



    My statement is correct with clarification. With appropriate connectors/adapters certain models of particular classes of items like keyboards, hard drives, or cameras can be be connected. However, their usage is typically restricted to very specific use cases. If you have jailbroken your device then it opens up the types of things you can do. However, making uncaveated statements regarding USB connectivity on an iPad is a sure fire way to get dissapointed users.
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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,783 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>This statement is not correct "No, you cannot hook up "normal" peripherals like cameras to an iPad." You can hook items to your ipad such as DSLR using an OTG (On The Go) cable that changes the ipad port to a usb in adapter. You can also use some items wireless with bluetooth or wifi. >>



    My statement is correct with clarification. With appropriate connectors/adapters certain models of particular classes of items like keyboards, hard drives, or cameras can be be connected. However, their usage is typically restricted to very specific use cases. If you have jailbroken your device then it opens up the types of things you can do. However, making uncaveated statements regarding USB connectivity on an iPad is a sure fire way to get dissapointed users. >>





    Completely agree. Apple made the ipad ecosystem limited ON PURPOSE. You may be able to get around things, but not the user who doesn't know or hasn't used it, or hasn't got a friend to do it for him/her. And, once they do it, there are potential support issues/questions/etc. The ipad wasn't designed for questions or doing more than simple things.

    To encourage a novice to use one because it can do everything they are used to with a PC (perhaps) is a misdeed indeed. I've had to go over this, in person, with family and friends. There are some people that the ipad is perfect for. And, there are many others that here it is good and simple and then find they can't do "simple" things they are used to doing. Their printer they already own may not work (or work easily). External drives (backups, etc) may not be able to easily be connectable.

    Heck....to do anything with apple you need to pay one way or another (apps, hardware, etc); for things you took for granted (USB ports, etc).

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

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    Here is the link to the adapter for the ipad and iphone that lets you hook up usb based devices.link to ON THE GO CABLE

    Check out how it is used and if it will work for your application. You do not need to jail break your device for this to work. If you buy a wifi camera you can also get functionality that way but will have to check with each model for comparability. The adapter is inexpensive and you can always buy it and try it out on some other persons ipad first.
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    RPM2RPM2 Posts: 91 ✭✭✭
    Thanks for all the input. I think I will go to Best Buy this weekend so I can check them all side by side. After the last few post. I think i am leaning toward a Droid. We will see this weekend.
    Rob
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    Check out the Asus droid pad. Best Buy just wants to sell you something and it will cost you $200 for them to show you how to use it. Just go to youtube and you can find bout all you want to learn how to do most anything.
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    If you have an Android smart phone you already know how to use an Android tablet. Asus makes nice stuff but at the moment the new Samsung TabS is tops.. The Tab Pro with the Wacom screen that has a stylus is very good also.
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    ebaytraderebaytrader Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭
    A plus for better Android platforms such as the Nexus tablets is that you can download and use a variation of Open Office for document control. You aren't limited to using docs in the cloud thru Google Drive. Another plus for Android are the USB port, and on many, a HD out port to play video on a big screen. One minor drawback to droid is the inability to play Flash video in the Chrome browser. That needs to be done in an app like Youtube. That can be inconvenient if you are on a Southwest flight and would like to watch their free Dish TV. You can't do that with any Android above 4.0.

    Just because no one asked, let me throw the Microsoft tablets into the mix. The Surface RT is emulated on the ARM chip architecture and runs beautifully. It's Windows 8.1 that includes MS Office and the MS App Store is well stocked. The drawback to RT is that you can not install / run additional MS-based executables outside of what's in the App Store. However, the Surface Pro is a fully operational Windows 8.1 set-up. The build quality is exceptional, and is better than anything else I've looked at - Android or Apple.

