1992 Barry Bonds Double

mygotta · January 14, 2014 6:11AM

I was going through my collection today and sorting them and came across a 1992 Topps and 1992 Fleer. Both pictures of Bonds are identical! Not shot from different angles or a later moment, identical!! Has this happened before?

Dnice · January 14, 2014 6:13AM

Happens quite a bit. Willie Mays and Hank Aaron are both very familiar with this too.

mygotta · January 14, 2014 6:14AM

<< Happens quite a bit. Willie Mays and Hank Aaron are both very familiar with this too. >>

I could see Topps doing that within their own photo archive, but this is Topps and Fleer. Do they not have their own photographers?

Dboneesq · January 14, 2014 6:21AM

As much as they look the same, I believe they are different. May have been from the same play, but I see a couple of slight differences. On the Fleer card take a look at the "tongue" on the right shoe ... it overlaps the left shoe. Not so on the Topps card.

Also on the Fleer card ... look at his left hand. There is no gap between his fingers and his uniform as there is on the Topps.

And another ... on the Fleer card take a look at the sleeve on his right arm ... there is a lot of uniform showing behind it, much more than on the Topps card.

mrmint23 · January 14, 2014 6:21AM

Close but not exact picture....check out right shoe string meeting the bottom of left foot on the fleer card...also notice white strip on left hand (topps card)

mlbfan2 · January 14, 2014 6:23AM

<< Not shot from different angles or a later moment, identical!! Has this happened before?

>>

Nope, not quite identical. Check out the shadow on his right thigh. His left hand is also slightly closer to his left leg.

Dboneesq · January 14, 2014 6:28AM

<< Happens quite a bit. Willie Mays and Hank Aaron are both very familiar with this too. >>

But I don't believe they have the same pictures on cards from different manufacturers, do they? Topps did use the same picture for a lot of guys on different year cards, especially in the mid-late 60s.

esquiresports · January 14, 2014 6:51AM

<< As much as they look the same, I believe they are different. May have been from the same play, but I see a couple of slight differences. On the Fleer card take a look at the "tongue" on the right shoe ... it overlaps the left shoe. Not so on the Topps card.

Also on the Fleer card ... look at his left hand. There is no gap between his fingers and his uniform as there is on the Topps.

And another ... on the Fleer card take a look at the sleeve on his right arm ... there is a lot of uniform showing behind it, much more than on the Topps card. >>

Wow - you guys have good eyes. I used to have this game on my iPhone from ESPN where you had to point out five differences between two photos. I was challenged. You guys would crush this.

jackstraw · January 14, 2014 7:43AM

The 82 Topps In Action and 82 Fleer Rod Carew's are identical..

ldferg · January 14, 2014 7:46AM

I like the way Topps is trying to draw attention to his left knee with that "zoom, look at me" circle.

dennis07 · January 14, 2014 7:49AM

Compare the height of his right arm. The one on the left is slightly higher than the one on the right. On his jersey on the left you can see ittsburg. The one on the right you can only see sburg.
Probably taken by the same photographer a split second apart.

OneBigDummy · January 14, 2014 8:02AM

And they probably had a chuckle together knowing that someone would notice this over twenty years later.

stevebay · January 14, 2014 8:08AM

I guess this happens more often than not, since the photographers are close to each other near the dugout. Here's another example, where there is a slight difference in the shot:

Ilovecards · January 14, 2014 8:09AM

It appears these were taken a split second apart with the one on the right side first. I think he is raising his arm to catch the ball slightly on the next photo ?

Very neat !

is Vander Wal charging the mound with a shank ?

mlbfan2 · January 14, 2014 8:16AM

<< is Vander Wal charging the mound with a shank ? >>

Yup! Here's the aftermath.

mygotta · January 14, 2014 8:18AM

<< As much as they look the same, I believe they are different. May have been from the same play, but I see a couple of slight differences. On the Fleer card take a look at the "tongue" on the right shoe ... it overlaps the left shoe. Not so on the Topps card.

Also on the Fleer card ... look at his left hand. There is no gap between his fingers and his uniform as there is on the Topps.

And another ... on the Fleer card take a look at the sleeve on his right arm ... there is a lot of uniform showing behind it, much more than on the Topps card. >>

I see the differences you spotted. They look identical because the tobacco can was in the same area. The creases and folds on his uniform are the same. His expression is the same as well. I would guess it would a split second difference between the two cards.

Dboneesq · January 14, 2014 8:31AM

<< I see the differences you spotted. They look identical because the tobacco can was in the same area. >>

C'mon, tell me you weren't looking at Barry's azz! LOL

Ilovecards · January 14, 2014 8:35AM

<< 

<< is Vander Wal charging the mound with a shank ? >>

Yup! Here's the aftermath.

>>

ha !

bunt · January 14, 2014 8:54AM

Love that Nolan Ryan card - had to get the bigger one

Stingray · January 14, 2014 8:55AM

Not exactly the same, shadows on pants are not in same position.

Dboneesq · January 14, 2014 8:57AM

<< The 82 Topps In Action and 82 Fleer Rod Carew's are identical.. >>

Like the Bonds ... REAL close, but not the same. Check out just above his bent leg ... look how much of the dugout you can see ... it's different on the two pictures. Probably taken milliseconds apart ...

Stingray · January 14, 2014 9:07AM

<< 

<< The 82 Topps In Action and 82 Fleer Rod Carew's are identical.. >>

Like the Bonds ... REAL close, but not the same. Check out just above his bent leg ... look how much of the dugout you can see ... it's different on the two pictures. Probably taken milliseconds apart ... >>

That is as close as you can get.

bunt · January 14, 2014 9:15AM

The photogs make great money with the 10 per second photo shots and then legally sell them to separate companies as different pics based on the slightest of differences.

saucywombat · January 14, 2014 9:35AM

<< 

<< The 82 Topps In Action and 82 Fleer Rod Carew's are identical.. >>

Like the Bonds ... REAL close, but not the same. Check out just above his bent leg ... look how much of the dugout you can see ... it's different on the two pictures. Probably taken milliseconds apart ... >>

same picture cropped differently?

SOM · January 14, 2014 9:36AM

Cool thread!

mygotta · January 14, 2014 9:43AM

The Fleer Rod Carew looks like there is more picture space shown. So, yes, cropped differently.

Also Topps is clearly the better printer in this matter.

But its really hard to say because the printing is different. The Fleer is so much darker. But if I were to guess, it looks like his right leg is slightly higher on the Topps card than on the Fleer card.

mlbfan2 · January 14, 2014 10:25AM

Same photo, but photoshopped?

mygotta · January 14, 2014 10:43AM

<< Same photo, but photoshopped?

>>

Yeah! That looks like the Elite version removed the blue stripe on the side of his shirt!

Also removed the logo on the helmet.

1992 Barry Bonds Double

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