<< <i>Apparently the freedom to waste time on an internet chatroom ... >>
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"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
1. A guy with a knapsack buying all the gold he could circa 1994 at a Houston area how paying cash w bundles of $100 bills. I believe he made huge bucks off Houston Rockets Tea Shirts. Many dealers stopped short of $10,000 sales bc of IRS reporting requirements. The guy was paying retail and many dealers had huge sales at a nice profit. 2. A couple shopping many original toned raw classic commems around. Many of the coins had very beautiful russet toning. There were being low balled big time and one experienced shrewd dealer got hold of them and got them behind his table and made a deal with them. His helper took over anyone coming up to the table showing them coins or running off anyone trying to horn in or curious about the deal. "Get lost, not your dern bidness." After the deal was concluded (he paid the couple cash, probably a fraction of bid) other dealers came around looking to see them and were told "they have been put away, on their way to Teletrade Raw Coin Service." 3. A guy who wanted to take a world junk coin priced at a $1.50 from my junk box to look at under a microscope at another dealers table. The request was refused. I later evaluated the coin and found it was not any rare variety. 4. A dealer loudly telling a guy pulling out a greysheet who said to the dealer "well bid is only....." the dealer told him "send them a check if you believe they will ship you the coin." Then turning around loudly muttering cusswords about those little %#& collectors. 5. A dealer loudly telling a guy trying to horn in on a deal "get away from my table and I mean now." 6. A guys wife telling a dealer near me "you ripped my husband that last show, we will not be doing business with you." 7. A dealer being loudly upset after her briefcase of inventory had been stolen off the bourse floor while loading up to leave. I was both sad for the dealer and in shock someone would such leave such a thing unattended. At least chain it to the table. 8. A dealer near me at a show who specializes in problem coins asking me "Do you think I should pack up and leave tonite - I sold him that coin for $3500 (it was a key date details coin he discounted below CW Trends he ripped off Teletrade for $800)? He was worried the guy might come back the next day wanting a refund. I told him that had to be his decision, but anything was possible especially on such a big ticket coin. A nearby dealer told him "I would never refund that as show sales are final but get away from the table if you see him come back, hide and then as quickly as you can in dodging him load up and leave....." He was back the next day but seemed very nervous.
<< <i>Show shockers I have witnessed over the years: 4. A dealer loudly telling a guy pulling out a greysheet who said to the dealer "well bid is only....." the dealer told him "send them a check if you believe they will ship you the coin." Then turning around loudly muttering cusswords about those little %#& collectors. >>
Is this dealer still in business?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
As one of those little %#& collectors I have not really been shocked all that much to date. I have been brushed off as not worthy of attention quite a few times (once with $3K in my pocket) but I can't say as I have been shocked yet. In all fairness to the opposite side of being brushed off I have also been treated like royalty by quite a few high-end dealers who knew flat out that all I could afford to do was drool. I was allowed to look at no less than 6 or so $4 Stellas back in the day when the Stamford, CT show was in operation. Still not shocking but very much appreciated!
I can offer this: I will really, really be shocked when I attend a show where the dealers adhere to the show's posted hours on all days of the show. I may just fall over dead if that happens....
Went to Minnesota to meet Walmann a few years ago. He said he passed Willis along the way and Willis smiled at him and Walmann greeted him. I said, "What ? Why didn't you tell him off for banning you ? " Walmann just smiled and said nothing. I was so shocked. I said, "I would have jumped up and down and whined and belly ached and said, Waaaaaaaa waaaaaaaa, you kicked me off the boards, I'm gonna go tell on you "
We started laughing and he said, "don't make a scene, Joe".
<< <i>Anyone ever see a fist fight at a coin show or someone being arrested? >>
yes, a fist fight and the dealer lost $20,000 in coins. they never found the culprits either. . just saying >>
Was this on the bourse floor or did they attack the dealer outside the show? >>
the dealer was leaving and 2 staged a fight, the third grabbed the brief case. i figure it was the dealers fault for not paying attention. ( something along them lines ). it was just outside the show. best wishes >>
Sounds like the classic diversion. Teams working a show will distract a dealer while one of them grabs something out of the dealer's case. Dealers need to keep everything locked in their case or have really good peripheral vision. >>
<< <i>can we still use the word "gay" ? do we still have freedom of speech ? what freedoms do we still have ? >>
Don posted a pinned thread on page one of this forum with the freedoms you have here. I'm sure if you need clarification, he'd be happy to answer your questions.
