Since minimum registered fee is approaching $25 that seems like a rather low threshhold to use registered unless the item is really special. I usually start at $700 to $800 or so for registered. >>
Anyone note that the OP says he paid $185.00 for the coins. Heck I had a dealer send me a $1300.00 coin with Priority with signature service and self insured it a couple of weeks ago. . >>
Person to person is not a problem.
BUT, when the package says PCGS on it, a LOT of folks know who and what PCGS is. They can, and have been in the past, targeted.
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
but I think they should look for it and not wait for it........................
That is really a good thing to say! The USPS is $15.6 billion dollars in debt and you want them to spend money on manpower looking for your coins? Take a breather and they will show up. You're not the only person who has had coins re-routed in transit. Heck, your package has not been gone a week yet. You seem to be the customer from H E double toothpicks!
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I have faith that your package will be recovered. Give it at least until Tuesday next (Nov. 27, 2012). It will show up, you'll see. I recently had a similar situation where a member of this forum had mailed me a check for $1800. Didn't show, didn't show, he graciously offered to replace it, then bang, here it was. Got mangled in their machinery but perfectly negotiable. They really do a fabulous job. Routinely. It will arrive.
Many, many perfect transactions with other members. Ask please.
<< <i>but I think they should look for it and not wait for it........................
That is really a good thing to say! The USPS is $15.6 billion dollars in debt and you want them to spend money on manpower looking for your coins? Take a breather and they will show up. You're not the only person who has had coins re-routed in transit. Heck, your package has not been gone a week yet. You seem to be the customer from H E double toothpicks! >>
Heh heh!
I had one get routed through Honolulu once.
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
<< <i>but I think they should look for it and not wait for it........................
That is really a good thing to say! The USPS is $15.6 billion dollars in debt and you want them to spend money on manpower looking for your coins? Take a breather and they will show up. You're not the only person who has had coins re-routed in transit. Heck, your package has not been gone a week yet. You seem to be the customer from H E double toothpicks! >>
I can only hope that one day you lose something important to you and will see if you just wait the 21 days and do nothing. I already stated that 15 times prior my package has made it to calif in 2 days. (Oh thats right so did this ONE) Except this one disappeared after going thru ananheim. UPDATE The newport inspector called and said that My package was NOT the only one missing from that morning. They have turned it over to there supervisor and they will be giving me a call on monday. My thoughts are not that the package was misplaced, but more that it MIGHT have been stolen. Why would I wait for 21 days before calling? Oh well lessons learned and will see if mine and the OTHER packages are found...or if there is another reason why they were misplaced...........Enjoy
<< <i>Probably a waste of time to point this out, but unless you're using Express Mail, tracking is not part of the service you paid for. Your packages might get scanned and they might not. And if they don't, the post office hasn't done anything wrong. >>
Yep. My post office refuses to scan things handed to them across the counter unless they are express.
Have you checked to see if PCGS has logged them in as accepted?
I not too long ago had a package go missing. It had some coins in it. I was told that it may have been on a truck just waiting for it to be filled up before getting it along. Mind you, it was a first-class package. It took over 25 days for it to get 500 miles. But it did make it and in the end, I was happy. But holy, it was my FIRST experience of any package being lost in transit and nobody having any clue as to where it was in over 14 years of shipping/receiving anything and everything world-wide. I guess it's just a sign of the times... Hope it turns up for you, tommy!
I use 3rd party insurance for high value (greater than $20-30K) packages. You'd be surprised what carriers they use. One thing they all insist on is express service and some do not allow shipments on friday that will sit over the weekend. --Jerry
I can only hope that one day you lose something important to you and will see if you just wait the 21 days and do nothing.
I would say all of us on the boards have had packages take longer than usual to get somewhere during this time of year. But...the difference is we are adult about it and don't start complaining immediately!
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<< <i>I can only hope that one day you lose something important to you and will see if you just wait the 21 days and do nothing.
I would say all of us on the boards have had packages take longer than usual to get somewhere during this time of year. But...the difference is we are adult about it and don't start complaining immediately! >>
<< <i>I can only hope that one day you lose something important to you and will see if you just wait the 21 days and do nothing.
I would say all of us on the boards have had packages take longer than usual to get somewhere during this time of year. But...the difference is we are adult about it and don't start complaining immediately! >>
While I have always respected you, Mr. Dixon, I have to say, I'd be complaining immediately, as well. The package got to Anaheim (it had no problem going half way cross country in 2 days, though), and then fell off the face of the earth on it's last ride before delivery? Now, others have also gone the missing route, we are now informed? I'd say Tom is dealing with it well (alot better than I would be). Taking extra time is one thing (and the 'this time of year' thing doesn't cut it after this amount of time on priority), but getting within 50 miles of it's destination, then disappearing and not being seen since, I think alot would be ticked off and 'venting'.
Not to mention, the P.O. was open yesterday, and today, 2 more days for possible delivery gone by....and it's been over a week since it was in Anaheim???? C'mon, I think you're being a bit hard on Tom. 2 days from IL to Anaheim, and at least 8 days (and counting) from Anaheim to Newport Beach??? Now, there are other packages missing? Something smells, and I'm surprised you aren't more sympathetic to the situation.
