How did the "Joshua and Ally Walsh" pedigree disappear on this 1877 IH PCGS MS65RD label?
shylock
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The 1877 IH PCGS MS65RD that sold for $29,900 in the memorable Ally/Walsh FUN sale of January 4th, 2006.
Now it's a no-name label, with the same cert#, in the upcoming CSNS Heritage Sale.
Under what circumstances can PCGS erase the pedigree from their label, yet keep the same cert # ?
(My only guess is it can only be done by the original submitter, in this case Ally/Walsh.)
The two coins, in case you don't think they're the same:
Ally/Walsh Jan 2006, CSNS May 2007.
Now it's a no-name label, with the same cert#, in the upcoming CSNS Heritage Sale.
Under what circumstances can PCGS erase the pedigree from their label, yet keep the same cert # ?
(My only guess is it can only be done by the original submitter, in this case Ally/Walsh.)
The two coins, in case you don't think they're the same:
Ally/Walsh Jan 2006, CSNS May 2007.
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-Paul
I would think PCGS would do it for a reholder and request.
They still get the money and the database doesn't change (same cert #), right?
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<< <i>I bought a few of the large cents with the walsh pedigree. I heard later that it is a pseudonym. >>
IIRC, the name is a tribute to the grandchildren of the owner of the set. He has in the past posted here under the name, Joshua. He and I had a couple of common interests (both numismatic and professional) in the past.
Some pedigrees are meaningful and others are not. Often, it is in the judgment of the new owner that it matters most.
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<< <i>I have some Mercs with the Joshua II pedigree. I like them and would never consider having them reholdered. >>
I could not agree with you more.
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jim
In most of these cases, the coins were in the Ford collection for decades and were owned by Mr. Wiseman for 6 months or a year.
We had the coins reslabbed with the Ford pedigree which we thought was more meaningful.
<< <i>We bought a couple of coins in Heritage's FUN auction of the Troy Wiseman sale that were ex Ford (though not described as such in the Heritage catalog) which had Troy Wiseman on the PCGS label.
In most of these cases, the coins were in the Ford collection for decades and were owned by Mr. Wiseman for 6 months or a year.
We had the coins reslabbed with the Ford pedigree which we thought was more meaningful. >>
Kind of like Mr Contursi calling the Carter specimen, the "Contursi 1794 dollar"
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<< <i>We bought a couple of coins in Heritage's FUN auction of the Troy Wiseman sale that were ex Ford (though not described as such in the Heritage catalog) which had Troy Wiseman on the PCGS label.
In most of these cases, the coins were in the Ford collection for decades and were owned by Mr. Wiseman for 6 months or a year.
We had the coins reslabbed with the Ford pedigree which we thought was more meaningful. >>
Indeed, that is only right and proper!
<< <i>All I know is that they obliged in removing the annoying 'Eliasberg' off many of mine. Thank goodness. >>
<< <i>Answers make sense, but the same cert. number??
Reholdering has never changed the cert number.
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