<< <i>I recall that about 8 years ago at a coin show in the SF Bay Area (Santa Clara?) a woman showed up at the show with a coin that had been passed down through her family for multiple generations. It was (I think) an 1854 S half eagle. It had been acquired by an ancestor in the SF area in the 1850's or so, had been set aside and protected. The family that owned the coin is of Chinese background. It passed from one generation to the next until the woman (and her adult children if I recall) decided to see what it might be worth.
The woman showed it to people at the show and was directed to someone who recommended that it be graded by a TPG (it was eventually graded by NGC). The woman ended up coming back to a later show that year (the 2005 SF ANA?) and met the same person again. The coin was submitted at the show for onsite grading. I believe it cam back with an MS grade. It later was sold at an auction for over $200K.
The appearance of the coin created quite a bit of "buzz" at both shows and in the hobby as it is one that had a very low surviing population (maybe even single digits). >>
I remember that. That happened at the ANA World's Fair of Money Convention in San Francisco in 2005.
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If you've been to enough coin shows like I have you'll eventually see your share of fights, arguments, assaults and arrests. Incidents don't happen often but they do. Over the years I've had several people threaten me and there was even a dealer who tried to hurdle over his table to lunge me. Unfortunately for him he didn't clear his table and ended up splattering his coins all over the floor.
Most shows are rather mundane but when dozens of egos, manics, neurotics and know-it-alls share a testosterone filled room things are bound to happen.
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Biggest surprise was seeing Alan Hagar (of Accugrade) get bashed on the forum for many sobering reasons, and then seeing him set up at Long Beach with tons of raw coins in his grading pipeline. It kind of made me sick to my stomach, and I wanted to look away, and yet I also wanted to take it all in and try and make sense of it.
<< <i>Biggest surprise was seeing Alan Hagar (of Accugrade) get bashed on the forum for many sobering reasons, and then seeing him set up at Long Beach with tons of raw coins in his grading pipeline. It kind of made me sick to my stomach, and I wanted to look away, and yet I also wanted to take it all in and try and make sense of it. >>
Was this before or after his massive lawsuit against numerous coin dealers, the ANA, several collectors who post here, etc?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>Biggest surprise was seeing Alan Hagar (of Accugrade) get bashed on the forum for many sobering reasons, and then seeing him set up at Long Beach with tons of raw coins in his grading pipeline. It kind of made me sick to my stomach, and I wanted to look away, and yet I also wanted to take it all in and try and make sense of it. >>
Was this before or after his massive lawsuit against numerous coin dealers, the ANA, several collectors who post here, etc? >>
If I could make sense of history, I would never look to the future. …. We only have NOW (no pun intended, as sexists and modern bashers go)
<< <i>Biggest surprise was seeing Alan Hagar (of Accugrade) get bashed on the forum for many sobering reasons, and then seeing him set up at Long Beach with tons of raw coins in his grading pipeline. It kind of made me sick to my stomach, and I wanted to look away, and yet I also wanted to take it all in and try and make sense of it. >>
Was this before or after his massive lawsuit against numerous coin dealers, the ANA, several collectors who post here, etc? >>
If I could make sense of history, I would never look to the future. …. We only have NOW (no pun intended, as sexists and modern bashers go) >>
Huh? What are you talking about?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Many years ago, I was looking through a box of coins and all of a sudden the dealers wife helping at the table started going off loudly at me that I was the one that was returning coins all the time. She was very mad at me. Mined you, I never dealt with them mail order. I could not convince her otherwise. no matter what I said. Crazy lady. I just walked away!