<< <i>I can only hope that one day you lose something important to you and will see if you just wait the 21 days and do nothing.
I would say all of us on the boards have had packages take longer than usual to get somewhere during this time of year. But...the difference is we are adult about it and don't start complaining immediately! >>
I think I am adult enough and I sure would be doing everything I could to try and locate my missing items.
Not all of us are independently wealthy and can afford to lose something that he or she deems to be very valuable to them.
So stop slamming Tommy for trying to get to the bottom of his problem.
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<< <i>Probably a waste of time to point this out, but unless you're using Express Mail, tracking is not part of the service you paid for. Your packages might get scanned and they might not. And if they don't, the post office hasn't done anything wrong. >>
Yep.My post office refuses to scan things handed to them across the counter unless they are express.
Have you checked to see if PCGS has logged them in as accepted?
--Jerry >>
If the clerk(s) at your local branch refuse to scan numbered articles other than Express, then they are clearly violating Postal regulations. All numbered articles accepted over a service counter require scanning the barcode at the point of acceptance. No exceptions. This would be a matter to address to the OIG for certain. All numbered articles are supposed to be entered in to the Postal Service intranet. Just because the consumer doesn't have access to all of that information does not preclude it from access by Postal employees.
Having a box go missing is no fun no matter how long it has been or what was in it. In nearly all cases, they just show up eventually and I hope for the same here.
I've never personally gotten any satisfaction or faster results from ever having anyone at the PO "research" it or try to help me.
Give it a little more time. Remember that postal employees are not rocket scientist. Last spring we sent a package to the wrong coast and from Maine to California the package had to take a side trip to Honolulu, HI. Guess Honolulu is the sorting facility for CA
<< <i>Probably a waste of time to point this out, but unless you're using Express Mail, tracking is not part of the service you paid for. Your packages might get scanned and they might not. And if they don't, the post office hasn't done anything wrong. >>
Yep.My post office refuses to scan things handed to them across the counter unless they are express.
Have you checked to see if PCGS has logged them in as accepted?
--Jerry >>
If the clerk(s) at your local branch refuse to scan numbered articles other than Express, then they are clearly violating Postal regulations. All numbered articles accepted over a service counter require scanning the barcode at the point of acceptance. No exceptions. This would be a matter to address to the OIG for certain. All numbered articles are supposed to be entered in to the Postal Service intranet. Just because the consumer doesn't have access to all of that information does not preclude it from access by Postal employees. >>
I never heard of such a thing. The clerks at our little Post Office are very helpful and always scan in packages if I ask.
<< <i>Probably a waste of time to point this out, but unless you're using Express Mail, tracking is not part of the service you paid for. Your packages might get scanned and they might not. And if they don't, the post office hasn't done anything wrong. >>
Yep.My post office refuses to scan things handed to them across the counter unless they are express.
Have you checked to see if PCGS has logged them in as accepted?
--Jerry >>
If the clerk(s) at your local branch refuse to scan numbered articles other than Express, then they are clearly violating Postal regulations. All numbered articles accepted over a service counter require scanning the barcode at the point of acceptance. No exceptions. This would be a matter to address to the OIG for certain. All numbered articles are supposed to be entered in to the Postal Service intranet. Just because the consumer doesn't have access to all of that information does not preclude it from access by Postal employees. >>
I never heard of such a thing. The clerks at our little Post Office are very helpful and always scan in packages if I ask. >>
That is exactly why when you have packages with prepaid or free DC, etc. that you should hand them to a clerk so that you are sure they get scanned in. At my PO they weigh the package and make sure that it is on the up and up. IMO it is industrial strength dumb to drop one of those pre-labeled packages into a dropbox and hope it gets scanned.
<< <i>Give it a little more time. Remember that postal employees are not rocket scientist. Last spring we sent a package to the wrong coast and from Maine to California the package had to take a side trip to Honolulu, HI. Guess Honolulu is the sorting facility for CA
>>
LOL! I remember this one Caleb!
I didn;t tell you, but when it arrived in the mailbox, it had a leigh stapled to it along with an empty mai tai glass!
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
<< <i>Give it a little more time. Remember that postal employees are not rocket scientist. Last spring we sent a package to the wrong coast and from Maine to California the package had to take a side trip to Honolulu, HI. Guess Honolulu is the sorting facility for CA >>
Sorta like their computerized forwarding system. Every PO also has an associated PO. Mine [Ames, IA] happens to have its forwarding PO in Whichita, KS, so if I forward a package intended for my next door neighbor, it goes all the way to Whichita before coming back to him.
<< <i>but I think they should look for it and not wait for it........................
