Right, but there is not much of an excuse to have an expensive item shipped to your home is my point. The idea that people can't do it because they aren't home doesn't seem to be an issue. And say by chance someone rips off the slip and gets the coin, the buyer files and says no delivery, you have confirmation it was delivered and are covered.
At least that is how it should work in theory.
I just sold something expensive and have no po boxes checked, I look up who bought it and it is a dentist shipping to his dentist office with only 1 feedback. Did he have a po box? I don't know but people can go around po boxes if they want the coin.
<< <i>I just sold something expensive and have no po boxes checked, I look up who bought it and it is a dentist shipping to his dentist office with only 1 feedback. Did he have a po box? I don't know but people can go around po boxes if they want the coin. >>
People get PO boxes specifically because that's where they want to get their coins delivered. If that doesn't work for you, that's your option, I suppose.
<< <i>I just sold something expensive and have no po boxes checked, I look up who bought it and it is a dentist shipping to his dentist office with only 1 feedback. Did he have a po box? I don't know but people can go around po boxes if they want the coin. >>
People get PO boxes specifically because that's where they want to get their coins delivered. If that doesn't work for you, that's your option, I suppose.[q/]
People get PMB's specifically because that's where they want to get their coins delivered. If that doesn't work for the OP, that's his option, I suppose. FIXED
<< <i>People get PMB's specifically because that's where they want to get their coins delivered. If that doesn't work for the OP, that's his option, I suppose. >>
Sure- why not? I had a PMB once because that's what worked for me.
<< <i>People get PMB's specifically because that's where they want to get their coins delivered. If that doesn't work for the OP, that's his option, I suppose. >>
Sure- why not? I had a PMB once because that's what worked for me. >>
<< <i>of a bullion ( ms-70 Buffalo Gold 1 oz ) related item and the person who buys it now just signed up to ebay YESTERDAY, has zero transactions etc? >>
you honor it >>
because lying is dishonorable and honoring the sale is honorable
OTOH, I'd be just as nervous. If it is confirmed, I would have shipped and been holding my breath.
And I just recently had an ebay gold sale to someone with a worse ebay name than that, and left some ridiculously worded feedback, too. Unfortunately, that is business risk on ebay.
<< <i>NO_twilight - " (Happened to me once, not so much as a scammer but a buyer who changed his mind and did a credit card chargeback on a $10k purchase, paypal covered it)."
This is part of the problem as opposed to being part of the solution. Believing that Paypal indemnifies you or any Paypal user in a situation like this at no cost whatsoever to you is just plain naive. The cost of losses to Paypal are passed along to consumers like you and me, no matter how firmly you may want to deny it. >>
A lot of people know that, but as long as they are made whole they really don't care. Who can blame them? It's equally naive to believe that if I save PP $100K that it will make a practical difference in my fees 6 months down the road. As I suggested earlier, PP should have a venue to review these suspicious events, but it's easier to pay the cost than fix the problem.
"but it's easier to pay the cost than fix the problem" Yes, we all know about O-Care. Bajjer, we're good friends, but this reads like a quote from the former Speaker of the House. I can't even give her the respect of mentioning her name.
<< <i>NO_twilight - " (Happened to me once, not so much as a scammer but a buyer who changed his mind and did a credit card chargeback on a $10k purchase, paypal covered it)."
This is part of the problem as opposed to being part of the solution. Believing that Paypal indemnifies you or any Paypal user in a situation like this at no cost whatsoever to you is just plain naive. The cost of losses to Paypal are passed along to consumers like you and me, no matter how firmly you may want to deny it. >>
A lot of people know that, but as long as they are made whole they really don't care. Who can blame them? It's equally naive to believe that if I save PP $100K that it will make a practical difference in my fees 6 months down the road. As I suggested earlier, PP should have a venue to review these suspicious events, but it's easier to pay the cost than fix the problem. >>
I wish they did, too. You get just some nutty guy with a nutty name leaving equally nutty worded feedback and buying lots of gold and silver makes one wonder if they came into money "the easy way." It'd be nice if there were a "tip line" for situations like that, just in case.
Of course we here have had run-ins with nutty people with money before. I won't name names. So, the situation is not impossible.
