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How are die cracks appreciated in this forum?

Any takers?

I love them, assuming not too severe.

As to me, they bring out the coin's age, and blood and sweat gone through on minting processes, though not really relevant.

Remember, they are very rare today, back then, not so much. It shows the true art of minting coins, of quality, in my opinion.

Just my 2c. Anyone else ?

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  • BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,192 ✭✭✭✭
    Considering there are die cracks on almost every coin in my collection, you could say I like 'em a little image
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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm a Morgan dollar collector and die cracks are the norm.

    Just part of the coin.

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,884 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like die cracks. They give a coin character and allow one to identify a coin as coming from a specific die.

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  • hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,837 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think most people that collect early coins are going to say they like them image Now if they say they like crack, then we have a different problem image
  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    you mean these things? who in the world could like something like this?

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  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    A shield nickel without a die crack would be unusual, right? image

    But the best board discussion about die cracks would be the one discussed in this thread, as the real old-timers will remember...
    That famous Massachusetts quarter!

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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Did someone say die cracks ?
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    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭✭
    I've always been partial to coins that best represent the original design as it was intended by the makers.
  • I really like them ... they add to the "uniqueness" of a piece. Some of those shield nickels can get pretty wild.
    Let's try not to get upset.
  • MilkmanDanMilkmanDan Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like them. The series I collect (trade dollars) saw proof dies repurposed for business strikes so they can be a very useful diagnostic for the Philadelphia issues.
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Those are spectacular cracks, JRocco! Impressive.

    I love die failure and it's fun to see the different stages. Hard to beat a barely circulated coin from fatigued dies.
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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Die cracks are an authentication tool, especially on gold. Hard to duplicate fine die cracks and die polish lines on counterfeits. I likes 'em a lots.
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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    To me, to each their own.
    For me personally, some die cracks add character to a coin and some are just distracting and nothing I personally want.

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  • 1tommy1tommy Posts: 3,024 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is my first and have another proof quarter on its way 1968 S. I collect quarters and this is just a great extension to my series. Enjoy image

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  • OnWithTheHuntOnWithTheHunt Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The bigger the better, I say. These are all 1915-Ds, a very good year for cracks

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,709 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Die cracks represent a flaw in the manufacturing process. To me, they are a negative.
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  • CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Die cracks represent a flaw in the manufacturing process. To me, they are a negative. >>



    Let the record reflect that I agree with 291fifth!
  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,863 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nah, they're really cool, like clash marks, rpd's, rpm's, late die states, cuds, and everything else that gives classic coins character.

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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,548 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've owned some crack in my day. image
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  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I love them....it's true character and like a fingerprint for the coin they have tattooed. Just proof that time cannot be frozen and the only thing perfect is God image

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  • OnedollarnohollarOnedollarnohollar Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭✭
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    how about the 2009p Lincoln Formative cent...this is one of several nice varieties of die cracks found in this series...love it!
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,884 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Die cracks are an authentication tool, especially on gold. Hard to duplicate fine die cracks and die polish lines on counterfeits. I likes 'em a lots. >>


    Good point. If two coins have an identical pattern of die cracks, you can conclude both coins came from the same die.

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  • djdilliodondjdilliodon Posts: 1,938 ✭✭
    I like them but I like die polish lines more image.
  • s4nys4ny Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Die cracks represent a flaw in the manufacturing process. To me, they are a negative. >>



    I feel the same. Prefer a correctly manufactured coin.
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,515 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Die cracks represent a flaw in the manufacturing process. To me, they are a negative.[/q

    and yet flaws in the minting process seem to be highly collectible and can even be rare depending on the type and the size of the flaw, die crack. >>



    die cracks serve as attribution points for capped bust half dime remarriages. Without the cracks (and other ghastly defects in the process), collectors most likely would have never known that die remarriages existed.

  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ther are a fact of life with Vermonts. The anomaly is a coin without, through it's life. That is represented only by the Baby Head. A few do not come "uncracked", such as the rare Ryder 26. image. image
  • I like them!
    All the best,

    Rob

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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,324 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think they're pretty cool when they're dramatic, and especially when you can watch a progression grow over time as a die deteriorates, such as the 1888-O VAM 1B Morgan $1 or 1922 VAM 2C Peace dollar.

    At the same time, if I'm in the market for a choice type coin like a Shield nickel, 3c Nickel, I'd prefer one on pristine dies.

    Then there are coins that would otherwise never be worth a second look, like this one.

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  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,930 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for posting that
    Brazil coin above.

    I've never seen it before -
    Talk about catastrophic Die Failure !
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  • BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,192 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Die cracks represent a flaw in the manufacturing process. To me, they are a negative. >>



    Let the record reflect that I agree with 291fifth! >>



    See, I think that's what makes them interesting image But I understand why you stand where you do - they certainly aren't for everybody.
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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,324 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Thanks for posting that
    Brazil coin above.

    I've never seen it before -
    Talk about catastrophic Die Failure ! >>


    I count 10 pieces for the obverse.
  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Die cracks can be wonderful to study, especially if they are huge. They do not represent what the designer/mintmaster intended, but neither do pieces struck on rotten blanks/planchets (so common with colonials, early large cents, etc.).
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  • shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    High end collectors hate them and I can't blame them, they are an imperfection.
    Numismatists are interested in them because they illustrate the end of a die life, in various stages.
    I love them but only when they are severe, and look like the die crumbled on the next strike.

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  • WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 6,923 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My fav..Triple die crack on the 1922 D. So yes, I do not mind them.

    WS

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