That is really a good thing to say! The USPS is $15.6 billion dollars in debt and you want them to spend money on manpower looking for your coins? Take a breather and they will show up. You're not the only person who has had coins re-routed in transit. Heck, your package has not been gone a week yet. You seem to be the customer from H E double toothpicks! >>
I can only hope that one day you lose something important to you and will see if you just wait the 21 days and do nothing. I already stated that 15 times prior my package has made it to calif in 2 days. (Oh thats right so did this ONE) Except this one disappeared after going thru ananheim. UPDATE The newport inspector called and said that My package was NOT the only one missing from that morning. They have turned it over to there supervisor and they will be giving me a call on monday. My thoughts are not that the package was misplaced, but more that it MIGHT have been stolen. Why would I wait for 21 days before calling? Oh well lessons learned and will see if mine and the OTHER packages are found...or if there is another reason why they were misplaced...........Enjoy >>
kill kill kill
I would drill them a bit... ask if they were all going to PCGS or if they were going to random places.
I hope it is the latter and a pallet or something just got sent to hawaii or juneau or something by accident.
my misrouted package actually showed (still shows) that it went out for delivery in another town. that was a gut wrencher for 12+ hours as I wondered how they'd "deliver it" to a foreign address in another town.
<< <i>Give it a little more time. Remember that postal employees are not rocket scientist. Last spring we sent a package to the wrong coast and from Maine to California the package had to take a side trip to Honolulu, HI. Guess Honolulu is the sorting facility for CA
>>
LOL! I remember this one Caleb!
I didn;t tell you, but when it arrived in the mailbox, it had a leigh stapled to it along with an empty mai tai glass! >>
<< <i>I can only hope that one day you lose something important to you and will see if you just wait the 21 days and do nothing.
I would say all of us on the boards have had packages take longer than usual to get somewhere during this time of year. But...the difference is we are adult about it and don't start complaining immediately! >>
I think I am adult enough and I sure would be doing everything I could to try and locate my missing items.
Not all of us are independently wealthy and can afford to lose something that he or she deems to be very valuable to them.
So stop slamming Tommy for trying to get to the bottom of his problem. >>
Well put, Pitboss. Plain and simple. Tom's a friend of mine here, brought together by the Washie varieties, and boy, has he gone full bore with them! And the $180 paid for these, man.....a mere pittance if they got back to him properly holdered.
Whether a $20,000 coin or $2,000 coin (hypothetical prices) makes no difference......for MOST collectors (myself included), that $2,000 coin is a BIG $$ coin, but if the $20,000 coin went missing, I think even a dealer would start worrying and be on the phone pretty quickly, 'complaining' about it getting lost, regardless of shipping method.
Tom came here to 'vent' to his friends here, and look for advice/help/and perhaps to calm down a bit (some could construe that to be complaining, but given what the coins WOULD have been worth in our hosts plastic, properly attributed...complaing would NOT be out of the question), not to get insulted. I see nothing wrong with his coming here and 'venting'. He has every right to feel the way he does about the service the USPS provided for his package. A padded mailer, I can see that getting misplaced, but not a USPS Priority Mail box.
I know there are more than a few members that would LOVE to add to their collections what was in that package. Remember his PR63 ETF that went for $3,100 on TT??? This dwarfs that one. Tom does his homework, and busts his hump to find those Washie varieties. I'd be out of my mind with worry also, and I don't consider it complaining if it COULD make it roughly 1,300 miles in 2 days, but COULDN'T make it from Anaheim to Newport Beach in over a week? He has a right to be out of his mind with worry, given the original ship date, and where we are today.
On a somewhat related notice, I'd like to read reports from people traveling, stories about flights and all that. One guy one time was on a trip from what I believe was Chicago to Los Angeles...checked in a bag, which went missing when he got to Los Angeles, and for a couple of days they couldn't locate it. It showed up eventually....in Australia!
<< <i>Hopefully the box(es) will show up eventually....
On a somewhat related notice, I'd like to read reports from people traveling, stories about flights and all that. One guy one time was on a trip from what I believe was Chicago to Los Angeles...checked in a bag, which went missing when he got to Los Angeles, and for a couple of days they couldn't locate it. It showed up eventually....in Australia!
<< <i>Probably a waste of time to point this out, but unless you're using Express Mail, tracking is not part of the service you paid for. Your packages might get scanned and they might not. And if they don't, the post office hasn't done anything wrong. >>
Yep.My post office refuses to scan things handed to them across the counter unless they are express.
Have you checked to see if PCGS has logged them in as accepted?
--Jerry >>
If the clerk(s) at your local branch refuse to scan numbered articles other than Express, then they are clearly violating Postal regulations. All numbered articles accepted over a service counter require scanning the barcode at the point of acceptance. No exceptions. This would be a matter to address to the OIG for certain. All numbered articles are supposed to be entered in to the Postal Service intranet. Just because the consumer doesn't have access to all of that information does not preclude it from access by Postal employees. >>
I never heard of such a thing. The clerks at our little Post Office are very helpful and always scan in packages if I ask. >>
That is exactly why when you have packages with prepaid or free DC, etc. that you should hand them to a clerk so that you are sure they get scanned in. At my PO they weigh the package and make sure that it is on the up and up. IMO it is industrial strength dumb to drop one of those pre-labeled packages into a dropbox and hope it gets scanned. >>
That is a courtesy of the postal employees since, for what I know, they are not supposed to scan any package with pre-printed label, unless is printed through the USPS website and you submit the scan form. I may be wrong.