<< <i>NO_twilight - " (Happened to me once, not so much as a scammer but a buyer who changed his mind and did a credit card chargeback on a $10k purchase, paypal covered it)."
This is part of the problem as opposed to being part of the solution. Believing that Paypal indemnifies you or any Paypal user in a situation like this at no cost whatsoever to you is just plain naive. The cost of losses to Paypal are passed along to consumers like you and me, no matter how firmly you may want to deny it. >>
As eBay/PayPal have concluded that sellers aren't smart enough to manage their own affairs regarding the payment options they offer and have made it clear that eBay/PayPal are more qualified in this area, I see no reason for sellers not to use whatever protection they provide in order to avoid losses due to scamming buyers.
<< <i>"but it's easier to pay the cost than fix the problem" Yes, we all know about O-Care. Bajjer, we're good friends, but this reads like a quote from the former Speaker of the House. I can't even give her the respect of mentioning her name. >>
That may well be. That seems to be the American way anymore tho.
<< <i>NO_twilight - " (Happened to me once, not so much as a scammer but a buyer who changed his mind and did a credit card chargeback on a $10k purchase, paypal covered it)."
This is part of the problem as opposed to being part of the solution. >>
Considering that PayPal will not tell you anything about the buyer other than the information that comes with the email they send you to let you know a payment was made and nothing at all about the account that the payment was made from, how would you propose that sellers become "part of the solution"?
<< <i>NO_twilight - " (Happened to me once, not so much as a scammer but a buyer who changed his mind and did a credit card chargeback on a $10k purchase, paypal covered it)."
This is part of the problem as opposed to being part of the solution. Believing that Paypal indemnifies you or any Paypal user in a situation like this at no cost whatsoever to you is just plain naive. The cost of losses to Paypal are passed along to consumers like you and me, no matter how firmly you may want to deny it. >>
A lot of people know that, but as long as they are made whole they really don't care. Who can blame them? It's equally naive to believe that if I save PP $100K that it will make a practical difference in my fees 6 months down the road. As I suggested earlier, PP should have a venue to review these suspicious events, but it's easier to pay the cost than fix the problem. >>
I wish they did, too. You get just some nutty guy with a nutty name leaving equally nutty worded feedback and buying lots of gold and silver makes one wonder if they came into money "the easy way." It'd be nice if there were a "tip line" for situations like that, just in case.
Of course we here have had run-ins with nutty people with money before. I won't name names. So, the situation is not impossible. >>
No, you simply notify PP that you are uneasy about the transaction even tho you are covered by PP protection. So if you PP are willing to eat the cost if this goes awry, then I'll plan to ship. Then PP can advise appropriately.
<< <i>NO_twilight - " (Happened to me once, not so much as a scammer but a buyer who changed his mind and did a credit card chargeback on a $10k purchase, paypal covered it)."
This is part of the problem as opposed to being part of the solution. >>
Considering that PayPal will not tell you anything about the buyer other than the information that comes with the email they send you to let you know a payment was made and nothing at all about the account that the payment was made from, how would you propose that sellers become "part of the solution"? >>
Simple answer. I'd have sellers consult with you, as you seem to have so much more valuable information to contribute here to the improvement of the hobby than many others. And just for the sake of giving you something else to debate about: How about if Paypal mandated that ALL users provide sensitive personal information such as Social Security number or photo ID (State Driver's license), the way they have been demanding of some eBay sellers?
<< <i>NO_twilight - " (Happened to me once, not so much as a scammer but a buyer who changed his mind and did a credit card chargeback on a $10k purchase, paypal covered it)."
This is part of the problem as opposed to being part of the solution. >>
Considering that PayPal will not tell you anything about the buyer other than the information that comes with the email they send you to let you know a payment was made and nothing at all about the account that the payment was made from, how would you propose that sellers become "part of the solution"? >>
PayPal does not need to give me that info if THEY use it only to advise me on whether to ship or not.
with zero feedback you know it's not a hijacked account.
OPs only risk, if all papal seller instructions are followed, is a CC chargeback or unauthorized CC charge. This can occur with any buyer, regardless of how long they have been doing business on ebay.
