1. You can acquire the coin with a specific performance action. YOU can force a seller to sell....if the item is worth the trouble. We have all sold things low...that's life.
2. Just pay for the item and see what he/she does. Then the ball is in their court.
3 Remember, if you neg the seller because they don't deliver.......I hope you bought it off a buying account.
And, interestingly enough, the seller should know by now that he/she's not supposed to list like that but seems to put "low reserve" in the description of other items currently listed. Although the Op's coin is again listed and this time w/a proper reserve. >>
<< <i>update: this morning the seller sent to me a request to cancel the transaction... declined. not gonna be that easy bub, i will be busy most of the day, gonna try and call ebay later this afternoon, im betting this guy will play the stupid card with ebay, probably going to claim he wasnt aware that he actually had to put a reserve on the item for the item to have a reserve. >>
Good for you!! Now he has the pay the eBay fees. You also have the option to leave negative feedback and low star rating. I am not sure if this seller is "top rated" or not but if he is your low feedback could potentially cost him his top rated seller and his 20% discount on his seller fees.
heres thge message i get when trying to open a case with the seller >>>The item is probably on its way.Please allow enough time for the seller to process and ship your item.If you still haven't received the item by Dec 07, 2012, please contact us.You can also try contacting the seller- opens in a new window or tab.
anyone kow how i can contact ebay directly ? either by phone or email ?
regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
finally was able to navigate to the correct page where i was given a phone number to ebay, spoke with a very helpful fellow named alex, and the member has been reported. alex agreed with the masses here, he cant just mention a reserve in the listing, he has to comply with the rules as everyone else does. if this d!kbag would have even once offered an apology for his "screw up" i may have believed that it was not an intentional attempt to circumvent the fee for a reserve auction. i see he has other listings, some of which mention a reserve in the listing but dont actually "have" a reserve. and i see hes also selling a counterfeit pillar dollar (he must have missed that rule as well) it would be a shame if all of his "low reserve" auctions were reported and ended,
regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
<< <i>We could have some fun with the relisted coin. Ideas? Lance. >>
ebay message: "I would bid on your coin but word going around the coin collecting community is that if you don't like the hammer price you will not honor your sale. Not someone I want to do business with."
Governments can print currency. Only the people can print faith in it — and they’re running low on ink.
<< <i> We could have some fun with the relisted coin. Ideas? Lance. >>
Well we could run this coin up to 10 or 20K and then stick him with the fees. Of course I am not condoning such actions but you asked for ideas right???
I must be old and jaded....too much headache and worry on this. Is the coin worth 4 figures or more?
While I agree with the fact that the seller should do things right and own up to how things are supposed to be run (you get a high bidder, you get paid, you send item that was listed), whenever I see the headhunting going on, and the consternation, I wonder if it is ultimately worth it on the buying side.
Note: I have had sellers do the same thing and just moved on as it wasn't worth it, and when I was selling, I did have a seller back out because they bought a similar item cheaper (modern coinage item, raw, and he saved a couple of dollars...literally) a couple of days after winning my auction. Should he have paid? yep. Did I lose sleep and worry? Nope. Moved on.
Certainly, buyers and sellers both should live up to the agreements they made when they bid on or listed an item. The reality is- not all will and on the plus side, nobody was cheated out of anything here. Personally, I'd save my indignation for people who actually do scam buyers/sellers out of their coins/money and not waste any more time than it takes to leave feedback on this kind of a deal.
On another note- if you're going to complain about what this seller is doing, bidding in his auctions with the intention of winning and not paying doesn't do anything but lower you to his level. But then again, that's just me.
The seller should deliver the coin since it sold. I'm not sure how much it's worth to push the issue. If a seller is cornered but still doesn't want to sell it as agreed he could just not send it and wait for the buyer to complain then he can say he sent it without tracking and it must be lost. Then the buyer will ask for a refund, the seller is only out his fees which aren't much since the item was not expensive.
<< <i>The seller should deliver the coin since it sold. I'm not sure how much it's worth to push the issue. If a seller is cornered but still doesn't want to sell it as agreed he could just not send it and wait for the buyer to complain then he can say he sent it without tracking and it must be lost. Then the buyer will ask for a refund, the seller is only out his fees which aren't much since the item was not expensive.
