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RYKRYK Posts: 35,801 ✭✭✭✭✭
We live in a world of Internet forums dedicated to the discussion of every imaginable topic (and even some unimaginable image ). Even if PCGS and NGC shut down their forums, other coin forums (like the AA CoinTalk forum) would expand, and new ones would pop up. It's just the way of the world.

If there is misleading or unworthy discussion occurring on a message board, of any kind, the way to improve the situation is to right the wrong by participating. Bad information is propagated as gospel all over the internet in forums. I was shocked to see what fallacies were being disseminated on a forum for patients with thyroid cancer. You think that coin information can be dangerous, what about misleading information about cancer? Which will kill you first? Nonetheless, suppressing forum conversation is not the solution.

I respect Laura's viewpoint but have to disagree with her on this point. The forum horse is out of the barn. Pandora's Box has been opened. The cat is out of the bag. I am out of pithy expressions. image

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    KudbegudKudbegud Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Never mind. I answered my own question.

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    LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,682 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The cat is out of the bag. I am out of pithy expressions.

    Does that pith you off?? image
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
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    DaveWcoinsDaveWcoins Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭


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    If there is misleading or unworthy discussion occurring on a message board, of any kind, the way to improve the situation is to right the wrong by participating. Bad information is propagated as gospel all over the internet in forums. I was shocked to see what fallacies were being disseminated on a forum for patients with thyroid cancer. You think that coin information can be dangerous, what about misleading information about cancer? Which will kill you first?


    Nonetheless, suppressing forum conversation is not the solution.
    >>



    +1
    Dave Wnuck. Redbook contributor; long time PNG Member; listed on the PCGS Board of Experts. PM me with your email address to receive my e-newsletter, and visit DaveWcoins.com Find me on eBay at davewcoins
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    TahoeDaleTahoeDale Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭
    This forum should be here a long time, but changes are in order. Most of the advanced collectors and knowledgeable numismatists do not post, reply, and just stay away.
    Only occasionally do we see a learned topic, that does not get sidetracked.

    The most prevalent discussion today may help posters stick to coins,and hopefully PCGS change the rules, and clean up this mess.
    TahoeDale
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    RYKRYK Posts: 35,801 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The cat is out of the bag. I am out of pithy expressions.

    Does that pith you off?? image >>


    Elvis has left the building. image
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    braddickbraddick Posts: 25,150 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It was somewhat difficult to get past her line within the article where she states a voluntary leave from all coin forums.

    I'd think the moment you remove yourself is the moment you lose your right to then ridicule it
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    DaveGDaveG Posts: 3,535
    Also, I suggest that being thin-skinned is a serious liability when one communicates in public, whether it be on a Forum like this or on one's own website, whether one is a collector, an operator of a business or identified as being an investor in a business. One should know that one's words live forever on the Internet and one never knows who one will offend or what business relationships will be harmed.

    In addition, despite the casual way in which many of us communicate now, it can only help one's reputation to use spellcheck and to make sure one communicates in as grammatically correct a way as is appropriate for the conversation.

    No one will be able to hear one's message if all anyone can hear is mockery of the incorrect use of the English language.

    Check out the Southern Gold Society

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    19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭
    If PCGS would actually administer to their forums then things might be different.

    I do believe that coin forums offer a lot of valuable information to folks who are looking for answers.
    I also believe that a lot of misinformation gets disseminated on coin forums but usually, that misinformation gets corrected. Either through knowledge from others or through direct experience.

    Things change. Information changes.

    I like the thoughts about folks identifying who they are but I also know that this would be impossible to enforce. You see, the more that we participate, the better off we are for determining who we listen to and who we ignore.

    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
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    cladkingcladking Posts: 30,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Anyone who believes any post on this site is the final word is seriously deluded.

    The beauty of the site is on almost any question someone will come up with a pertinent and reasonably accurate response. It's our job to find it.
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
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    TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm sure more than a few people here remember RCC....(rec.coincollecting....or something like that). It was a precurser to all of the corporate sponsored message boards, with absolutely no monitoring. Compared to that, this place is quite well behaved! At least the worst behavior is weeded out.

    And, I have no doubt from my experience with hockey message boards that someone could easily start another board if restrictions here and elsewhere get to be too much.

    So, yes....message boards are here to stay. They ARE useful, and ARE in demand. They are also fairly good at self policing, whether you believe it or not.
    Easily distracted Type Collector
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    ArizonaJackArizonaJack Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭
    Respectably, you forgot can of worms image
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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,206 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Anything you read on the internet has to be true, doesn't it?image
    All glory is fleeting.
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    TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Anything you read on the internet has to be true, doesn't it?image >>



    I'd agree with you....except that you wrote it on the internet, and I don't know your real name....

    image
    Easily distracted Type Collector
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    MGLICKERMGLICKER Posts: 7,995 ✭✭✭
    Regarding Laura, I respect the fact that as a non member of this forum, she can still generate 100 plus posts at the drop of a Blog, and start 3 or 4 more relating to her comments.

    She is certainly colorful and that is a positive to an often otherwise dry hobby.

    Laura is also wrong about reigning in or ending the coin forums. Many have been saved from fake coins and dare I say overgraded coins by spending some time here.