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<< <i>with zero feedback you know it's not a hijacked account.
OPs only risk, if all papal seller instructions are followed, is a CC chargeback or unauthorized CC charge. This can occur with any buyer, regardless of how long they have been doing business on ebay. >>
In this case, wouldn't Paypal eat the loss? Also, doesn't Paypal verify the legitimacy of the cc number used to pay them when a new member signs up?
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<< <i>with zero feedback you know it's not a hijacked account.
OPs only risk, if all papal seller instructions are followed, is a CC chargeback or unauthorized CC charge. This can occur with any buyer, regardless of how long they have been doing business on ebay. >>
In this case, wouldn't Paypal eat the loss? Also, doesn't Paypal verify the legitimacy of the cc number used to pay them when a new member signs up? >>
No, paypal only fights the chargeback on your behalf since the charge was with them, not you directly. If they (really you) lose you eat the loss. Yes, paypal verifies CC at signup, but card number can still be used by a hacker or cardholder can still claim non-receipt, not as described or unauthorized use with his CC company.
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<< <i>Simple answer. I'd have sellers consult with you, as you seem to have so much more valuable information to contribute here to the improvement of the hobby than many others. And just for the sake of giving you something else to debate about: How about if Paypal mandated that ALL users provide sensitive personal information such as Social Security number or photo ID (State Driver's license), the way they have been demanding of some eBay sellers? >>
Okay- so you don't have an answer for how sellers can become part of the solution as you suggested earlier. Got it. Good idea, though- keep up the good work!
Paypal protection for both seller and buyer has one remaining bug. Give the seller the option to not accept CC payments. Option should be available for each item listed.
No Way Out: Stimulus and Money Printing Are the Only Path Left
<< <i>Paypal protection for both seller and buyer has one remaining bug. Give the seller the option to not accept CC payments. Option should be available for each item listed. >>
It actually WAS an option back in the day...however, Ebay has gone overboard on the side of the buyer and now all sellers are forced to accept Paypal and/or credit cards. You can't even state in your listing that you will accept other forms of payment like checks, money orders, or cash. Now, if the buyer OFFERS to pay via an alternative method you can take it... but with the free approval service provided by their current rules, why would they offer to?
<< <i>Simple answer. I'd have sellers consult with you, as you seem to have so much more valuable information to contribute here to the improvement of the hobby than many others. And just for the sake of giving you something else to debate about: How about if Paypal mandated that ALL users provide sensitive personal information such as Social Security number or photo ID (State Driver's license), the way they have been demanding of some eBay sellers? >>
Okay- so you don't have an answer for how sellers can become part of the solution as you suggested earlier. Got it. Good idea, though- keep up the good work! >>
And likewise. Good job of dodging my question, strawman.
<< <i>Paypal protection for both seller and buyer has one remaining bug. Give the seller the option to not accept CC payments. Option should be available for each item listed. >>
It actually WAS an option back in the day...however, Ebay has gone overboard on the side of the buyer and now all sellers are forced to accept Paypal and/or credit cards. You can't even state in your listing that you will accept other forms of payment like checks, money orders, or cash. Now, if the buyer OFFERS to pay via an alternative method you can take it... but with the free approval service provided by their current rules, why would they offer to? >>
On a big $$$ item splitting the saved PP fees by accepting a check or MO can be an incentive for both parties. Obviously, it doesn't work for everyone.
Unfortunately fishguts, your outline of instructions from eBay are of no value here, since the criteria offered by eBay as buyer limiting selections would not have disqualified the buyer mentioned by the OP. This was discussed earlier in the thread, which you apparently overlooked.
<< <i>And just for the sake of giving you something else to debate about: How about if Paypal mandated that ALL users provide sensitive personal information such as Social Security number or photo ID (State Driver's license), the way they have been demanding of some eBay sellers? >>
Okay- so you don't have an answer for how sellers can become part of the solution as you suggested earlier. Got it. Good idea, though- keep up the good work! >>
And likewise. Good job of dodging my question, strawman. >>
I didn't respond to your question because I don't know what info PayPal collects from buyers and sellers these days. Kind of hard for one to tell you what additional info one thinks PayPal should now require unless one knows what is already required. And not responding to your question because I don't have the necessary info to come up with a relevant answer has nothing to do with strawmen. But I'm sure you knew that already.