Hope he delivers or at least changes his ways >>
Yep....if the seller is cornered and not wanting to send it, then it can be hard to force the issue....of course, the OP could always threaten to use a lawyer and sue....I believe at least one forum member was going that route in the past and forced the delivery when the seller balked...
<< <i>of course, the OP could always threaten to use a lawyer and sue.. >>
Using a lawyer to force the sale of a $50 coin would seem to be a bit extreme but based on some of the posts I've read here over the years, it sure wouldn't surprise me if it happened.
its not the $50 coin, its the principle of the situation. i dont care if its four figures or four dollars. you have your principles and i have mine. if you would "move on" then feel free to do so
regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
Why are you playing games with a shady seller? He could mail you a rock and if he printed the label from the ebay transaction with your address, item number and delivery confirmation all matching, it could be very hard to get your money back.
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it wont be hard to get my money back when i open the package in the presence of my local postmaster. in addition to the seller stating adamantly (through ebay) that he will not sell the coin for the price it went for. and considering that he already re-listed the coin. again, its not about the money or the coin, its about the principle
regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
I HAD THE AME THING HAPPEN ABOUT A MONTH AGO I BOUGHT A ITEM THAT WAS WORTH $10,000 AND GOT IT FOR LIKE 500 THE SELLER REFUSED TO FOLLOW THRU I GUESS IF I REALLY WANTED TO I COULD HAVE TRAVELED ALL THE WAY FROM INDIANA TO CALIFORNIA AND TOOK IT TO SMALL CLAIMS BUT ....IS IT REALLY WORTH IT ....IS THERE ANY OTHER WAY TO MAKE THE SELLER FOLLOW THRU THAT ANYONE KNOWS
this guy is just plain dumb. i ask him since its been a few days now, is he going to refund my payment or send the coin, he says he sent the refund on tuesday and then he proclaims that my email must not be registered to my paypal acct, good lord idiot, if my paypal acct wasnt registered HOW did i send you the payment ? turns out that rather than just refunding the payment, he SENT it....but to the wrong acct. im thinking his parents must have force fed him paint chips as a child, or maybe he still eats them, i dont know.
regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
<< <i>I must be old and jaded....too much headache and worry on this. Is the coin worth 4 figures or more?
While I agree with the fact that the seller should do things right and own up to how things are supposed to be run (you get a high bidder, you get paid, you send item that was listed), whenever I see the headhunting going on, and the consternation, I wonder if it is ultimately worth it on the buying side.
Note: I have had sellers do the same thing and just moved on as it wasn't worth it, and when I was selling, I did have a seller back out because they bought a similar item cheaper (modern coinage item, raw, and he saved a couple of dollars...literally) a couple of days after winning my auction. Should he have paid? yep. Did I lose sleep and worry? Nope. Moved on. >>
If you don't want to give away coin on ebay then use a minimum bid. If you just let it rip starting say at 99c, well be prepared to let it go even if a big loss.
i hesitated in leaving the guy a neg, then, once i inquired as to when (if) i was going to be refunded, he tries to place the blame on me because the refund was unclaimed... no, he sent the refund to someone else. tries to tell me i need to verify my acct or some HS. never did the guy even attempt to apologize for any of the hassle that in my opinion was 1000% percent his own fault, from an error in the listing, to him refunding someone else my payment. not even a hint of an apology, so i feel he deserved the neg, hell, he practically BEGGED for it
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2. Just pay for the item and see what he/she does. Then the ball is in their court.
3 Remember, if you neg the seller because they don't deliver.......I hope you bought it off a buying account.
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<< <i>link to auction? >>
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My guess is this is it....
And, interestingly enough, the seller should know by now that he/she's not supposed to list like that but seems to put "low reserve" in the description of other items currently listed. Although the Op's coin is again listed and this time w/a proper reserve. >>
guilty
Did he ever tell you how much the reserve was?
......I collect old stuff......
