I see a .91 genuine as PCGS simply not wanting the coin in their holder. Not having a certain look that is popular with them, or not worth the liability of sticking the companies neck out or a low value 1917 Lincoln Cent. Like in the Olympics, a snubbed .91 from the Russian judge. The guys that called it questionable color and quip MS70 because its blue have no idea what if anything was used on the coin, they just have experience with what PCGS will typically grade color wise and your coin is unique.
Happens to us all I'm sure. Start studying every Lincoln you can in PCGS plastic before you send more in to them. Figure out what they like before you take another shot. That goes for all series I'd say but especially copper.
I like your coin, and I'm sure many others do too, it's a shame no one will be tripping over each other to own it because its not certified.
I tend to think this superb matte example will grade as a pf66brn. These proofs have a look to them and were made in a specific process a lot of them have unusual color variants. Maybe blue ribbon was involved I tend to think it will grade though. What ever the landed grade its a heck of a coin.
<< <i>I tend to think this superb matte example will grade as a pf66brn. These proofs have a look to them and were made in a specific process a lot of them have unusual color variants. Maybe blue ribbon was involved I tend to think it will grade though. What ever the landed grade its a heck of a coin. >>
<< <i>I tend to think this superb matte example will grade as a pf66brn. These proofs have a look to them and were made in a specific process a lot of them have unusual color variants. Maybe blue ribbon was involved I tend to think it will grade though. What ever the landed grade its a heck of a coin. >>
If the coin was a 1917 PF I would be just fine with any genuine holder
Try it ATS or give the Santa Ana boys another crack. Bottom line is that they don't always get the "naturalness" right; same with grading, but every crack-out pro knows that.
About 10 years ago I submitted to PCGS an 1837 N13 LC which hailed from Naftzger (EAC Sale 1990), through Tom Reynolds to me. Noyes plated this coin in his book, and to my knowledge it is still CC#1 for the variety. Naftzger bought the coin in 1964 from Joe Flynn, and noted on the Kraft 2x2 in his trademark green ink; unc. / sea green/olive, perfect surfaces. The large cent was as fully struck as you could expect for an N13, and had but one dull tick in Liberty's hair; otherwise, perfect.
I expected no less that MS66RB, but the geniuses claimed it was artificially enhanced. LOL
I'll guarantee you had she arrived with several hundred other LCs of Naftzger provenance it would have been graded at least 66RB, but then I have grown somewhat cynical through the years; who hasn't, eh?
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Happens to us all I'm sure. Start studying every Lincoln you can in PCGS plastic before you send more in to them. Figure out what they like before you take another shot. That goes for all series I'd say but especially copper.
I like your coin, and I'm sure many others do too, it's a shame no one will be tripping over each other to own it because its not certified.
Eric
Maybe blue ribbon was involved I tend to think it will grade though. What ever the landed grade its a heck of a coin.
<< <i>I tend to think this superb matte example will grade as a pf66brn. These proofs have a look to them and were made in a specific process a lot of them have unusual color variants.
Maybe blue ribbon was involved I tend to think it will grade though. What ever the landed grade its a heck of a coin. >>
It was graded 91/questionable color.
Eric
<< <i>I tend to think this superb matte example will grade as a pf66brn. These proofs have a look to them and were made in a specific process a lot of them have unusual color variants.
Maybe blue ribbon was involved I tend to think it will grade though. What ever the landed grade its a heck of a coin. >>
If the coin was a 1917 PF I would be just fine with any genuine holder
About 10 years ago I submitted to PCGS an 1837 N13 LC which hailed from Naftzger (EAC Sale 1990), through Tom Reynolds to me. Noyes plated this coin in his book, and to my knowledge it is still CC#1 for the variety. Naftzger bought the coin in 1964 from Joe Flynn, and noted on the Kraft 2x2 in his trademark green ink; unc. / sea green/olive, perfect surfaces. The large cent was as fully struck as you could expect for an N13, and had but one dull tick in Liberty's hair; otherwise, perfect.
I expected no less that MS66RB, but the geniuses claimed it was artificially enhanced. LOL
I'll guarantee you had she arrived with several hundred other LCs of Naftzger provenance it would have been graded at least 66RB, but then I have grown somewhat cynical through the years; who hasn't, eh?
You may remember I made a run at acquiring your 1916, which I believe has authentic color, but I didn't make a run at this one.
Among many other factors, PCGS seems to shy away from Lincolns which flash silver "color". Possibly what other called "wet"
I still find the surfaces very very pleasing to look at and I was rooting for you.
I was expecting different, but not at all shocked.
All is good.
<< <i>Thanks coppercolor,
I was expecting different, but not at all shocked.
All is good. >>
Yes I'm quite familiar with these feelings.
Will you try again? I'm never shy about getting a second.... second opinion
By the way I am going to be sending my 1916 to robec. I will let you know when I receive them.
<< <i>Probably.
By the way I am going to be sending my 1916 to robec. I will let you know when I receive them. >>
Cant' wait!