Centsles selling NGC PF68 Classic Coins? Since when

SAM5969 · July 15, 2014 11:04AM

Centsles selling an NGC-PF68 BQ may be rare than the coin itself ..NGC Proof 68 1897 BQ

Although that coin hardly looks better than a 64 from that awful scan .. if he is going to sell 5 figure coins he really may want to improve/upgrade the imaging from scanning

brg5658 · July 15, 2014 11:09AM

The guy doesn't seem to have any problems selling his own home-slabbed coins for WAY out of line prices, I can't imagine he would have a problem selling something certified by NGC or PCGS.

Of his current 454 auctions, 40 are PCGS graded and 78 are NGC graded. That's about par for his inventory/auctions (plus or minus).

I have never figured out why he has such a religious following...though, I have to admit, I did purchase one scarce token from him in the past few years (graded by NGC), and I was VERY happy with the quality.

I wouldn't touch anything he sells outside of his NGC, PCGS, and ICCS material.

YMMV

coinbuf · July 15, 2014 12:52PM

Has it ever been confirmed that he is NNC?

DennisH · July 15, 2014 12:59PM

Based on those photos I am compelled to ask two questions:
– Is that a proof?
– is that a 68?

STONE · July 15, 2014 1:02PM

<< Based on those photos I am compelled to ask two questions:
– Is that a proof?
– is that a 68? >>

He doesn't win awards for photography - that's for sure!

Tookybandit · July 15, 2014 1:04PM

I steer clear of those funky no name slabs, but some of my all time favorite coins have been purchased from Centsles! Many avoid his listings because of those junk slabs, but I have found some great deals on PCGS/NGC coins he has put up on eBay.

I later got these both Wing'ified, but I do not have an updated pic of the 50c yet.

LogPotato · July 15, 2014 1:10PM

I thought the funniest part was the description:

"WORTH UP TO $20,000 IN PCGS AND $10-$15,000 IN NGC"

What a great business model. You're stretching with crappy photo's and an auction (even though it's probably "protected") but then you specifically tell your bidders to pay less for it.

lostincoins · July 15, 2014 2:19PM

I am with Dennis. You cant tell that is a proof.

Broadstruck · July 15, 2014 2:59PM

<< I am with Dennis. You cant tell that is a proof. >>

You can tell it's a proof from the images and that's it's also quite fingerprinted.

GoldenEyeNumismatics · July 15, 2014 3:33PM

<< 

What a great business model. >>

It works pretty well for him.

3keepSECRETif2rDEAD · July 15, 2014 3:43PM

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What a great business model. >>

It works pretty well for him. >>

...kinda like it worked for Al Capone also...isn't Florida great

Erik

stealer · July 15, 2014 5:36PM

<< 

<< I am with Dennis. You cant tell that is a proof. >>

You can tell it's a proof from the images and that's it's also quite fingerprinted. >>

You must have microscope vision. I can't see a single fingerprint on that coin.

desslok · July 15, 2014 5:38PM

I purchased a very nice NNC "certified" world error coin from Centsles on eBay for $71.50. eBay item 310952729507 if someone's interested.

I'm aware of his reputation and I wouldn't ever but a U.S. NNC slabbed coin, but for world errors the specific numeric MS-whatever designation is irrelevant, the coin itself (in hand) is great and the price is fair. The auction was started at 0.99$, no reserve. What more could you ask for.

When I got the coin, I considered keeping it in the slab, simply because it's an OK protection. But then I thought about it and didn't want anyone that ever saw the coin to think that I've been unknowingly ripped off, so I busted it out (my first crack out ever! yay!) and housed it in 2x2 cardboard/mylar holder...

7Jaguars · July 15, 2014 10:39PM

Not the place for testimonials, but I confess to checking his listings on occasion and got a very rare Panama pattern in gold for barely over bullion - it was encapsulated by NNC as a "68" & hosts properly slabbed it as "64" but still a good purchase. Sure is plenty of junk with imaginative labels though...

LanceNewmanOCC · July 15, 2014 10:55PM

<< 

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<< 

What a great business model. >>

It works pretty well for him. >>

...kinda like it worked for Al Capone also...isn't Florida great

Erik >>

and the hedge investors that flipped the real estate marketplace on its head. sure it all looks good till it is time to pay the piper.

another one is:

ebay works well for counterfeit sellers.

whether something works or not is hardly a basis for defense, imo.

but it is cool to make money and screw people over in some circles, oh wait, a lot of circles. welcome to earth.

but people that spend their money have accountability too. if people wouldn't buy his products, he wouldn't be selling them. vicious circular logic.

edited 4 gramma.
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liefgold · July 15, 2014 11:26PM

I sold him a rare gold dollar in a net graded "altered surfaces EF Details" slab. Saw it a week later in one of the NNC holders as no problem AU55. Not sure if it ever sold.

Centsles selling NGC PF68 Classic Coins? Since when

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