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1878-S Morgan (PCGS) - GTG (Grade Revealed)

KyleKyle Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭✭✭
Nothing too fancy, just a 78-S Morgan.

Guess the grade (Grade posted on second page).

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    MS62
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    PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 6,110 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree with MS62, but it could be a MS63
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    JJSingletonJJSingleton Posts: 1,402 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS63

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    StuartStuart Posts: 9,831 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS-63 -- I would have said MS-64 if not for the reed marks on Liberty's neck, which caused me to downgrade it to MS-63.

    However, it's a nice lustrous coin.

    Stuart

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    BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,933 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS63
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    I think it went 64
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    KyleKyle Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I will post the grade tomorrow, around 5pm EST.
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    DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,040 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS63
    When in doubt, don't.
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    KoveKove Posts: 2,041 ✭✭✭✭
    MS 63
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    remumcremumc Posts: 1,284 ✭✭✭
    MS63 Also
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    MilkmanDanMilkmanDan Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS63
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    KyleKyle Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Any more guesses, before I post the grade?
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    DRUNNERDRUNNER Posts: 3,945 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS64 . . . .

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    lkrarecoinslkrarecoins Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭
    MS63 because of the obverse neck hit
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    DRUNNERDRUNNER Posts: 3,945 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Let me explain my grade . .

    A normal amount of very light chatter in the obverse fields, precluding a higher grade but certainly not indicative of heavy marks (look at the reed mark for example on the neck!!!). A puffy cheek (ok, subjective, but certainly not a cheek that has taken a lot of abuse, and THIS is the area I have found to be the 'money' focal point of Morgans).

    A '65' reverse. No, I didn't say a phenomenal reverse, but nothing there that would preclude a 65. No hits on the breast, no excessive chatter, and a decent to good strike (heck, it is an 1878, how many hubs had they gine through ??). Sure, the obverse is the key side. But the reverse does nothing to lower it.

    Grading from photos -- well, OK, tough. Luster ???

    But this should be a 64. One hit, and not in the prime fiocal area. A bad hit, but well -- let's see . . .

    Drunner

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    << <i>Let me explain my grade . .

    A normal amount of very light chatter in the obverse fields, precluding a higher grade but certainly not indicative of heavy marks (look at the reed mark for example on the neck!!!). A puffy cheek (ok, subjective, but certainly not a cheek that has taken a lot of abuse, and THIS is the area I have found to be the 'money' focal point of Morgans).

    A '65' reverse. No, I didn't say a phenomenal reverse, but nothing there that would preclude a 65. No hits on the breast, no excessive chatter, and a decent to good strike (heck, it is an 1878, how many hubs had they gine through ??). Sure, the obverse is the key side. But the reverse does nothing to lower it.

    Grading from photos -- well, OK, tough. Luster ???

    But this should be a 64. One hit, and not in the prime fiocal area. A bad hit, but well -- let's see . . .

    Drunner >>



    I agre with your determination but am going 64+ to 65
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    TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't know....

    If you were in the market for a 65 of this date, I have a feeling most would run from this coin due to the hit. They aren't rare, afterall. Even a 64 can be found without the distracting hit.

    So, I'll go with the 63 assessment. I think a 63 buyer might be happy to get the cleaner overall coin in exchange for the one big hit.


    Edited: Actually, I'm going to change to 62.....just because I can. image
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    jughead1893jughead1893 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭✭✭
    63
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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 32,456 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ms 63 with a shot at a 64. jmo
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    KyleKyle Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's interesting to see such a wide array of guesses.

    The coin is graded MS-62, and if it wasn't for the hit on the neck I think it would have made a 63. A couple people have asked; the coin does have average luster.

    Either way, it will make a great addition to the set I am putting together.

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    CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I agre with your determination but am going 64+ to 65 >>


    Even without the major reeding marks, the cheek is too rough for that range.
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    That is not a hit on the neck that is a pearl necklace.
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    TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>I agre with your determination but am going 64+ to 65 >>


    Even without the major reeding marks, the cheek is too rough for that range. >>



    Interesting contrast in pictures.

    The original made the cheek look OK, and the field in front look pretty marked up.

    The slab picture makes the cheek look pretty bad, and the field look OK.
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    CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>I agre with your determination but am going 64+ to 65 >>


    Even without the major reeding marks, the cheek is too rough for that range. >>



    Interesting contrast in pictures.

    The original made the cheek look OK, and the field in front look pretty marked up.

    The slab picture makes the cheek look pretty bad, and the field look OK. >>


    To my eye, the cheek looks rough in both obverse photos.
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    TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>To my eye, the cheek looks rough in both obverse photos. >>



    Well....my term "OK" was intentionally nebulous, and not found in any grading guide. image

    I think the two pictures are interesting to compare and contrast, whatever the case.


    Added: BTW, I really like the coin for the strike. Whenever you can get fully defined hair over the ear, a Morgan just looks better....
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    << <i>I agre with your determination but am going 64+ to 65 >>


    Even without the major reeding marks, the cheek is too rough for that range. >>



    Interesting contrast in pictures.

    The original made the cheek look OK, and the field in front look pretty marked up.

    The slab picture makes the cheek look pretty bad, and the field look OK. >>



    Wholly snot buckets man that first pic is way nicer looking if I had seen the new one I would have went 62 as that cheek and eye brow are beat up like she was just in an octagon cage match. What makeup did she use in the first pic?image
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    KyleKyle Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Wholly snot buckets man that first pic is way nicer looking if I had seen the new one I would have went 62 as that cheek and eye brow are beat up like she was just in an octagon cage match. What makeup did she use in the first pic >>


    Only thing edited in the close up picture was brightness, contrast, and a touch of colour correction. Other than that; nothing.

    You can still see the all the marks in the original images.

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    when you added to the contrast and brightness it made the rub and darker spots go away thus reducing the look of those items. I was just being a bit expressive not trying to be mean as it is a nice coin and the neck hit does look like a necklace in a way.
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    crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623
    Easily apparent in the first photo that it is a Classic 62 no sticker, not sure what some (most) of you were looking at. Anybody who has handled any quanty of raw dollars should be able to spot a commercial UNC a mile away. Might have even 58/61 before its bath.
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    DRUNNERDRUNNER Posts: 3,945 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I stand corrected . . . . . .

    Drunner

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