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Check out this PCI slabbed 1926-S rainbow toned Peace $1 with a mysterious sticker.

GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,939 ✭✭✭✭✭
I assume the seller stickered this one....I must say I like the look of this Peace $1.
Do you think PCGS would slab her??

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$2,475.00 BIN

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  • Saw it a couple of weeks back and I don't remember the price then but I
    think it's the same. Nice colors and like said the norm for a PCI holder. Think
    I would rather buy a nice rainbow Peace in a PCGS or NGC holder for that kind of money.

    I got a feeling that it would cross to PCGS and at a better grade like a 64 or better.



  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Suspect to me. If that is truly ring caused toning then why is the toning in an arc? Shouldn't it be
    circular?

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  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,945 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Suspect to me. If that is truly ring caused toning then why is the toning in an arc? Shouldn't it be
    circular?

    bobimage >>



    I thought it was paper label caused toning?
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  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,757 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Suspect to me. If that is truly ring caused toning then why is the toning in an arc? Shouldn't it be
    circular?

    bobimage >>







    Here is but one of my PCI examples to compare it with.
    Some come circular, some in an arc......I will search for more or click on my toned ase set.






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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,538 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like that 26-S Peace Dollar but for that money I would much prefer a PCGS 65+. Yikes!
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  • BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,192 ✭✭✭✭
    Pretty, but I doubt PCGS would grade it.
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  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm sure it's already been sent in to PCGS...
    And sent right back.

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  • Coin looks like a 65 based on those photos, but they're also really bad pics and the lighting could really be hiding some marks/cleaning. I can't even tell what colors those actually are because of the lighting, I'd guess they're much brighter than in the pics. I think it may be a nice coin, but it's priced at close to 1.5x it's value even so.
    Specialist in Lincoln Cents, Toned Type, and Slab enthusiast.
  • I see no reason why that wouldn't cross at grade or higher. I've had excellent results crossing green label PCI gold coins to PCGS (most graded higher at PCGS).
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  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,632 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe the sticker is the calling card of the coin doctor who AT'ed it?

    Kidding- I'm sure it's a dealer's seal of approval.


  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,638 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i think it should cross because we all know what toned it and they have crossed before. it's a nice coin!
  • jmj3esqjmj3esq Posts: 5,421
    Looks beautiful and appears to be typical PCI holder toning. Im surprised PCI only graded it MS63. It looks pretty clean to me. I would crack that baby give it one chance at PCGS and if all fails it will look beautiful in a 7070 type set. The holder its in can only do one thing for the coin...that is to explain how it toned the way it has.
  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,825 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ok if the lable is what is causing the toning why is the rev toning from the bottom up vs the obv which is toning from the top down?
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  • jmj3esqjmj3esq Posts: 5,421
    Compare the coin in the OP to this 1926-S MS63 I had Truviewed recently.

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    I love mine, and feel its much more original, but I still like the looks of your coin.
  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The PCI label says "95% white". That's pretty strong evidence for PCI label toning.

    Either that or gassing image
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  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,939 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The PCI label says "95% white". That's pretty strong evidence for PCI label toning.

    Either that or gassing image >>



    Is the PCI label impregnated with sulfur?? image
  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have had a couple PCI coins come back questionable color, and that one I would expect to be the same.
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,844 ✭✭✭✭✭
    look at the 6 in 63- this is an early PCI graded coin- probably early to mid 1990s

    I no nothing about this sticker- could be the dealer's logo

    I like it and would likely leave it as it is.

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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks better than a 63.

    I'd leave it in the PCI slab and try a cross at any grade. Worth a shot and it would be a major win in a PCGS holder.
    Lance.
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,305 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The PCI label says "95% white". That's pretty strong evidence for PCI label toning.

    Either that or gassing image >>


    I had a few PCI slabs of that era for which I was the original owner, and some were toned like that. It's probably a combination of the label and the plastic off-gassing. Nothing deliberate.
  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,782 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think I have to wonder why the owner has already crossed it to PCGS or NGC. Could it be its AT and he thinks it may come back in BBD.

    The coin looks much nicer than 63. I would be tempted to crack it and submit it. Assuming I had no more than 300 in it I would submit it, roll the dice. Then if it came back ungraded well it makes a nice raw piece for an album or blowout at starting bid of 99c.
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The toning might be from the holder, however that's a very hard surfaced looking 26-S and the images look juiced.

