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pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
I just lost a coin to a sniper on the HA Weekly Internet Auction. Got a text with 1 second to go, so there was nothing I could do.

My question: how long has sniping HA been possible? And what sniping services can snipe HA?

I use esnipe for eBay, but they don't do HA, so I never thought it was possible.

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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    i've definitely read about heritage sniping in previous threads. i don't recall much about the software but the threads should be easily searchable.
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  • SaorAlbaSaorAlba Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yup, have done it, and also have been a victim of it.
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  • TAMU15TAMU15 Posts: 577 ✭✭
    Gavelsnipe.com heritage owns it but it also works on eBay.
  • swhuckswhuck Posts: 546 ✭✭✭
    Not that it matters a whole lot at this point, but the bid that won the lot in question was placed through our site 49 seconds before the end of the auction. There was no sniper program involved.

    We have long gotten more bids right at the end of our internet auctions than at any other time, so what you experienced is by no means unusual (and yes, it has happened to me). Emailed outbid notices can be delayed by a couple of minutes at the end of an auction. It doesn't surprise me much that texts would be delayed as well, although I've never tried to test those.
    Sincerely,

    Stewart Huckaby
    mailto:stewarth@HA.com
    ------------------------------------------
    Heritage Auctions
    Heritage Auctions

    2801 W. Airport Freeway

    Dallas, Texas 75261

    Phone: 1-800-US-COINS, x1355
    Heritage Auctions
  • Tallpaul000Tallpaul000 Posts: 193 ✭✭
    With that info, maybe people should be using a sniping program?
  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Only way I win is usually to bid way more than it's worth.image

    BTW Thanks for the book in today's mail from Heritage.image
  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes I would like to know what program can snipe HA. Would want to use it.

    I like to snipe, as its a nice way to manage auctions and stay within a budget. If you lose a lot you can go snipe something else with the money.
    Investor
  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Only way I win is usually to bid way more than it's worth.image

    BTW Thanks for the book in today's mail from Heritage.image >>



    Bidding full retail or more may open you up to a shill......
    Investor
  • jomjom Posts: 3,490 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>With that info, maybe people should be using a sniping program? >>



    Maybe what they really should be doing is placing their max bids in as late as possible and letting it go. If you put you true max in does it matter whether you were sniped?

    jom
  • ebaybuyerebaybuyer Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭
    seems that any auction with a predetermined end time, should be "snipe-able" as crazy as it sounds, the winning bidder is the one who bids the most, not the one who bids last.
    regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Not that it matters a whole lot at this point, but the bid that won the lot in question was placed through our site 49 seconds before the end of the auction. There was no sniper program involved.

    We have long gotten more bids right at the end of our internet auctions than at any other time, so what you experienced is by no means unusual (and yes, it has happened to me). Emailed outbid notices can be delayed by a couple of minutes at the end of an auction. It doesn't surprise me much that texts would be delayed as well, although I've never tried to test those. >>


    Stewart,

    Thanks for the comment. The text arrived right at 11:00 Eastern and came in two parts. The second part said "Is left", which I took to be 1 second. But after checking it again once you posted here, that is a capital I not a 1 (I compared the fonts). So now I am completely confused.

    But yes, I should have put in my max bid initially. I just entered it the first day and forgot about it.

    Another thing that was strange to me was that my bid was $400 and the webpage reported that the next bid was $410. I always thought the next bid after $400 would be $425. That also threw me off.
  • ConstantineConstantine Posts: 2,369 ✭✭✭
    While I snipe on eBay and it has helped to get some deals, I personally wish that somehow sniping Heritage was not possible.
  • swhuckswhuck Posts: 546 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Another thing that was strange to me was that my bid was $400 and the webpage reported that the next bid was $410. I always thought the next bid after $400 would be $425. That also threw me off. >>



    That's actually a change we instituted for Internet auctions (only) about 6 months ago because we wanted more granularity in the increments. If you'd been bidding in a Signature auction, where we need to take floor bidding into account, the next bid would have been $425.
    Sincerely,

    Stewart Huckaby
    mailto:stewarth@HA.com
    ------------------------------------------
    Heritage Auctions
    Heritage Auctions

    2801 W. Airport Freeway

    Dallas, Texas 75261

    Phone: 1-800-US-COINS, x1355
    Heritage Auctions
  • swhuckswhuck Posts: 546 ✭✭✭
    It is quite true that the winner is whover bids most, and not whoever bids last, so, FWIW, I'm a believer in putting your max bids as *early* as you know what they are. If you wait, you might lose a tiebreaker with someone who placed his bid earlier.
    Sincerely,

    Stewart Huckaby
    mailto:stewarth@HA.com
    ------------------------------------------
    Heritage Auctions
    Heritage Auctions

    2801 W. Airport Freeway

    Dallas, Texas 75261

    Phone: 1-800-US-COINS, x1355
    Heritage Auctions


  • << <i>Not that it matters a whole lot at this point, but the bid that won the lot in question was placed through our site 49 seconds before the end of the auction. There was no sniper program involved.

    We have long gotten more bids right at the end of our internet auctions than at any other time, so what you experienced is by no means unusual (and yes, it has happened to me). Emailed outbid notices can be delayed by a couple of minutes at the end of an auction. It doesn't surprise me much that texts would be delayed as well, although I've never tried to test those. >>




    ....can sniping programs be used with heritage auction software???

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  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,467 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you trust Heritage, just put in your max bid early and be done with it... if you get an invoice later, great... if not, then someone else wanted it more image

    I am very comfortable leaving max bids with certain auction houses, but with others I wouldn't think of it!

  • daOnlyBGdaOnlyBG Posts: 1,060 ✭✭


    << <i>I am very comfortable leaving max bids with certain auction houses, but with others I wouldn't think of it! >>


    Which ones would you avoid leaving max bids with? I'm trying to win coins in auctions, but sadly, my degree of success has been somewhat limited. Is there something about a particular auction house that turns you off instantly from putting your max bid down?
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  • FHcoinFHcoin Posts: 6 ✭✭


    << <i>If you trust Heritage, just put in your max bid early and be done with it >>



    I have no problem trusting Heritage, but see two other reasons to still snipe ...

    - avoiding early competition with indecisive bidders that will bump their bid multiple times as long as they have another bidder above them

    - not calling added attention by elevating the price early. I believe higher early prices attract more looks than items with prices that hang lower for longer
  • okiedudeokiedude Posts: 648 ✭✭✭
    While we are on the subject of Heritage, why is there shipping so erratic? I won $6k of coins in their late April large auction, paid within 4 days(PMO'S). It's been showing as paid for about 10 days now, but not even shipped yet? In between that I've won a single lot in each of their Internet Sun./Tues. auctions, I've received both of those coins, one I received before I even sent them the money for it.
    I've seen this pattern before and find it confusing/inefficient?
    Sigh.
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