ARCHIVAL PICTURES ADDED Thanks Tom OT MUSEUM QUALITY Rare Collectible Obtained - Collection Complete

magikbilly · December 17, 2012 6:21AM

Hi All,

OT, yes - but - many of you know I work with research and authentication of artifacts from the Cunard Line first R.M.S. Mauretania (1907-1934), fastest ship on the ocean (by far) from 1907 until 1929. No small feat this relic collection. I thought some of you might appreciate the finishing of this rare assembly over 12 years. Apart from some walnut Smoking Room dolphin frieze, this is now complete as I can get it (photos will follow of course):

I have successfully collected the following items in excellent original condition as best as can be had from the superior sources:

Teak (fo'c'sle deck) Ash tray, with Manganese bronze (prop metal) insert depicting bas-relief of liner with original applied patina, unused, engraved by hand, 1935 at scrapping yard in Scotland, uncleaned

Pine decking bookends, with brass plaque, at scrapping 1935 in Scotland, uncleaned

Lounge molding, hand carved African mahogany (egg and dart, Greek key), gold leaf and bronze paint, saved from installation at the Mauretania pub in Bristol, not refinished - original oiled finish - from Great Tew Estate Auction, uncleaned

Lounge capital carving, rams head swag section, hand carved pine with gold paint, gift from original owner (since 1941) for authenticating his full pilaster and selling it for him to be restored and displayed where the liner was built in 1904-1907 at the Discovery Museum Annex the Segedunum Museum, on Permanent display with my research, fully restored to her previous first class glory, my section uncleaned & unrestored

Teak section of deck hand railing, inset Rototherm thermometer, with plaque 1935, uncleaned

Porthole dog of Admiralty brass, from the boat deck, hand engraved "Rosyth 1935", uncleaned (unique)

Cast pot metal waterline model Pre-WW1 On mahogany base (uncleaned, very scarce pre WW1 model))

And now...finally, after 12 years, a section of uncleaned turbine blading!!! - low pressure blade 12" (orig size) from inner 2 Low Pressure prop rotors! Outer 2 were High Pressure and changed in 1909 from 3 bladed props. This is akin to Skyman's collectibles!!! Only from 1907! These are her guts, her heart, her strength! UNCLEANED!

Also,

Fragment of the Lusitania wreck(!!!!!!!!! and legal too!!!), Shelter Deck. Hand gear from watertight door of all things, with indisputable papers, recovered 1982 by OI. Very potent and sad bit of rusted metal.

I don't handle it.
Original unpublished unique Lusitania Maiden Voyage cyanotype photograph, 9.13.07
Unpublished RPPC Lusitania, Maiden Voyage, 9.13.07
Original unpublished unique Photograph Lusitania graves RPPC AZO card, July 1915, showing newly filled graves in Queenstown (now known as Cobh)

Best,
Eric

Photographs as promised:

Best wishes and thanks again to TomB for hosting these images for me! Class act.

Eric

Here are some archival photographs from 1906/07 from the Swan Hunter Yards in Newcastle that show these low pressure turbine blades in place in part of the rotor and the whole rotor as well.

Eric

magikbilly · December 17, 2012 6:23AM

Say, does anyone else in here collect this stuff? Lets talk!!!!!!!!! I just bought unpublished photos of the 3 to 4 blade outer HP prop change in December 1908!!!!!!! Open plating - ribs visible! New bracket! Anyone??? I wish there was a message board for this stuff. Coin collectors-we are lucky with these PCGS boards. What there is is so limited online for me. There are all the same things in this area of collecting, varieties, condition and AT color and all. Forgery. Crooks. Same items re-appearing cleaned or altered. Same stuff, same nuances. Good dealers too. I hope to be among them

Just wish there were folks to talk with. There are so few collectors.

Eric

okracer · December 17, 2012 6:51AM

I collect lots of different things, so this was cool to hear what you accumulated! I just love "history".

Thanks for sharing!

magikbilly · December 17, 2012 6:57AM

Thank you for reading! It means so much to me

Its like finishing a few 1936-1942 Pr sets I guess, all uncleaned and upper original Pr 64+'s or better. Thank you!

Best wishes,
Eric

DorkGirl · December 17, 2012 7:15AM

Why no pics?

magikbilly · December 17, 2012 7:20AM

<< Why no pics? >>

coming

Eric

magikbilly · December 17, 2012 7:35AM

DorkGirl,

Pics added per your request

Eric

PerryHall · December 17, 2012 7:35AM

Sounds like a neat collection of very historical artifacts.

magikbilly · December 17, 2012 7:58AM

Thanks Perry - my first "Way to go!"

In Situ 1907 pics of these exact low pressure blades coming! Took a little research...

