Reference Images of Bar Copper's to compare real from counterfeits

coinsarefun · August 18, 2014 4:01PM

I have been wanting to put together a few images to compare the real Bar Copper, Bolen Copy and a few known counterfeits.
After yesterdays post by jonathanb I decided (thanks to his link) to post some obverse and reverse images for reference.

For the sake of argument I marked on the images "my counterfeit" but it is the one in the Ebay linked from This thread. only because they are one in the same but my image stinks so bad it makes it look different

Once mine is imaged correctly I will change it.

Anyways I hope this helps out the ones that get confused.......they can always use this thread for reference.

PS......If I had a paid account I could have uploaded a bit larger images.
P.S.S...thease are struck counterfeit . As I find more and/or cast ones I will post them.

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Mike from NER has a great explanation to tell the difference between the real, Bolen and counterfeit Here

The easiest way to quickly tell a Bolen restrike from any other, including the original is to look at the letter A in USA on the obverse.
On a Bolen die, the A clearly passes underneath the S. On original pieces and on the basturd die examples the A passes over the S.

Also, another visual giveaway is the off center strike of Bolen restrikes. On all Bolen pieces, the coin is struck off center to the right and the
denticles are not visible at all on the right obverse field. If you see denticles on the right side of your coin, you most likely do not have a Bolen restrike.
We say most likely because it is possible that a Bolen was made not struck off center.

If you are confused if your Bar Cent is an original genuine example or a Basturd Die restrike, the answer will lie on the reverse.
In the center of the reverse of a genuine example a small die break is visible between the bars. Also, on the second bar from the bottom,
there is a small die chip extending from the end of the bar. These features are found on every single genuine example and not on the basturd die restrikes.
I have seen very low-grade genuine examples that clearly show these die breaks.

Broadstruck · August 18, 2014 7:00PM

Great Post

ambro51 · August 18, 2014 8:31PM

The original pieces are all very underweight, a bit over 70 grains if I recall.

LotsoLuck · August 19, 2014 12:04AM

Cool. Thanks for posting this Stef.

LindeDad · August 19, 2014 12:39AM

Do all real ones have the flattening of the central bar and is that a marker?

coinsarefun · August 19, 2014 1:23AM

<< <i>Do all real ones have the flattening of the central bar and is that a marker? >>

The best way to tell the difference is the second bar from the bottom,
is a small die chip extending from the end of the bar.

Reference Images of Bar Copper's to compare real from counterfeits

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