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bestdaybestday Posts: 4,271 ✭✭✭✭
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Great collections has 4 1964 Accented Hair DCAMS in this week's auction . they have the milk spots .... do the spots on these dcams subtract from the listed grade on holders ?

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  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,099 ✭✭✭
    Depends on whether or not the spots were there when they were graded. They could have already been accounted for if they were there when they crossed through the grading room.

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  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭
    Depends on whether or not the spots were there when they were graded.

    ...yes, it's too bad a photo isn't provided from the TPG's of the coin when slabbed. this would be helpful in taking the guess work out of the wondering...image
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  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,277 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Great collections has 4 1964 Accented Hair DCAMS in this week's auction . they have the milk spots .... do the spots on these dcams subtract from the listed grade on holders ? >>



    No, unlike SAEs which develop milk spots in the holder, milk spots on 64 Kennedy proofs developed when the coins were in the Mint mylar. Thus, they have already been reflected in the grade.

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  • DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    Those white spots plague these coins. Rick Tomaska commented on these in his book on cameo coins of this period. Perhaps he'll comment here. As I recall, he believed the spots were a consequence soap residue left on the planchet. Many will not come off, and are etched in the surface of the coin.
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  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 18,459 ✭✭✭✭✭
    More and more we hear of these dreaded "spots". These can send shivers to a collector. esp. If one had just spend a ton on his coin. but when you really think of it, at least it's not the destroyer of all/any coins. The horror of "The Scratch"!!! Sounds like a movie or book title.image

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  • bestdaybestday Posts: 4,271 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>More and more we hear of these dreaded "spots". These can send shivers to a collector. esp. If one had just spend a ton on his coin. but when you really think of it, at least it's not the destroyer of all/any coins. The horror of "The Scratch"!!! Sounds like a movie or book title.image >>



    1964 Kennedy Accented Hair PCGS67 DCAM goes for $3500 in trends,,....a PCGS 68 DCAM is $15,000 in trends ,,,which makes me nervous to bid
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,497 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Depends on whether or not the spots were there when they were graded.

    ...yes, it's too bad a photo isn't provided from the TPG's of the coin when slabbed. this would be helpful in taking the guess work out of the wondering...image >>

    CU is a publically traded stock and they will not do ANYTHING that is going to cost them money which would affect stock prices UNLESS "not doing so" affects those stock prices.

    While your suggestion is really good it also does not address the "when" of when these coins were graded. As such, it falls into the "what if" or "if only" category of wishes.

    From what I've seen, these spots do not "develop" after slabbing like the Silver Eagles but developed during long term storage as proof sets. They plague the Accented Hair coins and are impossible to remove.
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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,497 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>More and more we hear of these dreaded "spots". These can send shivers to a collector. esp. If one had just spend a ton on his coin. but when you really think of it, at least it's not the destroyer of all/any coins. The horror of "The Scratch"!!! Sounds like a movie or book title.image >>



    1964 Kennedy Accented Hair PCGS67 DCAM goes for $3500 in trends,,....a PCGS 68 DCAM is $15,000 in trends ,,,which makes me nervous to bid >>

    That 67DCAM is fine. I see no milk spots on the coin at all. If I had the money, I'd be in there swinging away.

    The 66, and 64 on the other hand, I'd probably stay away from. The 65 might be ok since the spots are really small.
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  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,875 ✭✭✭✭✭
    when selling, the spots get bigger

    I don't like spots
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  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Finding, in the wild, a 1964 AH Proof half dollar without the dreaded milk spots or other flaws that reduce the grade to below 65 is a rare event for collectors who like to search raw proof sets and singles for cherries.

    When fortune smiles on you and you actually find such a gem half dollar you get a big boost as a collector, especially if the half dollar has frosted devices and a CAM look. Buying the cherry for modest money give even a bigger boost.

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