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My latest NEWPs: two Ireland gunmoney halfcrowns and an Imperial Roman with a killer portrait
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NEWPs from the show this past weekend.
Maxentius 306-312 AD follis. Fell in love with this one as soon as I saw it on a favorite dealer's website. First picture is mine, the second is the seller's, and the 3rd is one the seller colorized to bring ol' Max to life!
1689 Ireland gunmoney halfcrown. I spotted this one first, then the dealer showed me another one, and I just had to have both
1690 Ireland gunmoney crown overstruck on a large size 1690 gunmoney halfcrown. Lots of the undertype showing, including the date. I've always liked the king on horseback design of this era, but hadn't found a nice one until now. This one was a pain to shoot. In hand it is very dark, almost a dark chocolate brown with semi-dark highlights. The pictures bring out all sorts of colors. These planchets were made out of all sorts of types and purities of copper, brass and even pewter. From many sources including melted down pots, pans and scrap metal.
Maxentius 306-312 AD follis. Fell in love with this one as soon as I saw it on a favorite dealer's website. First picture is mine, the second is the seller's, and the 3rd is one the seller colorized to bring ol' Max to life!
1689 Ireland gunmoney halfcrown. I spotted this one first, then the dealer showed me another one, and I just had to have both
1690 Ireland gunmoney crown overstruck on a large size 1690 gunmoney halfcrown. Lots of the undertype showing, including the date. I've always liked the king on horseback design of this era, but hadn't found a nice one until now. This one was a pain to shoot. In hand it is very dark, almost a dark chocolate brown with semi-dark highlights. The pictures bring out all sorts of colors. These planchets were made out of all sorts of types and purities of copper, brass and even pewter. From many sources including melted down pots, pans and scrap metal.
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It started to rain, so I took a lunch break and sat in the van with one of my fellow diggers. He was showing me his finds for the afternoon.
One of them was a James II gunmoney halfcrown, which I thought was pretty neat.
He would've tossed it into his random pile of "greenies" had I not recognized it.
Because I did, it ended up on the club webpage.
So apparently the gunmoney was circulating in Essex, east of Colchester in England. I guess all that stuff made its way all over the place (including to this side of the pond, most likely.)
I've seen that seller who colorizes the emperor portraits before. Kind of strange, but kind of interesting, too.
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<< <i>can you tell us a bit about that interesting reverse? >>
The reverse marks the invention by Rome of the cannonball, sadly the invention of the cannon would have to wait another 1050 years.
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<< <i>can you tell us a bit about that interesting reverse? >>
The reverse marks the invention by Rome of the cannonball, sadly the invention of the cannon would have to wait another 1050 years. >>
the hover-round too perhaps
The reverse shows Maxentius receiving the globe of the earth from Roma for his role as savior of the world in an era of epic chaos.
CONSERII VRB
My best guess.
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Roman Imperial
58th Emperor of the Roman Empire (306-312AD)
(b. c. 278, d. 312AD)
Obverse: IMP C MAXENTIVS PF AVG, Laureate head of Maxentius facing right
Reverse: CONSERV VRB SVAE, Temple with 4 columns, Maxentius on left holding scepter and stepping on seated captive while receiving globe from seated Roma
AQS in Exergue
AE Follis
Minted in Aquileia 307-310AD
Translations:
IMP C MAXENTIVS PF AVG=Imperator(Commander-in-Chief)Caesar Maxentius Pius Felix(Pious and Happy) Augustus
CONSERV VRB SVAE=Protector of his city
Interestingly this exact coin type is not listed in ERICII or RIC as it should have a mint mark RBS denoting Rome and it's clearly AQS
so it's a combination between RIC 213 and 121a
Actually the coin was struck in Aquileia, not Rome, and is RIC 113 with the wolf and twins in the pediment and Victories as the acroteria. AQS = Aquileia mint, second workshop. Aquileia 121a is a hexastyle temple. 213 of Rome is of the same general type (tetrastyle temple) but has a different mintmark and different acroteria.
It is a very nice example of this issue, which was in low relief and often not fully struck up. Your coin appears to be fully struck and very high grade. Congrats.
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The neat thing with ancients is that there are so many ways to collect them. I actually know very little (a LOT less than I should!) about mintmarks, legends and types of ancient coins. I mostly enjoy the artistry of the coins and the fact that they've been preserved for so long in such great condition.
<< <i>then ERICII is mistaken as for that coin he has it as the type with only Roma in the temple
May not be mistaken, may just not list all of the varieties for each mint since I'm sure ERICII summarizes stuff a lot. It's something like 1500 pages as I recall. By contrast, there are 10 large volumes of RIC. Volume VI (the one most of interest to me) which only covers the 20 years between AD 294 to 313 is just over 700 pages by itself. RIC VII which continues to the death of Constantine is a bit bigger. And RIC itself is being constantly corrected and expanded - witness the "Not in RIC" website which has pages of updates, additions and corrections for RIC VI iteself (which was produced in the 1960s after all). Different books, different purposes.
Tom