So, is this a proof or not?

braddick · January 26, 2013 9:25AM

(I'm going to let PCGS finally decide.)

magikbilly · January 26, 2013 9:33AM

Hello Braddick,

You have it in hand, and you know a LOT, but I can't see much from that photo. All I know is that this lighting makes many Buffs look Proofy. Maybe I am wrong but I can't see this coin well. It looks really glossy and hammered.

Eric

coolest · January 26, 2013 9:35AM

It must be a Proof. (That is my guess).
Did you buy it as BU for $100?

magikbilly · January 26, 2013 9:38AM

I would guess so too, but I can't see this scan so well. There are hard rims, mirrors, glittery specialness and overall hammered strike, but with so much dark...I just ain't saying

Eric

halfhunter · January 26, 2013 9:43AM

From that pic, it sure looks proof-ey.

HH

SUMORADA · January 26, 2013 9:47AM

Sure is shiney, but compared to this one here the strike just is not there....jmo

braddick · January 26, 2013 9:50AM

A visual of my success rate so far on finding proofs in mint state slabs:

magikbilly · January 26, 2013 9:52AM

<< A visual of my success rate so far on finding proofs in mint state slabs:

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LOL Braddick

Like I said, I'll reserve my opinion!

Best wishes,
Eric

roadrunner · January 26, 2013 9:57AM

If the rim/edge was quite wide and sharp to the touch when held between the fingers, that's a pretty good sign of a proof. Has always worked for me.

You can get cut handling those proofs.

coinsarefun · January 26, 2013 9:57AM

Hey Pat

I went throught the same thing a few years back.......trying to roll the dice on cruddy pics and so far have never been lucky

I hope you have more luck then I did

magikbilly · January 26, 2013 10:03AM

<< If the rim/edge was quite wide and sharp to the touch when held between the fingers, that's a pretty good sign of a proof. Has always worked for me.

You can get cut handling those proofs.

>>

Ha! I always like to say you can shave with them.

Eric

coinman420 · January 26, 2013 10:06AM

can`t tell much from the pics. it almost looks polished but i`m sure that`s not the case.

davewesen · January 27, 2013 6:18AM

I once had a 1936 that looked just like that. I saw it in an ACG MS65 holder at a show and it just sparkled. The light hit it and it shined like a diamond. The area just in front of the hips and below E Pluribus Unum when hit with light looked white sand. It was the best struck buffalo I had ever seen.

I cracked it and sent it in (can't remember if PCGS/NGC) and it came back MS65 again.

I ended up selling it, but is one coin I wish I still had.

I think the rim/edge is what the TPGs use for determining on early and close proof buffalos.

I am too cheap to buy a proof buffalo (or a special strike 27-S struck with chromium plated die), and am always looking for a score -

maybe someday we will hit.

keets · January 27, 2013 11:15AM

if PCGS says it's a Proof does that mean it is??
if PCGS says it's not a Proof does that mean it isn't??

Type2 · January 27, 2013 11:25AM

PL hard to tell from the photo.

Baley · January 27, 2013 11:27AM

is that the only photo available? very difficult to opine. If pressed, with just this info, I'd guess No

LochNESS · January 27, 2013 2:06PM

<< If the rim/edge was quite wide and sharp to the touch when held between the fingers, that's a pretty good sign of a proof. Has always worked for me.
You can get cut handling those proofs.

>>

I have noticed that with many Franklin Mint proofs (darkside stuff) but I thought it was limited to their productions. I haven't had that experience with a US Mint coin yet.

I wonder what the rims feel like on the 1794 flowing hair

braddick · January 27, 2013 2:13PM

<< PL hard to tell from the photo. >>

Do these help?

commoncents05 · January 27, 2013 2:15PM

I would have to see the rims to be sure, but I think it is a proof.

-Paul

braddick · January 27, 2013 2:24PM

Maybe this photo will assist:

lkeigwin · January 27, 2013 2:38PM

<< if PCGS says it's a Proof does that mean it is??
if PCGS says it's not a Proof does that mean it isn't?? >>

Do you mean to the owner or to most everyone else?
Lance.

Baley · January 27, 2013 3:10PM

is it my imagination or is the nose getting bigger?

LochNESS · January 27, 2013 3:14PM

It definitely got bigger. Starting to resemble my uncle Harry. I always knew that Indian was a fellow member of the tribe

Frankcoins · January 27, 2013 8:26PM

From the photo alone, looks like a polished business strike

cmerlo1 · January 27, 2013 10:53PM

I seem to remember reading that there is less space between the rim and the front of the buffalo's head on proofs... I'm not sure if that's true, but on yours, it looks like the front of the head is touching the rim.

TwoSides2aCoin · January 28, 2013 12:05AM

Or a beautifully lacquered MS 66 made to order ? Because all things are possible in the world of coins. Fingers crossed.... it photographs nicely.

~wishing well~
In short: idk

coolest · January 28, 2013 7:39AM

Where did the coin come from any history?

braddick · January 28, 2013 7:44AM

<< Where did the coin come from any history? >>

LINK

So, is this a proof or not?

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