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I am finished bidding after a tricky auction (for me) given the sequence of items offered and overall budget allocated. Overall, quite pleased with the Hungarian pieces below which are tougher to find nice and problem free. Interestingly, I could not compete on the prior Stacks auction and even Goldbergs while here prices were reflective of market or for the Hungarian Taler, what I consider a steal.

My sentiment again is that the number of Heritage lots and sessions dilute bidding levels, while more selective auctions offering fewer pieces ended up selling at even more than double the price. As an example, the Hungarian Taler sold for double the price on Stacks.

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Habsburg Talers

TalerUniverse.com is a curated numismatic project dedicated to the silver talers, crowns, and medals of the Habsburg Empire and the Holy Roman Empire, spanning the 16th–18th centuries. The collection emphasizes historically significant issues, rare mint varieties, and high-grade NGC/PCGS examples, presented with detailed historical context, scholarly references, and high-resolution photography. TalerUniverse aims to serve both as a private collection showcase and a growing reference resource for collectors, researchers, and students of early-modern European coinage.

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  • bronzematbronzemat Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Beautiful additions. I like the 1/2 taler especially. Dont see them often.
  • coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,325 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The collection grows! Nice pic ups
  • ZoharZohar Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Beautiful additions. I like the 1/2 taler especially. Dont see them often. >>



    Thanks Bronzemat. I don't either. This one in hand (saw it in NYC's Heritage office) has lots of luster uncommon for the type. Not sure why they are not common in higher grades - perhaps the large size Talers were stored away and not as heavily circulated.



    << <i>The collection grows! Nice pic ups >>



    Thank you sir.
    Habsburg Talers

    TalerUniverse.com is a curated numismatic project dedicated to the silver talers, crowns, and medals of the Habsburg Empire and the Holy Roman Empire, spanning the 16th–18th centuries. The collection emphasizes historically significant issues, rare mint varieties, and high-grade NGC/PCGS examples, presented with detailed historical context, scholarly references, and high-resolution photography. TalerUniverse aims to serve both as a private collection showcase and a growing reference resource for collectors, researchers, and students of early-modern European coinage.
  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,056 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great pickups

    Congrats!
    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
    I give away money. I collect money.
    I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.




  • worldcoinguyworldcoinguy Posts: 3,053 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Stunning - all of them. Especially the 1604 piece.
  • nicholasz219nicholasz219 Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭
    Stunning coins is right. A great group. I particularly like the 1694 piece. The tone of the silver and the strike really appeal to me.

    On a related note, what do you think might be a good "one off" piece just to have a Hungarian/Austrian Thaler in my collection? More common would probably suit my budget better, if at all. I know nothing about these, so I might as well ask the master for some guidance. Also, what would be a good book to read to get my bearings on these? Thanks Zohar, for the education and great show as usual.

  • ZoharZohar Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thank you. Personally, I believe the Hogmouth pieces to be representative of the Austrian Taler. However, there and many more designs beyond, especially German types, so no shortage of choise. There a few references -

    1) Davenport Series - LINK. The volumes are broken by century, with a set for European crowns and another for German Talers.

    2) Standard Price Guide to World Crowns & Talers 1484-1968 1984 ed. - summarizes all the Davenport catalogs. Fewer images and detail, but a good reference. LINK


    3) More detailed die level - Voglhuber, Moser Tursky. Not worth the investment at this stage.

    Prices vary based on quality. Higher grades go north of $1,000 at times, multiples. Lower grade (VF-XF), a couple of hundred. Keep an eye on ebay. My view, especially if buying one piece, try to get the best you can afford.

