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Hypothetical - 1895 Morgan Buiness Strike Pricing

jmcu12jmcu12 Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭
Assumptions:

The 12,000 mintage actually happened and are not an accounting mistake.
All 12,000 still exist today, they were not melted.
All would grade MS62 at PCGS or NGC. None higher none lower.


What would they be worth in today's market?

Also assuming they were found in 12 original 1000 count bags - how much would you pay for just the bag?


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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,209 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Assumptions:

    The 12,000 mintage actually happened and are not an accounting mistake.
    All 12,000 still exist today, they were not melted.
    All would grade MS62 at PCGS or NGC. None higher none lower.


    What would they be worth in today's market?

    Also assuming they were found in 12 original 1000 count bags - how much would you pay for just the bag? >>



    One bag out of 12 existing? All unc? Probably $100 per coin.
  • ianrussellianrussell Posts: 2,498 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Assumptions:

    The 12,000 mintage actually happened and are not an accounting mistake.
    All 12,000 still exist today, they were not melted.
    All would grade MS62 at PCGS or NGC. None higher none lower.


    What would they be worth in today's market?

    Also assuming they were found in 12 original 1000 count bags - how much would you pay for just the bag? >>



    One bag out of 12 existing? All unc? Probably $100 per coin. >>



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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm in at $150 each.
    When in doubt, don't.
  • ianrussellianrussell Posts: 2,498 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm in at $150 each. >>



    Wait, if we're going to have an auction...
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  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,311 ✭✭✭✭
    how many 1903-O bags showed up in the 1960's? This may be a good indication

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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>how many 1903-O bags showed up in the 1960's? This may be a good indication >>

    David Bowers gave a range of 60 to 350 in his 2-volume Silver Dollars Encyclopedia.
    When in doubt, don't.
  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,160 ✭✭✭✭✭
    << What would they be worth in today's market? >>

    I would guess around $2500 to $3000 each. If the entire mintage survived, they would likely be considerably less scarce than the 1893-S, but the popularity of the date would assure a premium price.

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  • stealerstealer Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭✭
    Initial prices will be sky high and then taper down, just like with those 20th Anniversary ASE's.
  • shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If I owned the bag, I'd keep 5 and melt the rest or keep 5 and run the rest through a rock tumbler, so there would only be 5 uncs. image
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  • AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    IMHO.

    This exercise is meaningless without an assumed demand rate, which I think is the real question anyway. I would say that if such a hoard materialized, the pent up demand of wanting to own an 1895 Proof (much like the 09-S VDB) would still make the coins worth more than some of the better CC's.



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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,942 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>IMHO.

    This exercise is meaningless without an assumed demand rate, which I think is the real question anyway. I would say that if such a hoard materialized, the pent up demand of wanting to own an 1895 Proof (much like the 09-S VDB) would still make the coins worth more than some of the better CC's. >>



    Yes, this.

    Demand is there as every Morgan collector needs one and would be out trying to get one. Me included.

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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd want one too.

    A great related question to this thread is, what would happen to 1895 proof prices if thousands of business strikes suddenly appeared?
    When in doubt, don't.
  • renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 3,830 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If I owned the bag, I'd keep 5 and melt the rest or keep 5 and run the rest through a rock tumbler, so there would only be 5 uncs. image >>



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  • HoledandCreativeHoledandCreative Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would like 1 holed one please. PL with a hole would be just fine.
  • IrishMikeyIrishMikey Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭
    I would think a business strike Morgan $ issue with a total mintage of 12,000 pieces
    would gravitate towards the $5,000 to $10,000 price range. There is NO WAY that
    all 12,000 coins would grade MS-62 -- the registry set guys would lose their minds!
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,392 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i><< What would they be worth in today's market? >>

    I would guess around $2500 to $3000 each. If the entire mintage survived, they would likely be considerably less scarce than the 1893-S, but the popularity of the date would assure a premium price. >>



    I thought the 1893-S was estimated to be around 12,000 survivors.
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  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,645 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting question. You would have to have a "well managed promotion" and want to set the offering price high enough, but at a number where you could still sell most of them without making your promotion look stale. I'm thinking around $5K. Now remember, you can't blow them all out at the end or you will get your customer base POed. I'm assuming you want to stay in business for the long haul.

    I got a recent advertisement discounting a bunch of product I had bought awhile back. Said seller was discounting himself, as he was the only supplier. I wasn't very happy about it.

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