At the last Long Beach show I walked up to a table next to fella looking at a case of coins so I started looking at the case next to it. He jumped back about three feet yelling at me that I invaded his space over and over again.. I tried to calm him down ,but his eyes were wide. I said that I did not touch him or bump him. I said I was sorry he was so upset. ,But he when on repetitively screaming at me. Finally I just said, I was sorry I invaded your space (Knowing his head was in a crazy place). He walked off yelling "THATS IT", "That's It" !! Another person acting crazy, How does he survive shows, bourse tables can be very crowded. I think he might work for a dealer. I hope such people do not have a concealed weapons permit!!
My biggest shocker at a show (mid '80's) was the time I was approached by a young female sports card dealer who wanted to look through my briefcase for a sheet of baseball cards that she was claiming had been stolen from her.
Needless to say,I didn't steal her cards so I let her look through my stuff so that she could satisfy herself that I was not the thief of her cards.
As she looked through my briefcase she kept saying over and over "don't be offended." The fact of the matter is I was too to be offended.
The measure of intelligence is the ability to change.
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I was lucky in Baltimore and caught a well known dealer at a time when he wasn't busy, so we got to telling stories. I know I won't get this exactly right but I'm trying to convey the situation not the actual details.
One of his favorite stories was a guy approaching him, very non-chalant, asks if he'd look at some coins for him and carelessly PLUNKS down this musty ratty old bag on his table, clink clink clink. Slides it over to him. He's probably thinking..... junk foreign or cull Indians, you can picture it. And with the same abandon loosens the top and digs into the bag to get a handful of coins. But feel sharp edges and when he pulls them out their all uncirculated bust halves and red half cents causing him to sputter, drop the coins and fling his chair bag like he'd been bit by a scorpion.
<< <i>I did see a dealer having a salad for lunch once...that was pretty unusual.
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25+ years ago, John Hagar, brother of the aforementioned Alan, was once observed semi-staggering down an aisle of a NYC show with a bloody nose. He claimed his brother stiffed him 17 pieces from a bag of $1's and his nose was a result of this disagreement. .
That was interesting... but not a shock. . .
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
<< I recall that about 8 years ago at a coin show in the SF Bay Area (Santa Clara?) a woman showed up at the show with a coin that had been passed down through her family for multiple generations. It was (I think) an 1854 S half eagle. It had been acquired by an ancestor in the SF area in the 1850's or so, had been set aside and protected. The family that owned the coin is of Chinese background. It passed from one generation to the next until the woman (and her adult children if I recall) decided to see what it might be worth.
The woman showed it to people at the show and was directed to someone who recommended that it be graded by a TPG (it was eventually graded by NGC). The woman ended up coming back to a later show that year (the 2005 SF ANA?) and met the same person again. The coin was submitted at the show for onsite grading. I believe it cam back with an MS grade. It later was sold at an auction for over $200K.
The appearance of the coin created quite a bit of "buzz" at both shows and in the hobby as it is one that had a very low surviing population (maybe even single digits). >>
I remember that. That happened at the ANA World's Fair of Money Convention in San Francisco in 2005.
Something's wrong with that story. No 1854-S $5 has appeared at auction since the Eliasberg sale in 1982.
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25+ years ago, John Hagar, brother of the aforementioned Alan, was once observed semi-staggering down an aisle of a NYC show with a bloody nose. He claimed his brother stiffed him 17 pieces from a bag of $1's and his nose was a result of this disagreement.
I saw most of that fight. The only good fight I've seen at a coin show, and I've seen more than a few. FWIW, John may have been bloodied, but he clearly won the fight.
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Pretzel, Jerry and a wall at another NYC show. I only heard about this one, and if Archimedes didn't tell me first I'd be surprised.
Was there actually a chair involved? .
Since we're pretty OT from the OP's intent, perhaps someone could start a thread called "Can I get sued for saying this even if I don't get bammed?
Though not at a show, Bowers and Ruddy were offering the King of Siam set (Admiral Elvin Unterman?) at an auction in the basement of the St. Moritz Hotel on Central Park South. IIRC 1984.
At lot viewing, QDB offers me the yellow morocco case and its contents up the set for inspection. I was a talented up-and-coming pissant with huevos grande at the time. Thinking in that very instant "Huh? Me?, hands and voice shaking, I manage to rasp out "Could you put it down first?" The $1 and the $10 were really cool to play with. Touch 'em. . Put a glass to them. .