    PM me as needed.
    Habsburg Talers

    TalerUniverse.com is a curated numismatic project dedicated to the silver talers, crowns, and medals of the Habsburg Empire and the Holy Roman Empire, spanning the 16th–18th centuries. The collection emphasizes historically significant issues, rare mint varieties, and high-grade NGC/PCGS examples, presented with detailed historical context, scholarly references, and high-resolution photography. TalerUniverse aims to serve both as a private collection showcase and a growing reference resource for collectors, researchers, and students of early-modern European coinage.
  • JCMhoustonJCMhouston Posts: 5,306 ✭✭✭
    Very nice Z, I picked up one British lot at heritage. I sat idly by watching the German States pieces go really cheap, but sticking to the budget waiting for the British lot I realy wanted. If somehow we could change to alphabet and get Great britain ahead of the German States I could have bought several more since I got the British cheaper than expected.
  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The 1603 Taler is stunning - seems that pic does it no justice at all - check out that reverse imageimage
    The 1/2T is also a winner.
    Congrats!
  • MilkmanDanMilkmanDan Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't collect these but I certainly see the attraction. Very nice coins.
  • Some very nice pieces! I especially like the tone of that 1701 Taler.
  • WorldTypeSetWorldTypeSet Posts: 1,356 ✭✭✭✭
    Nicely done, more eye candy. I've noticed your trend away from lightly circulated pieces to mint state ones image
  • JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very nice pickups indeed Zohar!

    That 1701 hogmouth taler was one I was watching myself, it is simply a beauty.
    Ultimately though I focused my limited attention on a couple of other pieces that were more in line with what I already have started in my collection.
    Your ever growing collection never fails to amaze me. Sometimes when I see your posts I think to myself..."when I finally get my collecting act together I want to collect like Zohar".

    As always, thank you for sharing!

    JC
  • ZoharZohar Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭✭✭
    All - Thank you very much for the kind words.

    Another piece that I sent in raw was just graded by NGC as MS-63.

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    Habsburg Talers

    TalerUniverse.com is a curated numismatic project dedicated to the silver talers, crowns, and medals of the Habsburg Empire and the Holy Roman Empire, spanning the 16th–18th centuries. The collection emphasizes historically significant issues, rare mint varieties, and high-grade NGC/PCGS examples, presented with detailed historical context, scholarly references, and high-resolution photography. TalerUniverse aims to serve both as a private collection showcase and a growing reference resource for collectors, researchers, and students of early-modern European coinage.
  • nicholasz219nicholasz219 Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭
    Heritage post auction available buys are up.
  • ZoharZohar Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Tried imaging from multiple angles.

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    Habsburg Talers

    TalerUniverse.com is a curated numismatic project dedicated to the silver talers, crowns, and medals of the Habsburg Empire and the Holy Roman Empire, spanning the 16th–18th centuries. The collection emphasizes historically significant issues, rare mint varieties, and high-grade NGC/PCGS examples, presented with detailed historical context, scholarly references, and high-resolution photography. TalerUniverse aims to serve both as a private collection showcase and a growing reference resource for collectors, researchers, and students of early-modern European coinage.
  • SyracusianSyracusian Posts: 6,519 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Nicely done, more eye candy. I've noticed your trend away from lightly circulated pieces to mint state ones image >>





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    Realizing that it's not worth purchasing XF-AU grades with the intention to upgrade them later, is a sure sign of collecting maturity and it also saves you money overall. Wonderful pick ups. image
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  • ZoharZohar Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Indeed Indeed. Took some time to build the knowledge and grading considerations to take the plunge. Thank you.
    Habsburg Talers

    TalerUniverse.com is a curated numismatic project dedicated to the silver talers, crowns, and medals of the Habsburg Empire and the Holy Roman Empire, spanning the 16th–18th centuries. The collection emphasizes historically significant issues, rare mint varieties, and high-grade NGC/PCGS examples, presented with detailed historical context, scholarly references, and high-resolution photography. TalerUniverse aims to serve both as a private collection showcase and a growing reference resource for collectors, researchers, and students of early-modern European coinage.
  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hey nice try Z - my suggestion - crossover to PCGS and you'll get a great picture of it image
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