    For a leading numismatist to try to throttle down a place of enlightenment (and of course sometimes delumination) is irresponsible.

    Sometimes, though as dealers, we end up on the bad side of an over graded coin sale and do the right thing, which is make it right with the buyer.
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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,723 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Perhaps if everyone with misinformation was shot.

    I'll hold the gun..... just tell me who needs to be shot.

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,206 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Anything you read on the internet has to be true, doesn't it?image >>



    I'd agree with you....except that you wrote it on the internet, and I don't know your real name....

    image >>




    Elfego Baca image
    All glory is fleeting.
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    MGLICKERMGLICKER Posts: 7,995 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Bad information is propagated as gospel all over the internet in forums. I was shocked to see what fallacies were being disseminated on a forum for patients with thyroid cancer >>



    Oncologists only site I presume.......no place for Groin Doctors.


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    NicNic Posts: 3,438 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Bad information is propagated as gospel all over the internet in forums. I was shocked to see what fallacies were being disseminated on a forum for patients with thyroid cancer >>



    Oncologists only site I presume.......no place for Groin Doctors. >>




    a forum for patients is what I read
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    NicNic Posts: 3,438 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>We live in a world of Internet forums dedicated to the discussion of every imaginable topic (and even some unimaginable image ). Even if PCGS and NGC shut down their forums, other coin forums (like the AA CoinTalk forum) would expand, and new ones would pop up. It's just the way of the world.

    If there is misleading or unworthy discussion occurring on a message board, of any kind, the way to improve the situation is to right the wrong by participating. Bad information is propagated as gospel all over the internet in forums. I was shocked to see what fallacies were being disseminated on a forum for patients with thyroid cancer. You think that coin information can be dangerous, what about misleading information about cancer? Which will kill you first? Nonetheless, suppressing forum conversation is not the solution.

    I respect Laura's viewpoint but have to disagree with her on this point. The forum horse is out of the barn. Pandora's Box has been opened. The cat is out of the bag. I am out of pithy expressions. image >>



    Agree
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    MGLICKERMGLICKER Posts: 7,995 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Bad information is propagated as gospel all over the internet in forums. I was shocked to see what fallacies were being disseminated on a forum for patients with thyroid cancer >>



    Oncologists only site I presume.......no place for Groin Doctors. >>




    a forum for patients is what I read >>




    No Goitering allowed then.
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    CircOnlyCircOnly Posts: 2,214 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The cat is out of the bag. I am out of pithy expressions.

    Does that pith you off?? image >>



    POTY

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    thisnamztakenthisnamztaken Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Perhaps if everyone with misinformation was shot.

    I'll hold the gun..... just tell me who needs to be shot. >>



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    I never thought that growing old would happen so fast.
    - Jim
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    thisnamztakenthisnamztaken Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i> The forum horse is out of the barn. Pandora's Box has been opened. The cat is out of the bag. I am out of pithy expressions. image >>



    Ummmm, how about those golden oldies, "The Genie's out of the bottle" or "The train has already left the station"? image
    I never thought that growing old would happen so fast.
    - Jim
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    FullStrikeFullStrike Posts: 4,353 ✭✭✭
    Don't p that woman off. Before you know it she will pack her Coins up early and go home. Then what will we do for quality
    non doctored beautiful Coins at a fair price.

    Mercy. image
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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,790 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>The cat is out of the bag. I am out of pithy expressions.

    Does that pith you off?? image >>


    Elvis has left the building. image >>


    And that's one egg you can't unscramble.
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    CoinspongeCoinsponge Posts: 3,927 ✭✭✭
    Bad information is propagated as gospel all over the internet in forums. I was shocked to see what fallacies were being disseminated on a forum for patients with thyroid cancer. You think that coin information can be dangerous, what about misleading information about cancer? Which will kill you first? Nonetheless, suppressing forum conversation is not the solution.


    Seems too many people are always trying to shut down speech they don't like. Why don't we also shut down much of broadcast news and newspapers because there is a lot of misinformation there too.





    Gold and silver are valuable but wisdom is priceless.
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    CalGoldCalGold Posts: 2,608 ✭✭


    << <i>This forum should be here a long time, but changes are in order. Most of the advanced collectors and knowledgeable numismatists do not post, reply, and just stay away. >>



    What changes do you propose to attract these people to the forum?

    How certain are you that advanced collectors and knowledgeable numismatists would participate here if the rules were changed?

    Most collectors are not advanced collectors and never will be. Would they no longer be welcome to post here?

    CG
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    CoinspongeCoinsponge Posts: 3,927 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>This forum should be here a long time, but changes are in order. Most of the advanced collectors and knowledgeable numismatists do not post, reply, and just stay away. >>



    What changes do you propose to attract these people to the forum?

    How certain are you that advanced collectors and knowledgeable numismatists would participate here if the rules were changed?

    Most collectors are not advanced collectors and never will be. Would they no longer be welcome to post here?

    CG >>




    Good questions. There are definitely advanced collectors here already. Those who do not post probably choose not to for reasons that no change would alter. And if there were some who would post after some change then that change would probably drive others away.
    Gold and silver are valuable but wisdom is priceless.

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