I was humbled.
The set did not meet its reserve.
A year later I was in the audience when, with Dave cheerleading from the podium, the Garrett 1804 failed to sell. I was the underbidder at $165,000+10%. I knew Larry Hanks, the consignor's agent, so I approached him on his way out the door and offered him $180.000 for the coin. Five minutes later the deal was done. The coin was gone at $200,000 in less than 6 weeks. . . . . .
I have not been humble very often since, and mostly when I was broke. .
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
I guess a big shocker for me was having a grading co. set up behind me and hearing numerous discussions about the cost to get a coin in a higher grade holder!
I was doing my first circle around the tables at a coin show when I spotted a different table with a guy wearing a suit standing behind it. There were display racks with bunches of slabbed coins standing up in them. Even from twenty feet away I could see there were gold eagles and double eagles, and various silver dollars and halves , all of which looked bu or proof. As I hurried over to the table I wondered why no one else was gathered around this hoard.
Then I got up close and realized they were ALL copies by the same company. I actually let out a laugh and turned on my heel to walk away.
Not a shocker, just a disappointment.
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<< <i>My biggest shocker at a show (mid '80's) was the time I was approached by a young female sports card dealer who wanted to look through my briefcase for a sheet of baseball cards that she was claiming had been stolen from her
Young female sports card dealer thats a rarity Your too kind to let her look through your briefcase most if not all would tell her something else in response to being accused of theft.
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<< <i>Apparently the freedom to waste time on an internet chatroom ... >>
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
1. A guy with a knapsack buying all the gold he could circa 1994 at a Houston area how paying cash w bundles of $100 bills. I believe he made huge bucks off Houston Rockets Tea Shirts. Many dealers stopped short of $10,000 sales bc of IRS reporting requirements. The guy was paying retail and many dealers had huge sales at a nice profit.
2. A couple shopping many original toned raw classic commems around. Many of the coins had very beautiful russet toning. There were being low balled big time and one experienced shrewd dealer got hold of them and got them behind his table and made a deal with them. His helper took over anyone coming up to the table showing them coins or running off anyone trying to horn in or curious about the deal. "Get lost, not your dern bidness." After the deal was concluded (he paid the couple cash, probably a fraction of bid) other dealers came around looking to see them and were told "they have been put away, on their way to Teletrade Raw Coin Service."
3. A guy who wanted to take a world junk coin priced at a $1.50 from my junk box to look at under a microscope at another dealers table. The request was refused. I later evaluated the coin and found it was not any rare variety.
4. A dealer loudly telling a guy pulling out a greysheet who said to the dealer "well bid is only....." the dealer told him "send them a check if you believe they will ship you the coin." Then turning around loudly muttering cusswords about those little %#& collectors.
5. A dealer loudly telling a guy trying to horn in on a deal "get away from my table and I mean now."
6. A guys wife telling a dealer near me "you ripped my husband that last show, we will not be doing business with you."
7. A dealer being loudly upset after her briefcase of inventory had been stolen off the bourse floor while loading up to leave. I was both sad for the dealer and in shock someone would such leave such a thing unattended. At least chain it to the table.
8. A dealer near me at a show who specializes in problem coins asking me "Do you think I should pack up and leave tonite - I sold him that coin for $3500 (it was a key date details coin he discounted below CW Trends he ripped off Teletrade for $800)? He was worried the guy might come back the next day wanting a refund. I told him that had to be his decision, but anything was possible especially on such a big ticket coin. A nearby dealer told him "I would never refund that as show sales are final but get away from the table if you see him come back, hide and then as quickly as you can in dodging him load up and leave....." He was back the next day but seemed very nervous.
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4. A dealer loudly telling a guy pulling out a greysheet who said to the dealer "well bid is only....." the dealer told him "send them a check if you believe they will ship you the coin." Then turning around loudly muttering cusswords about those little %#& collectors. >>
Is this dealer still in business?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
I can offer this: I will really, really be shocked when I attend a show where the dealers adhere to the show's posted hours on all days of the show. I may just fall over dead if that happens....
