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CoinflipCoinflip Posts: 850 ✭✭✭
my experiment image
Like to get some other opinions on how these may grade out, Thanks in advance
P.S. PLZ DECIDE your practical GRADES BEFORE VIEWING REPLYS! image


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    PatchesPatches Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭
    Top coin MS63, bottom coin AU58
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    LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image They are still not MS coins.
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    bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,359 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ms64,au58
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    PatchesPatches Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭


    << <i>image They are still not MS coins. >>



    Curious why you say this for the top coin? I see nothing to say otherwise.
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    NotSureNotSure Posts: 3,053 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>image They are still not MS coins. >>



    Curious why you say this for the top coin? I see nothing to say otherwise. >>



    There is very visible wear, even to the untrained eye. This is not my series, not close, and the wear on Liberty's left hand on the top coin, moreso on the second coin, with wear on the breast and hand, for starters.

    Does the OP want the forum to grade all his raw Walkers?

    I'll come up with something.
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    CoinflipCoinflip Posts: 850 ✭✭✭


    << <i>
    Does the OP want the forum to grade all his raw Walkers? >>


    This was a grading experiment, and I have to admit the 2nd coin looks better the second go around next to the top coin, and Id bet the top coin would look even better next to a few 66s image get the hint



    << <i>Where did you get these, if you don't mind me asking? >>


    Looking to thin my collection out
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    WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 10,324 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Top coin looks like it could be a 63 or 64 just by the images alone but the bottom coin has wear and I'd call it a 58.

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    WoodenJeffersonWoodenJefferson Posts: 6,491 ✭✭✭✭
    image I've seen #2 somewhere before.

    Remember this, we are grading pictures of coins, not the actual coins.
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    PatchesPatches Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭
    Okay, thanks...walkers are not my series and was trying to learn. I still don't see the wear, I have more education to do.
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    LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>image They are still not MS coins. >>



    Curious why you say this for the top coin? I see nothing to say otherwise. >>



    Referring back to the first pair as he is showing one of the coins in both groups.

    BTW grade number one in this post as over exposed and slightly weak on the focus.
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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 12,112 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Albeit it's a tad over exposed, making it even tougher to grade from the photo, but I'm betting the top coin is
    not only MS, but probably at or near the gem level.
    The bottom coin appears to be ~AU53.

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    JBNJBN Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭✭✭
    65+
    55
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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,619 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not worth grading
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    PatchesPatches Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Not worth grading >>



    quite snobbish
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    halfhunterhalfhunter Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭
    Top - 65

    Bottom - 55-58 . . . or a very light strike, probably dipped. Can't tell without the coin in-hand.

    Just my WAG . . .

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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 12,112 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A mint state '46P DDR walking lib half not is worth grading? XF's have sold for ~$100.
    I don't even see records at Heritage for an Unc DDR half.

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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,619 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Not worth grading >>



    quite snobbish >>



    Really? I call it financially prudent. I have a short set in a Dansco album in choice BU that I say the same about...
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    halfhunterhalfhunter Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭


    << <i>A mint state '46P DDR walking lib half not is worth grading? XF's have sold for ~$100.
    I don't even see records at Heritage for an Unc DDR half. >>



    WOW . . . I'm kicking myself for not looking closer. image

    Good eye Walkerguy ! ! !

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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,619 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>A mint state '46P DDR walking lib half not is worth grading? XF's have sold for ~$100.
    I don't even see records at Heritage for an Unc DDR half. >>



    Like the rest of us would recognize that variety... image
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    DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,040 ✭✭✭✭✭
    63
    55
    When in doubt, don't.
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    PatchesPatches Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Not worth grading >>



    quite snobbish >>



    Really? I call it financially prudent. I have a short set in a Dansco album in choice BU that I say the same about... >>



    The OP didn't ask if they should professionally grade them. The asked our opinion on the grade.
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    CoinflipCoinflip Posts: 850 ✭✭✭
    thx guyz I wanted to test the waters on my grades and also after watching a show some nights ago on how our brains are prepped in saying one way or another I wanted to do an experiment.
    I've always wondered why if I send a coin that looks MS65 to grade it ends up being a 65 but If I send it with a batch of 6 identical coins, that very coin ends up being a 64 because it may have been on the lower end and the others were definitely 65s but better shape ( as in 65A or +)

    ...thus swinging it to the 64( when it in fact may have been a 65c) And the same goes with if I sent that coin in with some dog graded coins, it just might make a 64, because the graders eyes are being swayed towards lower grades.

    Here I posted the same bottom coin in (2) threads and it looks better in the second thread following the higher graded coin, (then had it following the lower graded coin) but it didn't matter too much since most of you saw it once before already and formed an opinion already.

    Thanks
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    RollermanRollerman Posts: 1,908 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Top coin looks like it could be a 63 or 64 just by the images alone but the bottom coin has wear and I'd call it a 58. >>



    Yep! I agree!
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    robkoolrobkool Posts: 5,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1. MS64+...
    2. AU58...
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    MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,739 ✭✭✭✭✭
    64 IMO the mark on the neck will keep it from 65, since it is in a prime focal area.
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    ModCrewmanModCrewman Posts: 4,054 ✭✭✭✭✭
    63 and 58 from me.
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    yellowkidyellowkid Posts: 5,486
    image and that 58 is being generous.
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    gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    63
    55

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