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Treasury, Fed kill idea of $1 trillion platinum coins to avert debt crisis

So now what are we going to do? It seemed like such a good idea too! Mint one coin worth a trillion dollars, walk it over to the treasury department, deposit it and PRESTO we got ourselves a balanced budget!

Maybe we should mint a few extra just in case though. I think they're open to suggestions. Maybe if the Langbords turn in the rest of their stash that the Fed doesn't know about?

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  • daOnlyBGdaOnlyBG Posts: 1,060 ✭✭
    I was hoping to cherry pick one some day. Gosh darn.
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  • I guess I'll have to cancel my order. They'd probably get lost in the mail anyway.
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    Uhhh....Let's see. Now why wouldn't the Treasury Department, still run by Tim Geithner former CEO of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York and who supported Hank Paulsen in the bailout of all those wall street firms NOT want this to happen? Could it be to perhaps force a higher debt ceiling??

    Of course everybody new that the Federal Reserve Bank ( a private bank with but 1 customer) wouldn't agree to this.


    So, what else is new?

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Should Daniel make a 2013 $1 trillion platinum coin?

    Would be kind of interesting from a history perspective years down the road.
  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Should Daniel make a 2013 $1 trillion platinum coin?

    Would be kind of interesting from a history perspective years down the road. >>



    Yes, a great theme for a Hard Times token

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,851 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Former US Mint Director Moy was interviewed concerning this issue. He said this coin would have to contain a trillion dollars worth of platinum to comply with the law that is being cited for this hairbrained scheme.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Former US Mint Director Moy was interviewed concerning this issue. He said this coin would have to contain a trillion dollars worth of platinum to comply with the law that is being cited for this hairbrained scheme. >>



    Thank goodness all of our current coinage is worth their weight in value. MJ
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,851 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Former US Mint Director Moy was interviewed concerning this issue. He said this coin would have to contain a trillion dollars worth of platinum to comply with the law that is being cited for this hairbrained scheme. >>



    Thank goodness all of our current coinage is worth their weight in value. MJ >>



    The circulating clad coins are authorized by congress. If the mint struck a clad trillion dollar coin it would not be legal.

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Former US Mint Director Moy was interviewed concerning this issue. He said this coin would have to contain a trillion dollars worth of platinum to comply with the law that is being cited for this hairbrained scheme. >>



    Thank goodness all of our current coinage is worth their weight in value. MJ >>



    The circulating clad coins are authorized by congress. If the mint struck a clad trillion dollar coin it would not be legal. >>



    Never under estimate desperation. MJ
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  • s4nys4ny Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Former US Mint Director Moy was interviewed concerning this issue. He said this coin would have to contain a trillion dollars worth of platinum to comply with the law that is being cited for this hairbrained scheme. >>



    I think he is wrong. The mint sells "collector coins" at premiums over their metal content. What about the Carson City Morgan Dollars that were sold? They were
    sold at big premiums. There would have been a way to do the $trillion coin.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,851 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Former US Mint Director Moy was interviewed concerning this issue. He said this coin would have to contain a trillion dollars worth of platinum to comply with the law that is being cited for this hairbrained scheme. >>



    Thank goodness all of our current coinage is worth their weight in value. MJ >>



    The circulating clad coins are authorized by congress. If the mint struck a clad trillion dollar coin it would not be legal. >>



    Never under estimate desperation. MJ >>



    Executive order?image

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

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    << <i>Former US Mint Director Moy was interviewed concerning this issue. He said this coin would have to contain a trillion dollars worth of platinum to comply with the law that is being cited for this hairbrained scheme. >>



    Thank goodness all of our current coinage is worth their weight in value. MJ >>



    The circulating clad coins are authorized by congress. If the mint struck a clad trillion dollar coin it would not be legal. >>



    Never under estimate desperation. MJ >>



    Executive order?image >>



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    Walker Proof Digital Album
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  • clad trillion dollar coin ...image
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,851 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>clad trillion dollar coin ...image >>



    Wouldn't be legal unless congress authorized it.

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    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,615 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just because an idea gets tossed around, the media has it in stone before the newspaper gets in in print. LOL
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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Should Daniel make a 2013 $1 trillion platinum coin?

    Would be kind of interesting from a history perspective years down the road. >>

    Daniel is not authorized, by law, to make "money" on behalf of the United States of America.

    The US Treasury, on the other hand, is.
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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Former US Mint Director Moy was interviewed concerning this issue. He said this coin would have to contain a trillion dollars worth of platinum to comply with the law that is being cited for this hairbrained scheme. >>



    Thank goodness all of our current coinage is worth their weight in value. MJ >>



    The circulating clad coins are authorized by congress. If the mint struck a clad trillion dollar coin it would not be legal. >>

    Perhaps a review of the existing law is needed before any further discussion. I'm gonna see if I can find it.
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    The name is LEE!
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    Aside from the fact that the reference to a "trillion dollar coin" has nothing to do with "circulating coinage", here it is:

    31 USC - 5112(k)

    "(k)The Secretary may mint and issue platinum bullion coins and proof platinum coins in accordance with such specifications, designs, varieties, quantities, denominations, and inscriptions as the Secretary, in the Secretary’s discretion, may prescribe from time to time."

    No denomination is specified as in the previous sections and as such, Congress has already authorized the Secretary of the Treasury to mint a platinum bullion coin in whatever denomination s/he wants.

    In short, Congressional approval is not needed. Until, that is, Congress amends this particual part of the US Code.
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