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I said, "What ? Why didn't you tell him off for banning you ? "
We started laughing and he said, "don't make a scene, Joe".
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<< <i>Anyone ever see a fist fight at a coin show or someone being arrested?
yes, a fist fight and the dealer lost $20,000 in coins. they never found the culprits either. . just saying >>
Was this on the bourse floor or did they attack the dealer outside the show? >>
the dealer was leaving and 2 staged a fight, the third grabbed the brief case. i figure it was the dealers fault for not paying attention. ( something along them lines ). it was just outside the show. best wishes >>
Sounds like the classic diversion. Teams working a show will distract a dealer while one of them grabs something out of the dealer's case. Dealers need to keep everything locked in their case or have really good peripheral vision. >>
that sums it up best.
<< <i>can we still use the word "gay" ? do we still have freedom of speech ? what freedoms do we still have ? >>
Don posted a pinned thread on page one of this forum with the freedoms you have here. I'm sure if you need clarification, he'd be happy to answer your questions.
<< <i>I recall that about 8 years ago at a coin show in the SF Bay Area (Santa Clara?) a woman showed up at the show with a coin that had been passed down through her family for multiple generations. It was (I think) an 1854 S half eagle. It had been acquired by an ancestor in the SF area in the 1850's or so, had been set aside and protected. The family that owned the coin is of Chinese background. It passed from one generation to the next until the woman (and her adult children if I recall) decided to see what it might be worth.
The woman showed it to people at the show and was directed to someone who recommended that it be graded by a TPG (it was eventually graded by NGC). The woman ended up coming back to a later show that year (the 2005 SF ANA?) and met the same person again. The coin was submitted at the show for onsite grading. I believe it cam back with an MS grade. It later was sold at an auction for over $200K.
The appearance of the coin created quite a bit of "buzz" at both shows and in the hobby as it is one that had a very low surviing population (maybe even single digits). >>
I remember that. That happened at the ANA World's Fair of Money Convention in San Francisco in 2005.
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Most shows are rather mundane but when dozens of egos, manics, neurotics and know-it-alls share a testosterone filled room things are bound to happen.
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<< <i>Biggest surprise was seeing Alan Hagar (of Accugrade) get bashed on the forum for many sobering reasons, and then seeing him set up at Long Beach with tons of raw coins in his grading pipeline. It kind of made me sick to my stomach, and I wanted to look away, and yet I also wanted to take it all in and try and make sense of it. >>
Was this before or after his massive lawsuit against numerous coin dealers, the ANA, several collectors who post here, etc?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
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<< <i>Biggest surprise was seeing Alan Hagar (of Accugrade) get bashed on the forum for many sobering reasons, and then seeing him set up at Long Beach with tons of raw coins in his grading pipeline. It kind of made me sick to my stomach, and I wanted to look away, and yet I also wanted to take it all in and try and make sense of it. >>
Was this before or after his massive lawsuit against numerous coin dealers, the ANA, several collectors who post here, etc? >>
If I could make sense of history, I would never look to the future. …. We only have NOW (no pun intended, as sexists and modern bashers go)
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<< <i>Biggest surprise was seeing Alan Hagar (of Accugrade) get bashed on the forum for many sobering reasons, and then seeing him set up at Long Beach with tons of raw coins in his grading pipeline. It kind of made me sick to my stomach, and I wanted to look away, and yet I also wanted to take it all in and try and make sense of it. >>
Was this before or after his massive lawsuit against numerous coin dealers, the ANA, several collectors who post here, etc? >>
If I could make sense of history, I would never look to the future. …. We only have NOW (no pun intended, as sexists and modern bashers go) >>
Huh? What are you talking about?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Many years ago, I was looking through a box of coins and all of a sudden the dealers wife helping at the table started going off
loudly at me that I was the one that was returning coins all the time. She was very mad at me.
Mined you, I never dealt with them mail order. I could not convince her otherwise. no matter what I said.
Crazy lady. I just walked away!
At the last Long Beach show I walked up to a table next to fella looking at a case of coins so I started looking at the case next to it.