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At least that is how it should work in theory.
I just sold something expensive and have no po boxes checked, I look up who bought it and it is a dentist shipping to his dentist office with only 1 feedback. Did he have a po box? I don't know but people can go around po boxes if they want the coin.
<< <i>I just sold something expensive and have no po boxes checked, I look up who bought it and it is a dentist shipping to his dentist office with only 1 feedback. Did he have a po box? I don't know but people can go around po boxes if they want the coin. >>
People get PO boxes specifically because that's where they want to get their coins delivered. If that doesn't work for you, that's your option, I suppose.
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<< <i>I just sold something expensive and have no po boxes checked, I look up who bought it and it is a dentist shipping to his dentist office with only 1 feedback. Did he have a po box? I don't know but people can go around po boxes if they want the coin. >>
People get PO boxes specifically because that's where they want to get their coins delivered. If that doesn't work for you, that's your option, I suppose.[q/]
People get PMB's specifically because that's where they want to get their coins delivered. If that doesn't work for the OP, that's his option, I suppose. FIXED
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<< <i>People get PMB's specifically because that's where they want to get their coins delivered. If that doesn't work for the OP, that's his option, I suppose.
Sure- why not? I had a PMB once because that's what worked for me.
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<< <i>People get PMB's specifically because that's where they want to get their coins delivered. If that doesn't work for the OP, that's his option, I suppose.
Sure- why not? I had a PMB once because that's what worked for me. >>
But not likely for MrEarlyGold. .
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<< <i>I would complete the sale and send Registered with RESTRICTED DELIVERY. This requires
a signature of the buyer not the store owner.
bob
Just how much expense does one want to keep adding in order to keep from getting screwed? Better just to pass on the sale.
<< <i> I'd think. >>
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<< <i>of a bullion ( ms-70 Buffalo Gold 1 oz ) related item and the person who buys it now just signed up to ebay YESTERDAY, has zero transactions etc? >>
you honor it >>
because lying is dishonorable and honoring the sale is honorable
OTOH, I'd be just as nervous. If it is confirmed, I would have shipped and been holding my breath.
And I just recently had an ebay gold sale to someone with a worse ebay name than that, and left some ridiculously worded feedback, too. Unfortunately, that is business risk on ebay.
<< <i>NO_twilight - " (Happened to me once, not so much as a scammer but a buyer who changed his mind and did a credit card chargeback on a $10k purchase, paypal covered it)."
This is part of the problem as opposed to being part of the solution. Believing that Paypal indemnifies you or any Paypal user in a situation like this at no cost whatsoever to you is just plain naive. The cost of losses to Paypal are passed along to consumers like you and me, no matter how firmly you may want to deny it. >>
A lot of people know that, but as long as they are made whole they really don't care. Who can blame them? It's equally naive to believe that if I save PP $100K that it will make a practical difference in my fees 6 months down the road. As I suggested earlier, PP should have a venue to review these suspicious events, but it's easier to pay the cost than fix the problem.
Yes, we all know about O-Care.
Bajjer, we're good friends, but this reads like a quote from the former Speaker of the House. I can't even give her the respect of mentioning her name.
"Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
http://www.american-legacy-coins.com
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<< <i>NO_twilight - " (Happened to me once, not so much as a scammer but a buyer who changed his mind and did a credit card chargeback on a $10k purchase, paypal covered it)."
This is part of the problem as opposed to being part of the solution. Believing that Paypal indemnifies you or any Paypal user in a situation like this at no cost whatsoever to you is just plain naive. The cost of losses to Paypal are passed along to consumers like you and me, no matter how firmly you may want to deny it. >>
A lot of people know that, but as long as they are made whole they really don't care. Who can blame them? It's equally naive to believe that if I save PP $100K that it will make a practical difference in my fees 6 months down the road. As I suggested earlier, PP should have a venue to review these suspicious events, but it's easier to pay the cost than fix the problem. >>
I wish they did, too. You get just some nutty guy with a nutty name leaving equally nutty worded feedback and buying lots of gold and silver makes one wonder if they came into money "the easy way." It'd be nice if there were a "tip line" for situations like that, just in case.