MM
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<< <i>That is a courtesy of the postal employees since, for what I know, they are not supposed to scan any package with pre-printed label, unless is printed through the USPS website and you submit the scan form. I may be wrong.
MM >>
You are correct. USPS scan form can be printed along with the preprinted shipping label and the scan form can have more than one shipment on it. I had a clerk tell me that fellow clerks who won't scan preprinted labels as a courtesy see the website capability of printing postage as a threat to their job security.
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<< <i>Probably a waste of time to point this out, but unless you're using Express Mail, tracking is not part of the service you paid for. Your packages might get scanned and they might not. And if they don't, the post office hasn't done anything wrong. >>
Yep.My post office refuses to scan things handed to them across the counter unless they are express.
Have you checked to see if PCGS has logged them in as accepted?
--Jerry >>
If the clerk(s) at your local branch refuse to scan numbered articles other than Express, then they are clearly violating Postal regulations. All numbered articles accepted over a service counter require scanning the barcode at the point of acceptance. No exceptions. This would be a matter to address to the OIG for certain. All numbered articles are supposed to be entered in to the Postal Service intranet. Just because the consumer doesn't have access to all of that information does not preclude it from access by Postal employees. >>
I never heard of such a thing. The clerks at our little Post Office are very helpful and always scan in packages if I ask. >>
That is exactly why when you have packages with prepaid or free DC, etc. that you should hand them to a clerk so that you are sure they get scanned in. At my PO they weigh the package and make sure that it is on the up and up. IMO it is industrial strength dumb to drop one of those pre-labeled packages into a dropbox and hope it gets scanned. >>
That is a courtesy of the postal employees since, for what I know, they are not supposed to scan any package with pre-printed label, unless is printed through the USPS website and you submit the scan form. I may be wrong.
MM >>
Every one I have ever done that way has been printed thru the USPS site AFAIK and I have never been questioned nor refused. I did once print a label thru ebay/PayPal but IIRC it also went thru the USPS site.
<< <i>Probably a waste of time to point this out, but unless you're using Express Mail, tracking is not part of the service you paid for. Your packages might get scanned and they might not. And if they don't, the post office hasn't done anything wrong. >>
Yep.My post office refuses to scan things handed to them across the counter unless they are express.
Have you checked to see if PCGS has logged them in as accepted?
--Jerry >>
If the clerk(s) at your local branch refuse to scan numbered articles other than Express, then they are clearly violating Postal regulations. All numbered articles accepted over a service counter require scanning the barcode at the point of acceptance. No exceptions. This would be a matter to address to the OIG for certain. All numbered articles are supposed to be entered in to the Postal Service intranet. Just because the consumer doesn't have access to all of that information does not preclude it from access by Postal employees. >>
I never heard of such a thing. The clerks at our little Post Office are very helpful and always scan in packages if I ask. >>
That is exactly why when you have packages with prepaid or free DC, etc. that you should hand them to a clerk so that you are sure they get scanned in. At my PO they weigh the package and make sure that it is on the up and up. IMO it is industrial strength dumb to drop one of those pre-labeled packages into a dropbox and hope it gets scanned. >>
That is a courtesy of the postal employees since, for what I know, they are not supposed to scan any package with pre-printed label, unless is printed through the USPS website and you submit the scan form. I may be wrong.
MM >>
Every one I have ever done that way has been printed thru the USPS site AFAIK and I have never been questioned nor refused. I did once print a label thru ebay/PayPal but IIRC it also went thru the USPS site. >>
I print my own labels on a Brother QL-500 label printer (inexpensive and highly recommended). I use paypal shipping or ebay shipping. I have tried several times to get them to scan, usually when a buyer asks questions before shipping that make me somewhat suspicious. But they just say politely, "we don't do that." and throw them in the "out" bin.
Now when I'm shipping silver eagles or when I used to do presidential dollar sales by the boatload I might ship 50 or 75 items per day. I would just bring those in by the tubfull and hand them to them. I never expect them to scan those while I wait. I don't run home and check how many get scanned but when I get a question from a buyer and start checking I see most of them don't get scanned until they get to the sorting office in San Diego.
Bottom line is that I'm not concerned at all because with the zebra striped, pre printed label and a well packaged, taped parcel, my experience is that the USPS has only lost 1 domestic package in the past 6 years and over 10,000 packages. The lost package was a new batch of generic tape I bought for the label printer that doesn't seem to stick well so I add some tape now.
<< <i>Give it a little more time. Remember that postal employees are not rocket scientist. Last spring we sent a package to the wrong coast and from Maine to California the package had to take a side trip to Honolulu, HI. Guess Honolulu is the sorting facility for CA
>>
LOL! I remember this one Caleb!
I didn;t tell you, but when it arrived in the mailbox, it had a leigh stapled to it along with an empty mai tai glass! >>
Delivered by Vivian Leigh? >>
My bad. Drop the GH.
