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I've got a question regarding flow lines...

jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭✭✭
These pics may not be clear enough to be conclusive, but I've been looking at this coins surfaces with a loupe and I can't say for sure if I'm looking at very heavy metal flow, or possibly
whizzing ? The highest points are completely free of lines (shield edge, staff), there's no metal pushed up against these areas either...but the lower devices, like the head and arms are
completely covered with what looks like flow lines ( or possibly brush marks ? )

I'm inclined to say not whizzed, but I'm still learning !

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  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,857 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd say flow lines. Look at the lettering around "DOLLAR". The lines do not extend up and over the devices where whizzing damage would be the strongest. Whizzing is also frequently almost randomly oriented while these lines are more or less radial in nature.

    Nice chopmark too!
  • stealerstealer Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭✭
    Those aren't whizzing lines or lines resultant from a cleaning. I don't know the technical term however...

    I would expect British coinage to have totally different luster style as compared to US coinage.
  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    i see metal flow and die polishing lines
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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    you would be able to easily recognize flow lines but you might be confusing "whizzing" with die polish. judging only from what you posted, I'd say whizzing. die polish lines would stop at the lettering and devices; the fields are what get polished and show lines, the devices and lettering on the die are recessed.

    hairlines may be the result of handling or packaging and would show on the devices in the high point areas you mentioned.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Flow lines.

    No flow lines on the head and breasts because of the wear there.
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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Flow lines.

    No flow lines on the head and breasts because of the wear there. >>



    Also indicates it's a AU coin right?
  • jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'd say flow lines. Look at the lettering around "DOLLAR". The lines do not extend up and over the devices where whizzing damage would be the strongest. Whizzing is also frequently almost randomly oriented while these lines are more or less radial in nature.

    Nice chopmark too! >>



    That's a very good tell...looking inside and outside the D, the metal is all flowing in the same direction. Nothing is pushed up onto the base of the D....
    The amount of flowing metal on the neck and upper body of the figure caught my eye, as these are recessed areas on the die, like Keets said, but somehow the metal flowed across
    this area in a similar way as in the fields. I don't see any die polish though, there are some light scratches/hairlines here and there and a bunch of fine die cracks.
    The pics do show some light rub that I didn't see in hand....AU 58 !

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