Of course we here have had run-ins with nutty people with money before. I won't name names.
<< <i>NO_twilight - " (Happened to me once, not so much as a scammer but a buyer who changed his mind and did a credit card chargeback on a $10k purchase, paypal covered it)."
This is part of the problem as opposed to being part of the solution. Believing that Paypal indemnifies you or any Paypal user in a situation like this at no cost whatsoever to you is just plain naive. The cost of losses to Paypal are passed along to consumers like you and me, no matter how firmly you may want to deny it. >>
As eBay/PayPal have concluded that sellers aren't smart enough to manage their own affairs regarding the payment options they offer and have made it clear that eBay/PayPal are more qualified in this area, I see no reason for sellers not to use whatever protection they provide in order to avoid losses due to scamming buyers.
<< <i>"but it's easier to pay the cost than fix the problem"
Yes, we all know about O-Care.
Bajjer, we're good friends, but this reads like a quote from the former Speaker of the House. I can't even give her the respect of mentioning her name.
That may well be. That seems to be the American way anymore tho.
<< <i>NO_twilight - " (Happened to me once, not so much as a scammer but a buyer who changed his mind and did a credit card chargeback on a $10k purchase, paypal covered it)."
This is part of the problem as opposed to being part of the solution. >>
Considering that PayPal will not tell you anything about the buyer other than the information that comes with the email they send you to let you know a payment was made and nothing at all about the account that the payment was made from, how would you propose that sellers become "part of the solution"?
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<< <i>
<< <i>NO_twilight - " (Happened to me once, not so much as a scammer but a buyer who changed his mind and did a credit card chargeback on a $10k purchase, paypal covered it)."
This is part of the problem as opposed to being part of the solution. Believing that Paypal indemnifies you or any Paypal user in a situation like this at no cost whatsoever to you is just plain naive. The cost of losses to Paypal are passed along to consumers like you and me, no matter how firmly you may want to deny it. >>
A lot of people know that, but as long as they are made whole they really don't care. Who can blame them? It's equally naive to believe that if I save PP $100K that it will make a practical difference in my fees 6 months down the road. As I suggested earlier, PP should have a venue to review these suspicious events, but it's easier to pay the cost than fix the problem. >>
I wish they did, too. You get just some nutty guy with a nutty name leaving equally nutty worded feedback and buying lots of gold and silver makes one wonder if they came into money "the easy way." It'd be nice if there were a "tip line" for situations like that, just in case.
Of course we here have had run-ins with nutty people with money before. I won't name names.
No, you simply notify PP that you are uneasy about the transaction even tho you are covered by PP protection. So if you PP are willing to eat the cost if this goes awry, then I'll plan to ship. Then PP can advise appropriately.
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<< <i>NO_twilight - " (Happened to me once, not so much as a scammer but a buyer who changed his mind and did a credit card chargeback on a $10k purchase, paypal covered it)."
This is part of the problem as opposed to being part of the solution. >>
Considering that PayPal will not tell you anything about the buyer other than the information that comes with the email they send you to let you know a payment was made and nothing at all about the account that the payment was made from, how would you propose that sellers become "part of the solution"? >>
Simple answer. I'd have sellers consult with you, as you seem to have so much more valuable information to contribute here to the improvement of the hobby than many others.
"Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
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<< <i>NO_twilight - " (Happened to me once, not so much as a scammer but a buyer who changed his mind and did a credit card chargeback on a $10k purchase, paypal covered it)."
This is part of the problem as opposed to being part of the solution. >>
Considering that PayPal will not tell you anything about the buyer other than the information that comes with the email they send you to let you know a payment was made and nothing at all about the account that the payment was made from, how would you propose that sellers become "part of the solution"? >>
PayPal does not need to give me that info if THEY use it only to advise me on whether to ship or not.
OPs only risk, if all papal seller instructions are followed, is a CC chargeback or unauthorized CC charge. This can occur with any buyer, regardless of how long they have been doing business on ebay.