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
Bottom line is that I'm not concerned at all because with the zebra striped, pre printed label and a well packaged, taped parcel, my experience is that the USPS has only lost 1 domestic package in the past 6 years and over 10,000 packages. The lost package was a new batch of generic tape I bought for the label printer that doesn't seem to stick well so I add some tape now.
<< <i>Probably a waste of time to point this out, but unless you're using Express Mail, tracking is not part of the service you paid for. Your packages might get scanned and they might not. And if they don't, the post office hasn't done anything wrong. >>
Yep.My post office refuses to scan things handed to them across the counter unless they are express.
Have you checked to see if PCGS has logged them in as accepted?
--Jerry >>
If the clerk(s) at your local branch refuse to scan numbered articles other than Express, then they are clearly violating Postal regulations. All numbered articles accepted over a service counter require scanning the barcode at the point of acceptance. No exceptions. This would be a matter to address to the OIG for certain. All numbered articles are supposed to be entered in to the Postal Service intranet. Just because the consumer doesn't have access to all of that information does not preclude it from access by Postal employees. >>
I never heard of such a thing. The clerks at our little Post Office are very helpful and always scan in packages if I ask. >>
That is exactly why when you have packages with prepaid or free DC, etc. that you should hand them to a clerk so that you are sure they get scanned in. At my PO they weigh the package and make sure that it is on the up and up. IMO it is industrial strength dumb to drop one of those pre-labeled packages into a dropbox and hope it gets scanned. >>
That is a courtesy of the postal employees since, for what I know, they are not supposed to scan any package with pre-printed label, unless is printed through the USPS website and you submit the scan form. I may be wrong.
MM >>
If you dump them at a drop-off site or the clerk just chucks them into a bin or tote, how do you know that they ever get scanned in? This would be especially true of insurance purchased online.
<< <i>I had two priorities yesterday, signature confirmation that I just dropped in the bin because there was a line and I did not want to hold things up. They still haven't been logged in.
Other topics on the quasi-federal USPS; when they deem a shipper "suspicious" for whatever reason and hold up his/her shipments: mail cover operations also. They are the only shipping company that asks you if what you are shipping is hazardous, fragile, liquid, etc.. I have yet to hear anyone say "yes!". >>
I always answer yes to fragile. In fact I get asked that question even when I presented a package and say it's fragile.
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<< <i>Registered for above $300 always for me. >>
Since minimum registered fee is approaching $25 that seems like a rather low threshhold to use registered unless the item is really special. I usually start at $700 to $800 or so for registered. >>
Anyone note that the OP says he paid $185.00 for the coins. Heck I had a dealer send me a $1300.00 coin with Priority with signature service and self insured it a couple of weeks ago.
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Person to person is not a problem.
BUT, when the package says PCGS on it, a LOT of folks know who and what PCGS is. They can, and have been in the past, targeted.
The name is LEE!
Lance.
That is really a good thing to say! The USPS is $15.6 billion dollars in debt and you want them to spend money on manpower looking for your coins? Take a breather and they will show up. You're not the only person who has had coins re-routed in transit. Heck, your package has not been gone a week yet. You seem to be the customer from H E double toothpicks!
It will show up, you'll see. I recently had a similar situation where a member of this forum had mailed me a check for $1800. Didn't show, didn't show, he graciously offered to replace it, then bang, here it was. Got mangled in their machinery but perfectly negotiable.
They really do a fabulous job. Routinely.
It will arrive.
<< <i>but I think they should look for it and not wait for it........................
That is really a good thing to say! The USPS is $15.6 billion dollars in debt and you want them to spend money on manpower looking for your coins? Take a breather and they will show up. You're not the only person who has had coins re-routed in transit. Heck, your package has not been gone a week yet. You seem to be the customer from H E double toothpicks! >>
Heh heh!
I had one get routed through Honolulu once.
The name is LEE!
<< <i>but I think they should look for it and not wait for it........................
That is really a good thing to say! The USPS is $15.6 billion dollars in debt and you want them to spend money on manpower looking for your coins? Take a breather and they will show up. You're not the only person who has had coins re-routed in transit. Heck, your package has not been gone a week yet. You seem to be the customer from H E double toothpicks! >>
I can only hope that one day you lose something important to you and will see if you just wait the 21 days and do nothing. I already stated that 15 times prior my package has made it to calif in 2 days. (Oh thats right so did this ONE) Except this one disappeared after going thru ananheim. UPDATE The newport inspector called and said that My package was NOT the only one missing from that morning. They have turned it over to there supervisor and they will be giving me a call on monday. My thoughts are not that the package was misplaced, but more that it MIGHT have been stolen. Why would I wait for 21 days before calling? Oh well lessons learned and will see if mine and the OTHER packages are found...or if there is another reason why they were misplaced...........Enjoy
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I wonder if they all were addressed to PCGS.
<< <i>Probably a waste of time to point this out, but unless you're using Express Mail, tracking is not part of the service you paid for. Your packages might get scanned and they might not. And if they don't, the post office hasn't done anything wrong. >>
Yep. My post office refuses to scan things handed to them across the counter unless they are express.
Have you checked to see if PCGS has logged them in as accepted?
