Reverse Silver Eagle Dropped Letter
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This 2006 reverse Silver Eagle proof from one of my 20th Anniversary 3 Eagle sets has a dropped letter on the right fold of the ribbon/E . PLURIBUS . UNUM.
Note that it depends on lighting to show that there exists one clear impression that looks like a '1' but there exists, actually enough of a second mark to the left of the '1' that in proper lighting could be interpreted (all marks together) as a 'B'. I will, of course, bow to the experts.
I'm confused by photo bucket for, when I pick up from the IMG box, it must also capture the 'URL'. Now, and here's where your patience becomes important, I'm happy to have criticism that helps me do anything right. I reduced the photos the first time as they look awfully big on the preview.
I've only posted once, many years back, and then, did it wrong, so I will apologize in advance if I, again, fail to do this wrong, again. My very first error was a 1969 S Lincoln I picked off a mall floor in 1971. I did not collect anything-except dust-but, for reason unknown I noticed right away the 'IN' of 'IN GOD WE TRUST' was completely missing. Of course, I looked around for it but, the mall WAS crowded. ;o). I didn't even learn there was a dedicated group of error collectors even then. I also found, on the same day I found this Eagle error(?), I also found a dropped 'O' from 'GOD' on the edge lettering of an Andrew Jackson dollar. Photos of Andy when I know I'm doing attachments correctly. I'll be on later today to read my first reviews (of the coin and this effort joining in).
Note that it depends on lighting to show that there exists one clear impression that looks like a '1' but there exists, actually enough of a second mark to the left of the '1' that in proper lighting could be interpreted (all marks together) as a 'B'. I will, of course, bow to the experts.
I'm confused by photo bucket for, when I pick up from the IMG box, it must also capture the 'URL'. Now, and here's where your patience becomes important, I'm happy to have criticism that helps me do anything right. I reduced the photos the first time as they look awfully big on the preview.
I've only posted once, many years back, and then, did it wrong, so I will apologize in advance if I, again, fail to do this wrong, again. My very first error was a 1969 S Lincoln I picked off a mall floor in 1971. I did not collect anything-except dust-but, for reason unknown I noticed right away the 'IN' of 'IN GOD WE TRUST' was completely missing. Of course, I looked around for it but, the mall WAS crowded. ;o). I didn't even learn there was a dedicated group of error collectors even then. I also found, on the same day I found this Eagle error(?), I also found a dropped 'O' from 'GOD' on the edge lettering of an Andrew Jackson dollar. Photos of Andy when I know I'm doing attachments correctly. I'll be on later today to read my first reviews (of the coin and this effort joining in).
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Also, copy and paste the IMG code not the URL code if you can.
bob
<< <i>Go back into Photobucket and edit your images so that they are larger. Probably 400 on a side ought to do it.
Also, copy and paste the IMG code not the URL code if you can.
bob
Yeah!
And "PREVIEW" the post before posting it so you'll see what we're about to see.
The name is LEE!
the first picture looks like a D but the second one does not.
Even if the second picture is ignored, the first one that looks like a D is too small for the "D" in "God" and it also looks like it has serifs on the top of the D which the "D" in "God" does not. There is not a "D" on the coin of that size. Similarly the "1" in 2014 is too large as are the rest of the letters and number on the coin.
It looks like damage in a coincidental shape.
Additionally, it is impossible to have a classic dropped letter from the edge lettering of a dollar coin.
The dies used to make edge lettering are raised letters. A classic dropped letter would come from an incuse letter filling with debris and that debris falling on the coin.
Since the edge lettering is raised there is nothing to fill, and thus a classic dropped letter is not possible.
To know exactly what it is will require pictures.
similarly, anything from "E Pluribus Unum" on the ASE would be made by a raised letter on the die and would not form a classic dropped letter because there is nothing on the die to fill.
<< <i>I don't think that is a dropped number error. >>
Neither do I.
The name is LEE!
Here are the photos of the Andrew Jackson dollar. As to the impossibility of such an occurrence I add this headline from 'Nusmismaster.com; "Dropped Letter Error on Polk $1". The body of the article says this is, "only the second example of a dropped letter on the edge of a Presidential dollar that has been sent in by Numismatic News readers since the inception of the Presidential dollar series in 2007." Again, I submit my photos.
"Keep your malarkey filter in good operating order" -Walter Breen
but from contact from another coin.
Dropped letters don't leave edge bumps on
the rim of the coin, as this piece shows.
The Proof ASE shown at the top of the thread
might be a 'dropped' -partia-l letter.......hard
to tell from the scans.......
I read the article and am wrong and right.
The dropped letter came from the striking of the coin and not the edge lettering. So, a dropped letter can form on the edge but a classic dropped letter will never come from the edge lettering because the letters on the die are raised to mash into the edge. There is nothing to fill on the edge lettering die, therefore no classic dropped letter can be made from edge lettering dies. As mentioned in the article a T in Trust or President in the die was filled and the filling dropped onto the collar. The filling then struck into the edge before edge lettering took place.
On proof coins, the collar has the edge lettering and the process would happen at the same time as edge lettering and coin striking.
For the ASE, there is no letter nor number of that size on the coin. It would be an even larger miracle for it to have come from a different coin.
The AJ $1, the first step is to find a letter of that size and shape that is incuse on the die and therefore raised on the coin.
For it to be a partial, again, look for a raised area on the coin of the same size and shape as the mystery indentation.
As mentioned, e pluribus unum is pushed into the coin with raised letters on the die. So it is impossible to fill the die and impossible to have a classic dropped letter from a raised letter in e pluribus unum on the die.