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<< <i>with zero feedback you know it's not a hijacked account.
OPs only risk, if all papal seller instructions are followed, is a CC chargeback or unauthorized CC charge. This can occur with any buyer, regardless of how long they have been doing business on ebay. >>
In this case, wouldn't Paypal eat the loss? Also, doesn't Paypal verify the legitimacy of the cc number used to pay them when a new member signs up?
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<< <i>with zero feedback you know it's not a hijacked account.
OPs only risk, if all papal seller instructions are followed, is a CC chargeback or unauthorized CC charge. This can occur with any buyer, regardless of how long they have been doing business on ebay. >>
In this case, wouldn't Paypal eat the loss? Also, doesn't Paypal verify the legitimacy of the cc number used to pay them when a new member signs up? >>
No, paypal only fights the chargeback on your behalf since the charge was with them, not you directly. If they (really you) lose you eat the loss.
Yes, paypal verifies CC at signup, but card number can still be used by a hacker or cardholder can still claim non-receipt, not as described or unauthorized use with his CC company.
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<< <i>Simple answer. I'd have sellers consult with you, as you seem to have so much more valuable information to contribute here to the improvement of the hobby than many others.
Okay- so you don't have an answer for how sellers can become part of the solution as you suggested earlier. Got it. Good idea, though- keep up the good work!
No Way Out: Stimulus and Money Printing Are the Only Path Left
<< <i>Paypal protection for both seller and buyer has one remaining bug. Give the seller the option to not accept CC payments. Option should be available for each item listed. >>
It actually WAS an option back in the day...however, Ebay has gone overboard on the side of the buyer and now all sellers are forced to accept Paypal and/or credit cards. You can't even state in your listing that you will accept other forms of payment like checks, money orders, or cash. Now, if the buyer OFFERS to pay via an alternative method you can take it... but with the free approval service provided by their current rules, why would they offer to?
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<< <i>Simple answer. I'd have sellers consult with you, as you seem to have so much more valuable information to contribute here to the improvement of the hobby than many others.
Okay- so you don't have an answer for how sellers can become part of the solution as you suggested earlier. Got it. Good idea, though- keep up the good work!
And likewise. Good job of dodging my question, strawman.
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<< <i>Paypal protection for both seller and buyer has one remaining bug. Give the seller the option to not accept CC payments. Option should be available for each item listed. >>
It actually WAS an option back in the day...however, Ebay has gone overboard on the side of the buyer and now all sellers are forced to accept Paypal and/or credit cards. You can't even state in your listing that you will accept other forms of payment like checks, money orders, or cash. Now, if the buyer OFFERS to pay via an alternative method you can take it... but with the free approval service provided by their current rules, why would they offer to? >>
On a big $$$ item splitting the saved PP fees by accepting a check or MO can be an incentive for both parties. Obviously, it doesn't work for everyone.
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<< <i>asides from that
I believe you can set up your acct to sell only to those with a certain amount of transactions >>
How? That would be really helpful. >>
To select buyer requirements for all your listings:
Go to My eBay.
Click the Account tab, and then click Site Preferences on the left.
In the Selling Preferences section, scroll to Buyer requirements, and then click the Show link.
Click the Edit link.
On the Buyer Requirements page, select your requirements.
Click the Submit button to save your requirements.
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<< <i>And just for the sake of giving you something else to debate about: How about if Paypal mandated that ALL users provide sensitive personal information such as Social Security number or photo ID (State Driver's license), the way they have been demanding of some eBay sellers? >>
Okay- so you don't have an answer for how sellers can become part of the solution as you suggested earlier. Got it. Good idea, though- keep up the good work!
And likewise. Good job of dodging my question, strawman. >>
I didn't respond to your question because I don't know what info PayPal collects from buyers and sellers these days. Kind of hard for one to tell you what additional info one thinks PayPal should now require unless one knows what is already required. And not responding to your question because I don't have the necessary info to come up with a relevant answer has nothing to do with strawmen. But I'm sure you knew that already.
<< <i>The address you provided is for the UPS store in a strip mall the 515 is his box number. Best wishes on a successful transaction. >>
scam........................