He jumped back about three feet yelling at me that I invaded his space over and over again.. I tried to calm him down ,but his eyes were wide.
I said that I did not touch him or bump him. I said I was sorry he was so upset. ,But he when on repetitively screaming at me.
Finally I just said, I was sorry I invaded your space (Knowing his head was in a crazy place). He walked off yelling "THATS IT", "That's It" !!
Another person acting crazy, How does he survive shows, bourse tables can be very crowded. I think he might work for a dealer. I hope such people do not have a concealed weapons permit!!
Needless to say,I didn't steal her cards so I let her look through my stuff so that she could satisfy herself that I was not the thief of her cards.
As she looked through my briefcase she kept saying over and over "don't be offended." The fact of the matter is I was too
The measure of intelligence is the ability to change.
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One of his favorite stories was a guy approaching him, very non-chalant, asks if he'd look at some coins for him and carelessly PLUNKS down this musty ratty old bag on his table, clink clink clink. Slides it over to him. He's probably thinking..... junk foreign or cull Indians, you can picture it. And with the same abandon loosens the top and digs into the bag to get a handful of coins. But feel sharp edges and when he pulls them out their all uncirculated bust halves and red half cents causing him to sputter, drop the coins and fling his chair bag like he'd been bit by a scorpion.
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<< <i>I did see a dealer having a salad for lunch once...that was pretty unusual.
K >>
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<< <i>I did see a dealer having a salad for lunch once...that was pretty unusual.
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Look for me at Long Beach. For various reasons that's usually my daily lunch routine at Long Beach.
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That was interesting... but not a shock. .
The woman showed it to people at the show and was directed to someone who recommended that it be graded by a TPG (it was eventually graded by NGC). The woman ended up coming back to a later show that year (the 2005 SF ANA?) and met the same person again. The coin was submitted at the show for onsite grading. I believe it cam back with an MS grade. It later was sold at an auction for over $200K.
The appearance of the coin created quite a bit of "buzz" at both shows and in the hobby as it is one that had a very low surviing population (maybe even single digits). >>
I remember that. That happened at the ANA World's Fair of Money Convention in San Francisco in 2005.
Something's wrong with that story. No 1854-S $5 has appeared at auction since the Eliasberg sale in 1982.
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I saw most of that fight. The only good fight I've seen at a coin show, and I've seen more than a few. FWIW, John may have been bloodied, but he clearly won the fight.
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Pretzel, Jerry and a wall at another NYC show. I only heard about this one, and if Archimedes didn't tell me first I'd be surprised.
Was there actually a chair involved? .
Since we're pretty OT from the OP's intent, perhaps someone could start a thread called "Can I get sued for saying this even if I don't get bammed?
Though not at a show, Bowers and Ruddy were offering the King of Siam set (Admiral Elvin Unterman?) at an auction in the basement of the St. Moritz Hotel on Central Park South. IIRC 1984.
At lot viewing, QDB offers me the yellow morocco case and its contents up the set for inspection. I was a talented up-and-coming pissant with huevos grande at the time. Thinking in that very instant "Huh? Me?, hands and voice shaking, I manage to rasp out "Could you put it down first?" The $1 and the $10 were really cool to play with. Touch 'em. .
I was humbled.
The set did not meet its reserve.
A year later I was in the audience when, with Dave cheerleading from the podium, the Garrett 1804 failed to sell. I was the underbidder at $165,000+10%. I knew Larry Hanks, the consignor's agent, so I approached him on his way out the door and offered him $180.000 for the coin. Five minutes later the deal was done. The coin was gone at $200,000 in less than 6 weeks. .
I have not been humble very often since, and mostly when I was broke. .
Yes. Just like in the WWWF.
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
Then I got up close and realized they were ALL copies by the same company. I actually let out a laugh and turned on my heel to walk away.
Not a shocker, just a disappointment.
Successful BST deals with mustangt and jesbroken. Now EVERYTHING is for sale.
<< <i>My biggest shocker at a show (mid '80's) was the time I was approached by a young female sports card dealer who wanted to look through my briefcase for a sheet of baseball cards that she was claiming had been stolen from her
Young female sports card dealer thats a rarity