--Jerry
<< <i> Why would I wait for 21 days before calling? >>
Stay on the PO, bro.
<< <i>Writing "CAUTION! Live Scorpions" on the box usually guarantees no hanky-panky. >>
Might get you in trouble with the animal rights nuts though.
There are a number of these online.
Reasonable rates but they do have limits.
The coins he is missing can not be easily replaced.
<< <i>I recomend a third party insurance.
There are a number of these online.
Reasonable rates but they do have limits. >>
I use 3rd party insurance for high value (greater than $20-30K) packages. You'd be surprised what carriers they use. One thing they all insist on is express service and some do not allow shipments on friday that will sit over the weekend. --Jerry
I would say all of us on the boards have had packages take longer than usual to get somewhere during this time of year. But...the difference is we are adult about it and don't start complaining immediately!
<< <i>I can only hope that one day you lose something important to you and will see if you just wait the 21 days and do nothing.
I would say all of us on the boards have had packages take longer than usual to get somewhere during this time of year. But...the difference is we are adult about it and don't start complaining immediately! >>
<< <i>I can only hope that one day you lose something important to you and will see if you just wait the 21 days and do nothing.
I would say all of us on the boards have had packages take longer than usual to get somewhere during this time of year. But...the difference is we are adult about it and don't start complaining immediately! >>
While I have always respected you, Mr. Dixon, I have to say, I'd be complaining immediately, as well. The package got to Anaheim (it had no problem going half way cross country in 2 days, though), and then fell off the face of the earth on it's last ride before delivery? Now, others have also gone the missing route, we are now informed? I'd say Tom is dealing with it well (alot better than I would be). Taking extra time is one thing (and the 'this time of year' thing doesn't cut it after this amount of time on priority), but getting within 50 miles of it's destination, then disappearing and not being seen since, I think alot would be ticked off and 'venting'.
Not to mention, the P.O. was open yesterday, and today, 2 more days for possible delivery gone by....and it's been over a week since it was in Anaheim???? C'mon, I think you're being a bit hard on Tom. 2 days from IL to Anaheim, and at least 8 days (and counting) from Anaheim to Newport Beach??? Now, there are other packages missing? Something smells, and I'm surprised you aren't more sympathetic to the situation.
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I would say all of us on the boards have had packages take longer than usual to get somewhere during this time of year. But...the difference is we are adult about it and don't start complaining immediately! >>
I think I am adult enough and I sure would be doing everything I could to try and locate my missing items.
Not all of us are independently wealthy and can afford to lose something that he or she deems to be very valuable to them.
So stop slamming Tommy for trying to get to the bottom of his problem.
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Yep.My post office refuses to scan things handed to them across the counter unless they are express.
Have you checked to see if PCGS has logged them in as accepted?
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If the clerk(s) at your local branch refuse to scan numbered articles other than Express, then they are clearly violating Postal regulations. All numbered articles accepted over a service counter require scanning the barcode at the point of acceptance. No exceptions. This would be a matter to address to the OIG for certain. All numbered articles are supposed to be entered in to the Postal Service intranet. Just because the consumer doesn't have access to all of that information does not preclude it from access by Postal employees.
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Yep.My post office refuses to scan things handed to them across the counter unless they are express.
Have you checked to see if PCGS has logged them in as accepted?
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If the clerk(s) at your local branch refuse to scan numbered articles other than Express, then they are clearly violating Postal regulations. All numbered articles accepted over a service counter require scanning the barcode at the point of acceptance. No exceptions. This would be a matter to address to the OIG for certain. All numbered articles are supposed to be entered in to the Postal Service intranet. Just because the consumer doesn't have access to all of that information does not preclude it from access by Postal employees. >>
I never heard of such a thing. The clerks at our little Post Office are very helpful and always scan in packages if I ask.
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Yep.My post office refuses to scan things handed to them across the counter unless they are express.
Have you checked to see if PCGS has logged them in as accepted?
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If the clerk(s) at your local branch refuse to scan numbered articles other than Express, then they are clearly violating Postal regulations. All numbered articles accepted over a service counter require scanning the barcode at the point of acceptance. No exceptions. This would be a matter to address to the OIG for certain. All numbered articles are supposed to be entered in to the Postal Service intranet. Just because the consumer doesn't have access to all of that information does not preclude it from access by Postal employees. >>
I never heard of such a thing. The clerks at our little Post Office are very helpful and always scan in packages if I ask. >>
That is exactly why when you have packages with prepaid or free DC, etc. that you should hand them to a clerk so that you are sure they get scanned in. At my PO they weigh the package and make sure that it is on the up and up. IMO it is industrial strength dumb to drop one of those pre-labeled packages into a dropbox and hope it gets scanned.
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LOL! I remember this one Caleb!
I didn;t tell you, but when it arrived in the mailbox, it had a leigh stapled to it along with an empty mai tai glass!
The name is LEE!
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Sorta like their computerized forwarding system. Every PO also has an associated PO. Mine [Ames, IA] happens to have its forwarding PO in Whichita, KS, so if I forward a package intended for my next door neighbor, it goes all the way to Whichita before coming back to him.