<< <i>update: this morning the seller sent to me a request to cancel the transaction... declined. not gonna be that easy bub, i will be busy most of the day, gonna try and call ebay later this afternoon, im betting this guy will play the stupid card with ebay, probably going to claim he wasnt aware that he actually had to put a reserve on the item for the item to have a reserve. >>
Good for you!! Now he has the pay the eBay fees. You also have the option to leave negative feedback and low star rating. I am not sure if this seller is "top rated" or not but if he is your low feedback could potentially cost him his top rated seller and his 20% discount on his seller fees.
anyone kow how i can contact ebay directly ? either by phone or email ?
Lance.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1837-Seated-Liberty-Dime-Fine-Small-Date-/330833132980?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item4d0730fdb4
<< <i>We could have some fun with the relisted coin. Ideas?
Lance. >>
ebay message: "I would bid on your coin but word going around the coin collecting community is that if you don't like the hammer price you will not honor your sale. Not someone I want to do business with."
Governments can print currency. Only the people can print faith in it — and they’re running low on ink.
<< <i> We could have some fun with the relisted coin. Ideas? Lance. >>
Well we could run this coin up to 10 or 20K and then stick him with the fees. Of course I am not condoning such actions but you asked for ideas right???
Is the coin worth 4 figures or more?
While I agree with the fact that the seller should do things right and own up to how things are supposed to be run (you get a high bidder, you get paid, you send item that was listed), whenever I see the headhunting going on, and the consternation, I wonder if it is ultimately worth it on the buying side.
Note: I have had sellers do the same thing and just moved on as it wasn't worth it, and when I was selling, I did have a seller back out because they bought a similar item cheaper (modern coinage item, raw, and he saved a couple of dollars...literally) a couple of days after winning my auction. Should he have paid? yep. Did I lose sleep and worry? Nope. Moved on.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
On another note- if you're going to complain about what this seller is doing, bidding in his auctions with the intention of winning and not paying doesn't do anything but lower you to his level. But then again, that's just me.
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I'm not sure how much it's worth to push the issue. If a seller is cornered but still doesn't want to sell it as agreed he could just not send it and wait for the buyer to complain then he can say he sent it without tracking and it must be lost. Then the buyer will ask for a refund, the seller is only out his fees which aren't much since the item was not expensive.
Hope he delivers or at least changes his ways
<< <i>The seller should deliver the coin since it sold.
I'm not sure how much it's worth to push the issue. If a seller is cornered but still doesn't want to sell it as agreed he could just not send it and wait for the buyer to complain then he can say he sent it without tracking and it must be lost. Then the buyer will ask for a refund, the seller is only out his fees which aren't much since the item was not expensive.
Hope he delivers or at least changes his ways
Yep....if the seller is cornered and not wanting to send it, then it can be hard to force the issue....of course, the OP could always threaten to use a lawyer and sue....I believe at least one forum member was going that route in the past and forced the delivery when the seller balked...
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
<< <i>of course, the OP could always threaten to use a lawyer and sue.. >>
Using a lawyer to force the sale of a $50 coin would seem to be a bit extreme but based on some of the posts I've read here over the years, it sure wouldn't surprise me if it happened.
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<< <i>I like the idea of bidding up the coin to a very high level and refusing to pay stating that it went above my cap bidding reserve limit. >>
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<< <i>I must be old and jaded....too much headache and worry on this.
Is the coin worth 4 figures or more?
While I agree with the fact that the seller should do things right and own up to how things are supposed to be run (you get a high bidder, you get paid, you send item that was listed), whenever I see the headhunting going on, and the consternation, I wonder if it is ultimately worth it on the buying side.
Note: I have had sellers do the same thing and just moved on as it wasn't worth it, and when I was selling, I did have a seller back out because they bought a similar item cheaper (modern coinage item, raw, and he saved a couple of dollars...literally) a couple of days after winning my auction. Should he have paid? yep. Did I lose sleep and worry? Nope. Moved on. >>
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<< <i>Seller says he paid $305 on ebay in 2003 for the piece; the reserve is $200. >>
Guess seller forgot to turn on the reserve option in his listing and set it @ $200
What a goofball, telling you what his thinking on the item is.
Crazy.
But seller now has clouded feedback, but still a long way to $200.....