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ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Why??? eBay, of course

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    BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,694 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think drill. A bullet would likely crack the slab.
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    daOnlyBGdaOnlyBG Posts: 1,060 ✭✭
    Wouldn't touch it.
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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    this coin may have been posted before, just fyi
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    epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭
    I'll guess three axis machine center and a dis-satisfied with the grade coin owner.
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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,053 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Idiot damage.

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    OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Drillbit just enough to kill the grade

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    CircOnlyCircOnly Posts: 2,227 ✭✭✭✭
    It's the MO of this seller. Take a closer look, there is more than one in his inventory.
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    kryptonitecomicskryptonitecomics Posts: 9,185 ✭


    << <i>It's the MO of this seller. Take a closer look, there is more than one in his inventory. >>



    Anyone would be crazy to buy from this guy. If he thinks he can grade better then PCGS he should go work for them. Should have just cracked the coin out and graded it as he saw fit vs damaging the slab like that.....you can't fix stupid.
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    MoldnutMoldnut Posts: 3,116 ✭✭✭✭
    Same seller did that to a 1923-S quarter not long ago. image
    Derek

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    lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,875 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Drill as the entrance and exit wounds are about the same size image
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    nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Insane way to deal with grades they don't agree with....image

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    LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This guy is a total tool in his own right. Inflated prices on everything he lists and plays with the POP numbers trying to make his stuff rarities in his mind.

    Even his handle is wrong as most of what he lists are not true Key Dates.
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    CircOnlyCircOnly Posts: 2,227 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>This guy is a total tool in his own right. Inflated prices on everything he lists and plays with the POP numbers trying to make his stuff rarities in his mind.

    Even his handle is wrong as most of what he lists are not true Key Dates. >>



    While I won't make personal comments, I will not do business with the person. I also blocked their buying name after the seller used my photos to relist the coin and didn't ask.

    Another thing I have wondered, this seller pulls auction photos from Heritage quite a bit for "comparison purposes". Is this kosher with Heritage? I can't image they would be OK with it.
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    fastfreddiefastfreddie Posts: 2,978 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've heard of coin doctoring but holder doctoring takes it to a new level.

    Why not just crack it? He's cracked up IMHO.
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Didn't Johnnie Cochran once say "If the grade don't fit... You must drill with bit" imageimage
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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,883 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It's the MO of this seller. Take a closer look, there is more than one in his inventory. >>


    Wow, is this guy still doing this? These have been showing up for years. I'm surprised anyone ever bites. Do our hosts look with disapproval on someone altering their slabs to misrepresent them?
    John
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    ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Didn't Johnnie Cochran once say "If the grade don't fit... You must drill with bit" imageimage >>



    You Sir are a funny manimage
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,293 ✭✭✭✭✭
    -1

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    Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,285 ✭✭✭
    That's just funny!

    image
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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    LOL on the seller. When I disagree with the grade I just list it and state the grade I think it is. Have had quite a lot of success on the bay selling undergraded coins!
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    lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 45,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Seen that before, I think.

    Yeah, that's just kinda goofy. Why not just crack it out?

    Not a bad lookin' coin, though, IMHO.

    Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.

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    astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Somebody didn't like the VF grade given their "XF+" coin! image
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,847 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Somebody didn't like the VF grade given their "XF+" coin! image >>



    Bingo! It's hard to overgrade a coin in an auction when it's in a slab and already graded by a major grading service. He's not fooling anyone with this scam and anyone that needs this coin will bid based on a lower grade and subtract out the cost of getting it reslabbed from his bid. Actually, most people will just shake their head and pass on it.

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The title of this thread should be "Why coin collectors drink part LXXVIII."image

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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,895 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Seen that before, I think.

    Yeah, that's just kinda goofy. Why not just crack it out? >>


    We had some fun with this a few years ago. The fact that the seller is still at it says something.

    By leaving the coin in its holder it says "PCGS judged this to be authentic". By obliterating the grade it says "I don't agree with PCGS. You decide for yourself".

    I'll bet folks filling album holes would have no problem buying his drilled slabs.
    Lance.
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    ormandhormandh Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭
    I really think that the damage is due to a .22mm pistol. You can tell that these holes were penetrated via gunfire by the way the cracks formed near the penetration entrance as it tried to enter PCGS's tamperproof slabs. I will have to say that this guy had a pretty decent aim and probably was from a North Korean or Russian military special units branch. The only thing that perplexes me is that the person did not try to use a pair of pliers before reverting to small firearm extraction. imageimage

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    LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Somebody didn't like the VF grade given their "XF+" coin! image >>



    Bingo! It's hard to overgrade a coin in an auction when it's in a slab and already graded by a major grading service. He's not fooling anyone with this scam and anyone that needs this coin will bid based on a lower grade and subtract out the cost of getting it reslabbed from his bid. Actually, most people will just shake their head and pass on it. >>



    It and almost all of his listings are Fixed Price listing not auctions.
    My Current project....https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/mysetregistry/album/160794
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here's a thread on the same seller I started 4 years ago and even back then it wasn't his first attempt image

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    ambro51ambro51 Posts: 14,538 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Drill press with a 1/4 inch wood drill. This is pretty much flat faced but ths edgd cuts and there is a central centering point. Plexiglass heats melts and cools like that You can set precise depth of cut.
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,847 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I really think that the damage is due to a .22mm pistol. You can tell that these holes were penetrated via gunfire by the way the cracks formed near the penetration entrance as it tried to enter PCGS's tamperproof slabs. I will have to say that this guy had a pretty decent aim and probably was from a North Korean or Russian military special units branch. The only thing that perplexes me is that the person did not try to use a pair of pliers before reverting to small firearm extraction. imageimage

    image -Dan >>



    What's a ".22mm"? Never heard of that caliber.image;

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    ormandhormandh Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I really think that the damage is due to a .22mm pistol. You can tell that these holes were penetrated via gunfire by the way the cracks formed near the penetration entrance as it tried to enter PCGS's tamperproof slabs. I will have to say that this guy had a pretty decent aim and probably was from a North Korean or Russian military special units branch. The only thing that perplexes me is that the person did not try to use a pair of pliers before reverting to small firearm extraction. imageimage

    image -Dan >>



    What's a ".22mm"? Never heard of that caliber.image; >>



    LOL! Where is my brain! A cannon did not make them holes! image
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,847 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>I really think that the damage is due to a .22mm pistol. You can tell that these holes were penetrated via gunfire by the way the cracks formed near the penetration entrance as it tried to enter PCGS's tamperproof slabs. I will have to say that this guy had a pretty decent aim and probably was from a North Korean or Russian military special units branch. The only thing that perplexes me is that the person did not try to use a pair of pliers before reverting to small firearm extraction. imageimage

    image -Dan >>



    What's a ".22mm"? Never heard of that caliber.image; >>



    LOL! Where is my brain! A cannon did not make them holes! image >>



    Actually, .22mm would be the size of a grain of sand but I get your point..image

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