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That is really a good thing to say! The USPS is $15.6 billion dollars in debt and you want them to spend money on manpower looking for your coins? Take a breather and they will show up. You're not the only person who has had coins re-routed in transit. Heck, your package has not been gone a week yet. You seem to be the customer from H E double toothpicks! >>
I can only hope that one day you lose something important to you and will see if you just wait the 21 days and do nothing. I already stated that 15 times prior my package has made it to calif in 2 days. (Oh thats right so did this ONE) Except this one disappeared after going thru ananheim. UPDATE The newport inspector called and said that My package was NOT the only one missing from that morning. They have turned it over to there supervisor and they will be giving me a call on monday. My thoughts are not that the package was misplaced, but more that it MIGHT have been stolen. Why would I wait for 21 days before calling? Oh well lessons learned and will see if mine and the OTHER packages are found...or if there is another reason why they were misplaced...........Enjoy
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I would drill them a bit... ask if they were all going to PCGS or if they were going to random places.
I hope it is the latter and a pallet or something just got sent to hawaii or juneau or something by accident.
my misrouted package actually showed (still shows) that it went out for delivery in another town. that was a gut wrencher for 12+ hours as I wondered how they'd "deliver it" to a foreign address in another town.
As I was trying to get a handle on what is going on, a FedEx staffer actually suggested that it needed to go to Columbus for sorting. ???
DC, Baltimore, Philly, Newark, NYC, all these major locations and it NEEDED to go to Ohio?
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LOL! I remember this one Caleb!
I didn;t tell you, but when it arrived in the mailbox, it had a leigh stapled to it along with an empty mai tai glass! >>
Delivered by Vivian Leigh?
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I think I am adult enough and I sure would be doing everything I could to try and locate my missing items.
Not all of us are independently wealthy and can afford to lose something that he or she deems to be very valuable to them.
So stop slamming Tommy for trying to get to the bottom of his problem. >>
Well put, Pitboss. Plain and simple. Tom's a friend of mine here, brought together by the Washie varieties, and boy, has he gone full bore with them! And the $180 paid for these, man.....a mere pittance if they got back to him properly holdered.
Whether a $20,000 coin or $2,000 coin (hypothetical prices) makes no difference......for MOST collectors (myself included), that $2,000 coin is a BIG $$ coin, but if the $20,000 coin went missing, I think even a dealer would start worrying and be on the phone pretty quickly, 'complaining' about it getting lost, regardless of shipping method.
Tom came here to 'vent' to his friends here, and look for advice/help/and perhaps to calm down a bit (some could construe that to be complaining, but given what the coins WOULD have been worth in our hosts plastic, properly attributed...complaing would NOT be out of the question), not to get insulted. I see nothing wrong with his coming here and 'venting'. He has every right to feel the way he does about the service the USPS provided for his package. A padded mailer, I can see that getting misplaced, but not a USPS Priority Mail box.
I know there are more than a few members that would LOVE to add to their collections what was in that package. Remember his PR63 ETF that went for $3,100 on TT??? This dwarfs that one. Tom does his homework, and busts his hump to find those Washie varieties. I'd be out of my mind with worry also, and I don't consider it complaining if it COULD make it roughly 1,300 miles in 2 days, but COULDN'T make it from Anaheim to Newport Beach in over a week? He has a right to be out of his mind with worry, given the original ship date, and where we are today.
On a somewhat related notice, I'd like to read reports from people traveling, stories about flights and all that. One guy one time was on a trip from what I believe was Chicago to Los Angeles...checked in a bag, which went missing when he got to Los Angeles, and for a couple of days they couldn't locate it. It showed up eventually....in Australia!
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On a somewhat related notice, I'd like to read reports from people traveling, stories about flights and all that. One guy one time was on a trip from what I believe was Chicago to Los Angeles...checked in a bag, which went missing when he got to Los Angeles, and for a couple of days they couldn't locate it. It showed up eventually....in Australia!
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Dennis, I think that was WTCG!
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Really?! I thought I read that somewhere else....hmm maybe not.
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Yep.My post office refuses to scan things handed to them across the counter unless they are express.
Have you checked to see if PCGS has logged them in as accepted?
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If the clerk(s) at your local branch refuse to scan numbered articles other than Express, then they are clearly violating Postal regulations. All numbered articles accepted over a service counter require scanning the barcode at the point of acceptance. No exceptions. This would be a matter to address to the OIG for certain. All numbered articles are supposed to be entered in to the Postal Service intranet. Just because the consumer doesn't have access to all of that information does not preclude it from access by Postal employees. >>
I never heard of such a thing. The clerks at our little Post Office are very helpful and always scan in packages if I ask. >>
That is exactly why when you have packages with prepaid or free DC, etc. that you should hand them to a clerk so that you are sure they get scanned in. At my PO they weigh the package and make sure that it is on the up and up. IMO it is industrial strength dumb to drop one of those pre-labeled packages into a dropbox and hope it gets scanned. >>
That is a courtesy of the postal employees since, for what I know, they are not supposed to scan any package with pre-printed label, unless is printed through the USPS website and you submit the scan form.
