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Grades added: Just slabbed and trueviewed...let's play "guess the grade" (sorry, but 4 mo

BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
So, had 4 trueviews done on some coins in a submission that got released today. EDITED: The other 4, in the same submission, just got updated, so adding them now (sorry to those that already visited and were nice enough to guess)

I will post them, and state whether they started raw or slabbed (I did crack some out before sending in, so they were all seen raw).
Nothing was done to any of the coins by me after I cracked them (time between cracking and putting into flip was measured in seconds....no dipping, no flicking boogers on or off them, nothing).


1)
Previously purchased as raw.

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2)
Previously graded by NGC

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3)
Previously graded by NGC

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4)
Previously purchased raw

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5)
Previously graded by NGC

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6)
Previously graded by NGC

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7)
Previously graded by PCI (10 digit, green bordered holder...one of the first morgans I purchased...off ebay to boot)

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8)
Previously graded by NGC

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  • MrSpudMrSpud Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭
    Ummm....66,65,65pl,66
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,548 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like the Peace! Nice stuff.
    "If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64
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  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    64
    58
    66
    65
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    Box of 20
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  • AuroraBorealisAuroraBorealis Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭✭✭
    80-S MS66
    89 MS64+
    98 Genuine
    23 MS65
  • Number 3 looks very familiar? I recall discussion of it I believe.

    Eric
  • DaggoBDaggoB Posts: 333 ✭✭
    64
    64
    64pl
    65
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Number 3 looks very familiar? I recall discussion of it I believe.

    Eric >>



    Not that I recall (I could be wrong). I purchased it in summer of 2003 in a NGC holder and it remained in the SDB most of that time. I may have taken it out for an image but I honestly don't recall doing so.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i don't know for sure, but i'll take a stab at it:

    64, 65, genuine, 66

    obviously not my series. the peace dollar is exceptionally nice.
  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,863 ✭✭✭✭✭
    64PL
    58
    64PL
    65
    My Lincoln Registry
    My Collection of Old Holders

    Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.


  • << <i>

    << <i>Number 3 looks very familiar? I recall discussion of it I believe.

    Eric >>



    Not that I recall (I could be wrong). I purchased it in summer of 2003 in a NGC holder and it remained in the SDB most of that time. I may have taken it out for an image but I honestly don't recall doing so. >>



    I could be mistaken as well. I recall huge images that emphasized the hit to cheek and nose and the ensuing discussion - this within the last year. Prob a different coin.
    All very nice coins - like the 89-P. Looking very original!

    Eric
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bump for the daytime crowd

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • 123cents123cents Posts: 7,178 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I really like the look of that Peace dollar >>



    I also like the look!!!image
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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here are the previous grades and then the PCGS "grades"

    1) Was NGC 64 now PCGS 64
    2) Was raw (63/64) now PCGS 64
    3) Was NGC 64 now PCGS GEN (alt surfaces)..?????
    4) Was raw now PCGS 63
    5) Was NGC 64 now PCGS 64
    6) Was NGC 63 now PCGS 64
    7) Was PCI 63 now PCGS 63
    8) Was NGC 63 now PCGS GEN (cleaned....???)

    When I sent these in, I did it for 2 reasons....first, my voucher was running out image Secondly, I am thinking of paring down some of our "dupes" and such, and things sell a bit easier in PCGS...though, for most of these, it wouldn't (shouldn't) really matter whether NGC or PCGS as they are pretty generic (though, some have some nice toning over the time...nothing monster, but still nice).
    On the 1898, I really thought it would go up a grade as it is so clean. I'll take a closer look when it comes back. I wish they would put what they saw, specifically, other than the GENeric "alt surfaces" or "cleaned". Oh well. Subjective image

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • AuroraBorealisAuroraBorealis Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭✭✭
    All in all looks like you did well... Some nice stuff especially that Peace... From the pics it looks clean to me... image

    ABimage
  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Here are the previous grades and then the PCGS "grades"

    1) Was NGC 64 now PCGS 64
    2) Was raw (63/64) now PCGS 64
    3) Was NGC 64 now PCGS GEN (alt surfaces)..?????
    4) Was raw now PCGS 63
    5) Was NGC 64 now PCGS 64
    6) Was NGC 63 now PCGS 64
    7) Was PCI 63 now PCGS 63
    8) Was NGC 63 now PCGS GEN (cleaned....???)

    When I sent these in, I did it for 2 reasons....first, my voucher was running out image Secondly, I am thinking of paring down some of our "dupes" and such, and things sell a bit easier in PCGS...though, for most of these, it wouldn't (shouldn't) really matter whether NGC or PCGS as they are pretty generic (though, some have some nice toning over the time...nothing monster, but still nice).
    On the 1898, I really thought it would go up a grade as it is so clean. I'll take a closer look when it comes back. I wish they would put what they saw, specifically, other than the GENeric "alt surfaces" or "cleaned". Oh well. Subjective image >>



    Number 1, number 2 and number 4 look nicer than the assigned grades based on the pictures. The others look to be correct. To me number 3 has a look that is very common with Morgans that have surfaces altered so I'm inclined to believe PCGS got it right on that one.
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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Here are the previous grades and then the PCGS "grades"

    1) Was NGC 64 now PCGS 64
    2) Was raw (63/64) now PCGS 64
    3) Was NGC 64 now PCGS GEN (alt surfaces)..?????
    4) Was raw now PCGS 63
    5) Was NGC 64 now PCGS 64
    6) Was NGC 63 now PCGS 64
    7) Was PCI 63 now PCGS 63
    8) Was NGC 63 now PCGS GEN (cleaned....???)

    When I sent these in, I did it for 2 reasons....first, my voucher was running out image Secondly, I am thinking of paring down some of our "dupes" and such, and things sell a bit easier in PCGS...though, for most of these, it wouldn't (shouldn't) really matter whether NGC or PCGS as they are pretty generic (though, some have some nice toning over the time...nothing monster, but still nice).
    On the 1898, I really thought it would go up a grade as it is so clean. I'll take a closer look when it comes back. I wish they would put what they saw, specifically, other than the GENeric "alt surfaces" or "cleaned". Oh well. Subjective image >>



    Number 1, number 2 and number 4 look nicer than the assigned grades based on the pictures. The others look to be correct. To me number 3 has a look that is very common with Morgans that have surfaces altered so I'm inclined to believe PCGS got it right on that one. >>



    Wei, I agree with you on 1, 2 and 4...and that was part of the reason I cracked them as I expect higher grades (price isn't that great between grades, so not a big loss...and I bought them years ago so they were less anyway).
    For #3, it does have a different look, but I do not have much experience in knowing "altered surfaces" and would like to hear what it may mean regarding this coin. Thoughts?

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment



  • << <i>Thoughts? >>



    For me re #3, the fields look clean and yet odd.

    Eric

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