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  • SoCalBigMarkSoCalBigMark Posts: 2,802 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Totally legit and needs about five more years In that holder.
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I think I have to wonder why the owner has already crossed it to PCGS or NGC. Could it be its AT and he thinks it may come back in BBD.

    The coin looks much nicer than 63. I would be tempted to crack it and submit it. Assuming I had no more than 300 in it I would submit it, roll the dice. Then if it came back ungraded well it makes a nice raw piece for an album or blowout at starting bid of 99c. >>

    Crosses don't come back in body bags.

    Leaving it in the PCI holder may help explain its toning. Crack and submit it raw and odds are poor. We all know what PCGS thinks about colorful Peace dollars.
    Lance.
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just looked at the seller and the auction.

    I bought one coin from him and returned it. I'll bet this Peace dollar is nicely toned but I believe the colors are exaggerated.
    Lance.
  • Colors are juiced.
    For 2400 I would never touch it
    I see that kryptonitecomics has two monster toned peace on auction right now, that are going way too cheap, and they're NGC holdered to boot.
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  • I bought this one raw about 20 years ago and then a few years latter I sent it to PCI. Kept
    it for awhile and then sent it to NGC several years latter. I've often wondered if I should
    see how PCGS would grade it. It was toned raw just an example of grade differences. I
    really need to take some newer pictures of the NGC holder.

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  • jerseycat101jerseycat101 Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>
    I see that kryptonitecomics has two monster toned peace on auction right now, that are going way too cheap, and they're NGC holdered to boot. >>



    They are both from the famous 314 leather pouch hoard that are widely considered to be AT.
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I love how certain some folks are about whether a coin has been sent in to another service or not, what the grades are, and what the colors are (NT/AT) from a photo...

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  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>
    I see that kryptonitecomics has two monster toned peace on auction right now, that are going way too cheap, and they're NGC holdered to boot. >>



    They are both from the famous 314 leather pouch hoard that are widely considered to be AT. >>




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  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,939 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I love how certain some folks are about whether a coin has been sent in to another service or not, what the grades are, and what the colors are (NT/AT) from a photo...

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  • jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That coin rocks.
    It'd stay right where it is if it was my coin. Small white Anacs, old Fat Ngc, and pretty target toned PCI coins stay in their holders in my collection...
  • bestclser1bestclser1 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    Price is high,bet its better than a 63 in hand,and also would guess it would holder by our hosts!
    Great coins are not cheap,and cheap coins are not great!
  • The person selling this coin is a true blu color person...His coin site is very well put togther and his coins are legit. I have dealth with him many many times. The red tag his is way of saying its a really nice coin, it does not mean anything more then that. The owner of the coin site in NOT a member here, so he cannot answer for himself...Kameron is honest
    and stands by anything he sells..check his coin at ChristisenCoins... if there is some at coins, they are sold has at coins, all I have seen here is coins that would cross over by our wonderful host and others..
    aps
  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,055 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good guy seller. I say it'd slab at any of the services. It's not like they're too picky on ASE toning.
  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Toning is typical for that era PCI holder.
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  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,467 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The person selling this coin is a true blu color person...His coin site is very well put togther and his coins are legit. I have dealth with him many many times. The red tag his is way of saying its a really nice coin, it does not mean anything more then that. The owner of the coin site in NOT a member here, so he cannot answer for himself...Kameron is honest
    and stands by anything he sells..check his coin at ChristisenCoins... if there is some at coins, they are sold has at coins, all I have seen here is coins that would cross over by our wonderful host and others..
    aps >>




    I agree 100%. I've met Kameron a few times and have done a few deals with him as well. It's always been a positive experience. He is quite picky with the coins he buys (in a good way) and I've found that he only buys the best of the best when it comes to color.
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The person selling this coin is a true blu color person...His coin site is very well put togther and his coins are legit. I have dealth with him many many times. The red tag his is way of saying its a really nice coin, it does not mean anything more then that. The owner of the coin site in NOT a member here, so he cannot answer for himself...Kameron is honest
    and stands by anything he sells..check his coin at ChristisenCoins... if there is some at coins, they are sold has at coins, all I have seen here is coins that would cross over by our wonderful host and others..
    aps >>


    I agree. Kameron is very honest, easy to deal with, and good at communication. I'm just not crazy about the effects used to bring out color in many of his ebay auctions. Sometimes he'll present "daylight" shots as well, which are more realistic.

    Hard to say about OP's Peace dollar. It might be spot on.
    Lance.

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