    For the money, I vote an upper-end Android tablet. image
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    RPM2RPM2 Posts: 91 ✭✭✭
    I will check the you tube video. Would you get a tablet with cellular setup or just use my phone for hotspot. I use US Cellular for cell phone not as fast as Version. But decent speed. Input please.
    Thanks
    Rob
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    RPM2RPM2 Posts: 91 ✭✭✭
    I would like to say I'm the proud owner of a Tab S Tablet. It wasn't without a learning experience. Went Saturday night and bought a Tab 4. Got it home and played with it and just didn't like the graphics and or screen. So I went back today and stepped up and bought the Tab S. Much better machine. I would like to thank everyone for the input. I tried the iPad today. Have to say I feel more comfortable on a Droid. It will also sync with my phone.

    I think I did pretty good on price. Tab S 10.5 32GB with bronze finish cost $479.00.

    Next step is to load coin stuff. I seen a guy that had the world coin catalog loaded and could search it very effective. How or where do I get this.
    Thanks again!!!!
    Rob
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    DavideoDavideo Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭✭
    Congrats on the purchase! It sounds like it was well thought out.
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    SmEagle1795SmEagle1795 Posts: 2,209 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Just because no one asked, let me throw the Microsoft tablets into the mix. The Surface RT is emulated on the ARM chip architecture and runs beautifully. It's Windows 8.1 that includes MS Office and the MS App Store is well stocked. The drawback to RT is that you can not install / run additional MS-based executables outside of what's in the App Store. However, the Surface Pro is a fully operational Windows 8.1 set-up. The build quality is exceptional, and is better than anything else I've looked at - Android or Apple.
    >>



    I'll second the Surface line up. Windows RT is sufficient for most things, and the built-in Office is quite helpful, especially when on the road. The "Type" cover is better than the "Touch" cover (deeper key recesses and more feedback). I'll soon be purchasing a Surface Pro 3 to upgrade from my Surface RT and replace my Macbook as well as my iPad. It's a fantastic device, convenient on planes or at a desk.
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    OldIndianNutKaseOldIndianNutKase Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I would like to say I'm the proud owner of a Tab S Tablet. It wasn't without a learning experience. Went Saturday night and bought a Tab 4. Got it home and played with it and just didn't like the graphics and or screen. So I went back today and stepped up and bought the Tab S. Much better machine. I would like to thank everyone for the input. I tried the iPad today. Have to say I feel more comfortable on a Droid. It will also sync with my phone.

    I think I did pretty good on price. Tab S 10.5 32GB with bronze finish cost $479.00.

    Next step is to load coin stuff. I seen a guy that had the world coin catalog loaded and could search it very effective. How or where do I get this.
    Thanks again!!!! >>



    As a multi year iPad user, I will tell you that you made the right decision. I bought the first iPad with a Retina display to view my photographs. It is spectacular for that.

    But the file system on an iPad is a PIA. Transfer your PC files through the iTune store ??? Not for me. I found a app that allows me to transfer files directly, but there is no direct access to the file system on an iPad. And if this is intentional on the part of Apple, then the iPad (is) For Dummies.

    OINK
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    RPM2RPM2 Posts: 91 ✭✭✭
    Now it's time to go to YouTube to watch videos.
    Rob
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    Let me know how you like the new TabS that thing has a great screen. You can use Polaris office to open and use your Microsoft office files, it is already on the tablet. You can also use the tablet as a remote for your cable box, tv, dvd etc. you can put all your coin info into excell and use that to keep track of things.

    Here is a link that tells you step by step how to get adobe flash to work for android: link to install flash on android
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    OINK said he was having problems with file transfers from pc to ipad well Polaris office is now on itunes as well and gives you usability of MS office files on your ipad.
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    RPM2RPM2 Posts: 91 ✭✭✭
    just downloaded flash player!!

    Thanks

    I have a couple of copies of the Cheerypickers guide. I am thinking about cutting the binding so I can scan the pages to save as a pdf. Then save the pdf on my tab. Is this going the long way about this??
    Rob
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    RPM2RPM2 Posts: 91 ✭✭✭
    Rob
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    If you have OCR software for your scanner you can scan it to word or excel to organize it. Not sure as I have not done so yet.

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