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Whizzing will have an unnatural luster that doesn't look "right" when rotated under a good light. There is usually a build up of metal next to the devices.
What are thought at first by many to be hairlines on MS coins are in many cases especially on professionally graded coins are die polish lines. If there is whizzing it it unlikely to ever make it into a problem free holder.
Hairlines are generally long (relatively speaking), and parallel. Whizzed surfaces, to me anyway, generally appear grainy and the luster unnatural.
I will also add the only time I've seen where wheel marks and metal build up on a whizzed surface are apparent are in photos of microscope images. These are not apparent to me with a 5X loupe.
<< <i>Hairlines are generally long (relatively speaking), and parallel. Whizzed surfaces, to me anyway, generally appear grainy and the luster unnatural.
I will also add the only time I've seen where wheel marks and metal build up on a whizzed surface are apparent are in photos of microscope images. These are not apparent to me with a 5X loupe. >>
I agree. And I'll add it is often difficult to detect from photos but is obvious in hand.
In another thread on this topic I showed images of an 1870 IHC in an old ANACS slab, declared to be whizzed. If you saw the coin in hand you would instantly agree. The luster is very unnatural and irregular. Yet most forum members felt it was not whizzed and was probably 63/64-ish. Lance.
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An 'unc' whizzed coin will look like an ms67, but upon close examination, the wheel marks will be very obvious.
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Whizzed surfaces, to me anyway, generally appear grainy and the luster unnatural.
I will also add the only time I've seen where wheel marks and metal build up on a whizzed surface are apparent are in photos of microscope images. These are not apparent to me with a 5X loupe.
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hairlines from circulation are random. they go in many different directions and are different in size.
hairlines from cleaning usually are the same and in the same direction.
hope this helps.
<< <i>Hairlines are generally long (relatively speaking), and parallel.
Whizzed surfaces, to me anyway, generally appear grainy and the luster unnatural.
I will also add the only time I've seen where wheel marks and metal build up on a whizzed surface are apparent are in photos of microscope images. These are not apparent to me with a 5X loupe. >>
I agree. And I'll add it is often difficult to detect from photos but is obvious in hand.
In another thread on this topic I showed images of an 1870 IHC in an old ANACS slab, declared to be whizzed. If you saw the coin in hand you would instantly agree. The luster is very unnatural and irregular. Yet most forum members felt it was not whizzed and was probably 63/64-ish.
Lance.