Eric

magikbilly · December 17, 2012 8:26AM

Hi All,

Finally updated properly - all images to be seen. Enjoy

All thanks to TomB.

Eric

magikbilly · December 17, 2012 10:19AM

Bumped for night crowd.

Eric

BarberFanatic · December 17, 2012 11:44AM

Am I missing something? This is in the U.S. Coin forum because...?

magikbilly · December 18, 2012 3:56AM

...Because many of us collect other odd items and sometimes we show them here. If you didn't want to see it why did you click a thread clearly titled "OT"? Was it a shock? Did ya get hurt?

Eric

joeykoins · December 18, 2012 4:08AM

<< I collect lots of different things, so this was cool to hear what you accumulated! I just love "history".

Thanks for sharing! >>

I agree,very interesting. Speaking of history,we, as collectors of all these beautiful coins. We automatically,become History buffs,whether we know it or not.

( and to think,when I was in school,I hated History!)

magikbilly · December 18, 2012 4:28AM

Of course, this can be coin related. There was a lovely 1907 Liverpool coin to celebrate 1207-1907 and all the years of shipbuilding on the Tyne, And there was a medal struck in 1938 that harkened the new Mauretania (1939) which was made from metal saved from the first Mauretania (1907).

Eric

joeykoins · December 18, 2012 4:32AM

<< Of course, this can be coin related. There was a lovely 1907 Liverpool coin to celebrate 1207-1907 and all the years of shipbuilding on the Tyne, And there was a medal struck in 1938 that harkened the new Mauretania (1939) which was made from metal saved from the first Mauretania (1907).

Eric

>>

It's ironic,what your saying a coin being made from ships,when in the 40's copper from coins were being made for bullets...

Shamika · December 18, 2012 5:32AM

Very interesting. I just love this stuff.

Mark · December 18, 2012 9:00AM

It's a neat picture of the low-pressure rotor-blading, but do you have any idea why that picture was taken? To me, it seems bizarre to take that picture ... or, at the least, passingly strange ...

JamesMurray · December 18, 2012 9:11AM

<< 

<< I collect lots of different things, so this was cool to hear what you accumulated! I just love "history".

Thanks for sharing! >>

I agree,very interesting. Speaking of history,we, as collectors of all these beautiful coins. We automatically,become History buffs,whether we know it or not.

( and to think,when I was in school,I hated History!)

>>

Well said Joey , couldnt agree more. Nice collection Eric

magikbilly · December 18, 2012 9:45AM

Hi,

Thanks. Yes, those are called builders photographs and they were taken to document every phase of construction. There is almost always a man in them for scale. This image is from a book called "Engineering"which was a collection of articles from the monthly "Engineering" - it was bound in gilded black cloth and given to certain people when the liner had its maiden voyage. Mine is a presentation copy - there are other bindings. The other trade book of this type was called "The Shipbuilder" - one was produced for each of the great liners and they have superb color renderings of the public spaces. You can get these in reprinted form to read or one can collect originals like mine. The books are not easy - together both outpace the turbine blade!

Eric

magikbilly · December 18, 2012 9:46AM

Thanks James and Joey and Mark and Shamika and Perry and all!

I am very happy so many found this interesting

Eric.

JamesMurray · December 18, 2012 10:59AM

Do you have photos of the smoking room dolphins Eric ? That sounds pretty interesting , perhaps more so to me as i was associated with the submarine service which as you'll know puts much significance to dolphins in a heraldic sense. Id like to see that smoking room : )

magikbilly · December 18, 2012 2:25PM

double post.

magikbilly · December 18, 2012 2:33PM

<< Do you have photos of the smoking room dolphins Eric ? That sounds pretty interesting , perhaps more so to me as i was associated with the submarine service which as you'll know puts much significance to dolphins in a heraldic sense. Id like to see that smoking room : ) >>

Hi Jimmy

If you send me your email address I will send a photo of the dolphin frieze

Until then, click below and be sure to view all numbered pages and the gallery too - this work is quite good. I am supposed to assist with adding atmosphere at some point; it looks a bit sterile right now. Having just reread the site I am wondering why she never found the color images in the Shipbuilder? Gallery pages show some of this frieze but you'll need to look closely. It wraps around the room, right under the white molding. The color used is not quite right - it is a gentle silvery walnut.

Best wishes,
Eric

Mauretania's Smoking Room by Paula Nunn

determined · December 18, 2012 4:46PM

Cool history!

<< okracer: I collect lots of different things, so this was cool to hear what you accumulated! I just love "history". >>

I couldn't agree more.

nags · December 18, 2012 11:02PM

Personally, I enjoy threads like this. They educate and it is always inspiring to see someone have such passion for an endeavor.

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