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  • BigABigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭
    I am DEFINITELY not a guru but lighting is a MAJOR factor in getting good shots....looks like that's an issue here
  • ormandhormandh Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭
    how many lights are you using? Using more than one light will help. Another suggestion would be to go completely manual. Your aperture is a little high. Are you using a tripod or copy stand?
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What's your beef? What lens are you using? Lighting?

    Aperture is pretty high at F20. That's a small opening, allowing less light into the camera. Are you doing this for depth of field? Is the coin not square to the camera? Otherwise, try F/5.6-8 or so. You'll get faster shutter speeds. Use plenty of light.

    Not a big deal but I would go with a lower ISO (I use 100) for less grainy images. It tends to be a problem with pretty high settings and 400 is not too extreme. But why are you up there?
    Lance.
  • CoinZipCoinZip Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What lens are you using? Lighting?

    But why are you up there?
    Lance. >>



    First off this image is straight from the camera, no editing at all.

    No lens just the one that came with the camera.
    No lights, other than the normal room lighting (the light in the middle of the ceiling).
    By "up there" I'm assuming your referring to the f stop, its because there is no light, with no light the shutter has to stay open longer to allow more light in.

    All that being said, this is exactly what the coin looks like in hand, in the room it was photographed in, with the given light or lack of. Now if you shine bright lights on the coin, you see more luster.

    This coin is the first coin I ever sent into PCGS, it came back MS 64RB, which I feel was pretty accurate.

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  • rmpsrpmsrmpsrpms Posts: 1,953 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What don't you like about the shot? It's a little dark, but that can be easily fixed with a touch of levels adjustment in post. It's always better to be a little under-exposed versus over-exposed.

    From your EXIF data, you have two things that may mess up the quality of the image:

    1) f/20 aperture. This will make the pixel-level details fuzzy due to diffraction.
    2) 3.2sec shutter speed. This in itself is not an issue, except it can allow any small vibrations to blur the image.

    The image is small, so it's impossible to tell if either of these is messing up the shot.


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  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,945 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The lack of light and high f-stop is causing the long exposure
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  • BigABigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭
    You seem to like the way the pic represents the coin which makes me ask the question: why the posted question for advice on "what I'm doing wrong"?
  • Alltheabove76Alltheabove76 Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭✭
    Also he is using Aperature Priority setting. That means you pick the aperture and the camera decided the exposure. Use manual if your camera has it, that way you can adjust the exposure to let more light in. On close up images the camera almost always underexposes coins when using the automatic mode.
  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,077 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you are writing that this is exactly as the coin looks in-hand, why does the title of your thread ask about what you are doing wrong? That makes for confusion.
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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,533 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If it does not look like that in hand then....

    White Balance?
    Try f/8 or f/9 then increase your shutter spead for a sharper image.
    Try moving the lights around?
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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Try moving the lights around? >>



    so your suggestion is to move the ceiling?



    << <i>No lights, other than the normal room lighting (the light in the middle of the ceiling). >>


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  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,856 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Who says you're doing something wrong?

    If you think the photo looks exactly like the coin in-hand, why try to improve on it?

    In general, most people who shoot lots of coins use dedicated lights (which can be adjusted), a wider aperture, 18% grey card for white balance, and a macro lens. It's hard to see fine detail from the photo you showed us, but honestly it looks pretty good. I promise you it's better than I could obtain with a 3.2 second exposure.

    My setup uses enough halogen light that with a 100mm macro lens, I'm usually at ISO 200, f/6.3, with a shutter between 1/320 to 1/2,500. I worry slightly about melting the slabs or plastic pronged gaskets, but so far so good. image

    I usually shoot each coin at three or four different exposures and pick the one that provides the best contrast & detail.

    ....... but, that's just me. There are many ways to do a thing. Pick one that works for you and go with it.
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,533 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Try moving the lights around? >>



    so your suggestion is to move the ceiling?



    << <i>No lights, other than the normal room lighting (the light in the middle of the ceiling). >>


    . >>

    I missed that. image

    Get some cheap lights and CFL bulbs then if not happy?... image

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  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,044 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not too shabby as is.

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  • BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,192 ✭✭✭✭
    Give a little more light from the south to get rid of that shadow at the rim. Other than that, it looks fine. image
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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>i missed that. image >>



    i am really glad you saw the humor image

    as much chaos as is out there, i try not to pass up on too many opportunities to make someone smile or laugh. words on a screen can be a bit more challenging for this goal, but it is doable image
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  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Keyman the *Photo* of your lights blinded me! OP, bigger aperature less speed, move all around your room and explore how the changing lights alter your view in the camera screen. Light your coin like a portrait not an exhibit.

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