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Will this Top 100 Morgan Grade as Problem Free or Cleaned?

moosesrmoosesr Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭
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Any opinions on whether this Top 100 Morgan will Grade as Problem Free or cleaned?

Thanks!

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    PokermandudePokermandude Posts: 2,713 ✭✭✭
    Cleaned.
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    kimber45ACPkimber45ACP Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Cleaned. >>


    +1
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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Harshly cleaned.
    All glory is fleeting.
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    moosesrmoosesr Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭
    I was about to convince myself that this coin was not cleaned.....The coin is really bright, but doesn't have any really deep cleaning marks. Would some Taco Bell Napkin toning help?
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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 34,427 ✭✭✭✭✭
    cleaned. no opinion on the napkins. (fwiw)
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    JJMJJM Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭✭✭
    that will not grade
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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,857 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cleaned, although it really doesn't look harshly cleaned. Maybe a trip to Taco Bell would help.
    John
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    BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd recommend taking this coin and putting it next to a few slabbed A50 to MS63 examples. The differences should be immediately evident.
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    moosesrmoosesr Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭
    I did compare it to a few AU50 to AU55 slabbed examples and it didn't look all that different to me, maybe just brighter than the others. That is why I thought about the Taco Bell toning possibility.
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    jmj3esqjmj3esq Posts: 5,421 ✭
    Harshly cleaned. No chance at a grade.
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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,053 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How could you miss all the little parallel scratches? If it were from normal circulation the scratches would
    all be random and not all going the same direction (parallel).

    cleaned.

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    3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭
    cleaned…but depending on how rare the VAM is, you can always still have it attributed (TOP 100) and slabbed as AU/Details in a PCGS holder. Good luck to you either way.

    Erik
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    moosesrmoosesr Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭
    When I rotated the coin under bright light the scratches didn't seem to be all parallel like they look in my pictures.
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    pmacpmac Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭
    Polished.
    Paul
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    moosesrmoosesr Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭
    Here are some pictures of a 1921-s AU53 that I just took. I guess it doesn't have as many parallel lines as the other coin.

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    BustCudsBustCuds Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭

    Harshly cleaned, will not grade image
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    NickcapNickcap Posts: 977 ✭
    Moosesr,

    nice 1B-4 Thornhead.
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    BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,200 ✭✭✭✭
    Can confidently say that coin will not grade.
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    SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That piece won't receive a grade. Based on those images, I think that it has been polished.
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    BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's hard to put into words the look that the first coin exhibits, but the surfaces look polished. ALL of the scratches on the cheek are oriented in a similar direction. Look at Liberty's cap, the hair, and the lettering around the rim. These areas all look unnaturally bright/flashy. There is no depth to the luster - more like it's painted on. The second coin shows deeper luster with a more original, granular look to the surfaces. There is evidence of a wipe with a few scratches going the same direction, but the whole coin doesn't show the same polished look the first one does.
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    moosesrmoosesr Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭
    I will use the Taco Bell Napkin Toning technique on the coin and see if I can make it look more natural.
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    3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I will use the Taco Bell Napkin Toning technique on the coin and see if I can make it look more natural. >>



    going for the double/double are we (cleaned/AT)? I suppose it is basketball season image

    Erik
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    HmannHmann Posts: 157
    Take a common date slider Morgan, and pull out the silver polish and get to work. After your done, take a look at it. It becomes very obvious after that what the proper luster on a coin should look like.
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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,895 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Take a common date slider Morgan, and pull out the silver polish and get to work. After your done, take a look at it. It becomes very obvious after that what the proper luster on a coin should look like. >>

    Sounds like fun!

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    WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭
    Definitely cleaned.
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