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1810 Bust half (w/grading poll)

lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 44,209 ✭✭✭✭✭
My tenth purchase for the new 19th century VF-XF Basic Type Set.

Actually, there was an earlier tenth purchase of an 1856-O half, but that poll pointed out some marks I had blindly overlooked,
so the seller let me back out of the deal. As a courtesy to him (and since he had several other coins I liked anyway),
I bought this piece instead, even though it cost about twice as much as the Seated half was going to.
I also bought an inexpensive Seated dime from the same source, which I'll post in the next poll.

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 44,209 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For the record, I went with the neutral option in the poll this time.

    Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.

  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    VF20
    All coins kept in bank vaults.
    PCGS Registries
    Box of 20
    SeaEagleCoins: 11/14/54-4/5/12. Miss you Larry!
  • LogPotatoLogPotato Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭✭
    Im at 20
  • I like that a lot! I grade it VF 25. Nice pick up.
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  • BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,192 ✭✭✭✭
    Said 30, but could be 25. Too nice for 20.

    A lot of the lost detail on the obverse is due to a weak strike, IMO.
    Lurking and learning since 2010. Full-time professional numismatist based in SoCal.
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 44,209 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Overton-105, I'm told, though I have no idea how common or scarce that might be, nor do I particularly care. I sold my Overton book a while back because one, I got good money for it, and two, it was too much like Chinese algebra for me. I found myself not caring terribly much about the varieties, anyway. A little bit, maybe, but not enough. (Sorry, Bust Half Nuts- I'm just a generic type collector.)

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  • jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I voted 25...105 is noted for having very little or no milling, "specimens with full milling are a Scarce R3, without milling R2..."
    I like that one alot LM, variety guy or not, it is a cool one with that extra long stripe in the shield !
  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VF-35 ... nice coin.

    Obverse is weak as is typical, but that's okay.
    Numismatist Ordinaire
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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 44,209 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've pulled a small subterfuge on y'all by not mentioning that this coin happens to be in TPG plastic.

    If we get another four or five votes in the poll before I crawl my weary carcass off to bed, I'll reveal that.

    Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.

  • lavalava Posts: 3,286 ✭✭✭
    Attractive.
    I brake for ear bars.
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,894 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Holy no-hole! Not bad at all.

    I said 25.
    Lance.
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 44,209 ✭✭✭✭✭
    OK, 22 votes in the poll now, so here you go.

    No peekie at the linkie until you've voted in the poll, now! image

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  • OKbustchaserOKbustchaser Posts: 5,556 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Overton-105, I'm told, though I have no idea how common or scarce that might be, nor do I particularly care. I sold my Overton book a while back because one, I got good money for it, and two, it was too much like Chinese algebra for me. I found myself not caring terribly much about the varieties, anyway. A little bit, maybe, but not enough. (Sorry, Bust Half Nuts- I'm just a generic type collector.) >>



    It is indeed a 105, and a fairly nice one. I voted VF-30, but I could understand a grade to either side.
    Just because I'm old doesn't mean I don't love to look at a pretty bust.
  • kookoox10kookoox10 Posts: 538 ✭✭✭
    Much better than a silly seated lib. I'm in at VF35, while the reverse is weak, there's adequate details.
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 30,009 ✭✭✭✭✭
    im in with the vf 20 as well. if ya get a vf 25 thats even better image
  • VF 20.
  • ModCrewmanModCrewman Posts: 4,045 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Felt really dumb with my 40 vote until I saw the actual grade. image
  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,637 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VF30. Now can I look?
  • sniocsusniocsu Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭
    VF20
    And naturally I am way off
  • TennesseeDaveTennesseeDave Posts: 4,822 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I said 30, and if sent to Pcgs that's still my guess. I like it though.
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  • jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I said 30, and if sent to Pcgs that's still my guess. I like it though. >>



    I agree, originally i pegged it 25, but the slab pic makes it look a bit deeper struck, with a bit more skin...keep it in that OWAH M'Lord, and you'll have a ready buyer/swapper here !
  • TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,816 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am surprised at the votes on this coin. I am usually in line with most but on this one, I am barely a 20. I guess I'll learn something here.

    Tom

  • MaineJimMaineJim Posts: 802 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks about 30 to 35. I like it.

    Maine_Jim
  • tightbudgettightbudget Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭
    I'm going with 25 give or take a bit
  • 410a410a Posts: 1,325
    Nice coin VF 30 ...........
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 44,209 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>105 is noted for having very little or no milling, "specimens with full milling are a Scarce R3, without milling R2..." >>



    OK, so what's "milling", as used in this context? image

    I know what it means in an early coinage context, from my medieval Darkside wanderings: a milled coin is a machine-struck coin, as opposed to a hammered coin.

    But what specifically is the "milling" referred to here?

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  • TennesseeDaveTennesseeDave Posts: 4,822 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I always thought milling was similar to dentils.

    edited for spelling
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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,894 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>OK, so what's "milling", as used in this context? image >>


    The finished edge/rim, often referring to the denticles of CBH's
    Lance.
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 44,209 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for clarifying that, Lance.

    So no milling on this means I have an R2 coin.

    Oh well. I was sorta hoping I could participate in the "R3 and above CBH" thread.

    Not with this one, I guess.

    Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.

  • GABGAB Posts: 641
    Here is one with milling, but not as much "meat".
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    Golf time!!
  • goldengolden Posts: 10,191 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I said 30, and if sent to Pcgs that's still my guess. I like it though. >>

    image
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 44,209 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Here is one with milling, but not as much "meat". >>

    Maybe not as much detail as mine, but it's got that "CircCam" contrast I like, so I'm a bit jealous!

    I guess I have "denticle envy", too. image

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