PCGS variety attribution?

BAJJERFAN · March 9, 2013 2:22PM

If a variety has its own cert number i.e. the 1946 DDR walker, is there still an extra charge to attribute it? Anyone know from experience?

jonathanb · March 9, 2013 3:18PM

I don't know the general rule, but for the 1946 DDR 50c specifically I can say from experience that there is no extra charge for that one.

DennisH · March 9, 2013 3:18PM

I have many personal experiences with this particular variety. You do not have to pay a variety attribution fee for this variety if you submit it as coin #6632.

19Lyds · March 9, 2013 3:39PM

Think of it this way Bajjer, If you send the coin in and request an "FS" number, expect to pay an additional $24

Ex:

The 1972/72 Lincoln has its own PCGS coin number (2950). I can submit a 1972/72 using coin number 2950 and get the Doubled Die notation on the slab holder.

If I take the exact same coin and submit it using coin number 38013, I'll have to pay the additional $24 to get the Doubled Die FS-101 on the slab.

Establshed varieties which have their own 4 digit coin numbers can get graded and notated for only the grading fee's. Coins which have either a 5 or 6 figure coin number "require" the $24 attribution fee because they are Cherry Picker Guide coins. Of course, not all 5 digit numbers apply since the CAM/DCAM attributes get either an 8 or a 9 added to the coin number. But the "base" coin number is what really counts.

Edited to add, every coin in a slab has it's own "cert number" but specific coins have specific and unique "coin numbers".

lkeigwin · March 10, 2013 12:34AM

Look up the PCGS number. If it's four digits then it is a major variety and there is no attribution fee. If it is 5 or 6 digits then you'd have to pay for attribution.

The '46 WLH DDR is #6632. The label will read "1946 Doubled Die Reverse". No extra charge.

If you want the label to say "1946 DDR FS-801 (FS-011)" then submit it as PCGS coin number 145152 and pay the attribution fee.

Yeah, it's a little odd for this coin.
Lance.

BAJJERFAN · March 10, 2013 12:42AM

Thanks for the responses. I sorta figured that's how it was and just wanted to be sure.

LeeBone · March 10, 2013 1:02AM

I shoulda asked some questions on the boards long ago as I paid the attribution fee on coins that didn`t need it.

Live and learn

BAJJERFAN · March 10, 2013 1:04AM

<< I shoulda asked some questions on the boards long ago as I paid the attribution fee on coins that didn`t need it.

Live and learn

>>

They should have refunded your money.

LeeBone · March 10, 2013 1:10AM

<< 

<< I shoulda asked some questions on the boards long ago as I paid the attribution fee on coins that didn`t need it.

Live and learn

>>

They should have refunded your money. >>

Nope.

mozin · March 10, 2013 1:35AM

There are some PCGS numbered coins that have more than four digits, and still are free. Examples would be 1836 Bust Half Dollars #39955 1836/1336, and #39958 Bar Dot. Look at the PCGS POP reports, anything with a beige background will cost you extra money for the PCGS number. Those shown with a blue or light blue background are free. Don't forget to click on the plus sign to expand the PCGS number offerings.

lkeigwin · March 10, 2013 4:22AM

Interesting, Mozin. There seems to be some confusion about this. The info I got was from Customer Service. In fact I wrote to them two weeks ago about a bar dot variety that wasn't noted on the label. I asked about getting it annotated. PCGS's reply was:

"If you are not looking to get the coin regraded and only attributed then the fees you will pay is the variety attribution fee, the reholder fee and shipping and handling."

Maybe that was a generic answer and PCGS did not actually look into this specific variety?

When I have written to PCGS about major varieties not noted I learned they would reholder them with the correct varieties at no charge. PCGS even sent them through Secure Plus.
Lance.

edited for P.S. I was charged the variety fee for reholdering a PCGS 1836/1336 that wasn't noted. This was in June 2012.

pharmer · March 10, 2013 5:17AM

Yesterday I was looking at the invoice for my last ANACS variety submission. Slabbing was $10 and variety "verification" was another $1. I have many FS varieties to slab but don't want to pay PCGS $24 extra for looking at it and saying yep, you're right, it's FS-whatever, that'll be $24. Now if these were non-FS varieties that required researching CONECA or Wexler et al, that would be different. But FS varieties are cut and dried, and there aren't that many of them anyway.

See the $24 for verifying Overton or VAM or other more obscure varieties may be appropriate, but charging $24 to verify what I already know jusat prevents me from slabbing varieties with PCGS, and I've submitted solely to PCGS over the years except for varieties. They're charging too much for this.

mozin · March 10, 2013 6:45AM

<< Interesting, Mozin. There seems to be some confusion about this. The info I got was from Customer Service. In fact I wrote to them two weeks ago about a bar dot variety that wasn't noted on the label. I asked about getting it annotated. PCGS's reply was:

"If you are not looking to get the coin regraded and only attributed then the fees you will pay is the variety attribution fee, the reholder fee and shipping and handling."

Maybe that was a generic answer and PCGS did not actually look into this specific variety?

When I have written to PCGS about major varieties not noted I learned they would reholder them with the correct varieties at no charge. PCGS even sent them through Secure Plus.
Lance.

edited for P.S. I was charged the variety fee for reholdering a PCGS 1836/1336 that wasn't noted. This was in June 2012. >>

I did a Bar Dot correction last August, and I did an 1836/1336 last year in February, both under mechanical error. What puzzles me is why it still costs $24 for the 1836 Beaded Reverse O-106, the only variety with the Beaded Reverse. I think this one should also be free. Including the Beaded Reverse O-106 would then mean all the varieties in the PCGS Registry Set "Bust Half Dollars Complete Variety, including Reeded Edge" would be free.

illini420 · March 10, 2013 7:11AM

I just sent a coin in for variety attribution and it was the only one on the order. Will cost about $70 total with the fees and round trip shipping!!!

And I did the work of attributing the coin already!! They only must confirm the attribution.

I've always thought variety confirmation should be maybe half price (if you were in fact correct). If that were the case I would send in many more for "confirmation" vs. attribution.

lkeigwin · March 10, 2013 7:27AM

<< I just sent a coin in for variety attribution and it was the only one on the order. Will cost about $70 total with the fees and round trip shipping!!!

And I did the work of attributing the coin already!! They only must confirm the attribution.

I've always thought variety confirmation should be maybe half price (if you were in fact correct). If that were the case I would send in many more for "confirmation" vs. attribution. >>

I agree. Sounds like a great idea.
Lance.

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