I may be wrong.
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I may be wrong.
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You are correct. USPS scan form can be printed along with the preprinted shipping label and the scan form can have more than one shipment on it.
I had a clerk tell me that fellow clerks who won't scan preprinted labels as a courtesy see the website capability of printing postage as a threat to their job security.
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Yep.My post office refuses to scan things handed to them across the counter unless they are express.
Have you checked to see if PCGS has logged them in as accepted?
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If the clerk(s) at your local branch refuse to scan numbered articles other than Express, then they are clearly violating Postal regulations. All numbered articles accepted over a service counter require scanning the barcode at the point of acceptance. No exceptions. This would be a matter to address to the OIG for certain. All numbered articles are supposed to be entered in to the Postal Service intranet. Just because the consumer doesn't have access to all of that information does not preclude it from access by Postal employees. >>
I never heard of such a thing. The clerks at our little Post Office are very helpful and always scan in packages if I ask. >>
That is exactly why when you have packages with prepaid or free DC, etc. that you should hand them to a clerk so that you are sure they get scanned in. At my PO they weigh the package and make sure that it is on the up and up. IMO it is industrial strength dumb to drop one of those pre-labeled packages into a dropbox and hope it gets scanned. >>
That is a courtesy of the postal employees since, for what I know, they are not supposed to scan any package with pre-printed label, unless is printed through the USPS website and you submit the scan form.
I may be wrong.
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Every one I have ever done that way has been printed thru the USPS site AFAIK and I have never been questioned nor refused. I did once print a label thru ebay/PayPal but IIRC it also went thru the USPS site.
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Yep.My post office refuses to scan things handed to them across the counter unless they are express.
Have you checked to see if PCGS has logged them in as accepted?
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If the clerk(s) at your local branch refuse to scan numbered articles other than Express, then they are clearly violating Postal regulations. All numbered articles accepted over a service counter require scanning the barcode at the point of acceptance. No exceptions. This would be a matter to address to the OIG for certain. All numbered articles are supposed to be entered in to the Postal Service intranet. Just because the consumer doesn't have access to all of that information does not preclude it from access by Postal employees. >>
I never heard of such a thing. The clerks at our little Post Office are very helpful and always scan in packages if I ask. >>
That is exactly why when you have packages with prepaid or free DC, etc. that you should hand them to a clerk so that you are sure they get scanned in. At my PO they weigh the package and make sure that it is on the up and up. IMO it is industrial strength dumb to drop one of those pre-labeled packages into a dropbox and hope it gets scanned. >>
That is a courtesy of the postal employees since, for what I know, they are not supposed to scan any package with pre-printed label, unless is printed through the USPS website and you submit the scan form.
I may be wrong.
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Every one I have ever done that way has been printed thru the USPS site AFAIK and I have never been questioned nor refused. I did once print a label thru ebay/PayPal but IIRC it also went thru the USPS site. >>
I print my own labels on a Brother QL-500 label printer (inexpensive and highly recommended). I use paypal shipping or ebay shipping. I have tried several times to get them to scan, usually when a buyer asks questions before shipping that make me somewhat suspicious. But they just say politely, "we don't do that." and throw them in the "out" bin.
Now when I'm shipping silver eagles or when I used to do presidential dollar sales by the boatload I might ship 50 or 75 items per day. I would just bring those in by the tubfull and hand them to them. I never expect them to scan those while I wait. I don't run home and check how many get scanned but when I get a question from a buyer and start checking I see most of them don't get scanned until they get to the sorting office in San Diego.
Bottom line is that I'm not concerned at all because with the zebra striped, pre printed label and a well packaged, taped parcel, my experience is that the USPS has only lost 1 domestic package in the past 6 years and over 10,000 packages. The lost package was a new batch of generic tape I bought for the label printer that doesn't seem to stick well so I add some tape now.
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LOL! I remember this one Caleb!
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Yep.My post office refuses to scan things handed to them across the counter unless they are express.
Have you checked to see if PCGS has logged them in as accepted?
--Jerry >>
If the clerk(s) at your local branch refuse to scan numbered articles other than Express, then they are clearly violating Postal regulations. All numbered articles accepted over a service counter require scanning the barcode at the point of acceptance. No exceptions. This would be a matter to address to the OIG for certain. All numbered articles are supposed to be entered in to the Postal Service intranet. Just because the consumer doesn't have access to all of that information does not preclude it from access by Postal employees. >>
I never heard of such a thing. The clerks at our little Post Office are very helpful and always scan in packages if I ask. >>
That is exactly why when you have packages with prepaid or free DC, etc. that you should hand them to a clerk so that you are sure they get scanned in. At my PO they weigh the package and make sure that it is on the up and up. IMO it is industrial strength dumb to drop one of those pre-labeled packages into a dropbox and hope it gets scanned. >>
That is a courtesy of the postal employees since, for what I know, they are not supposed to scan any package with pre-printed label, unless is printed through the USPS website and you submit the scan form.
I may be wrong.
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If you dump them at a drop-off site or the clerk just chucks them into a bin or tote, how do you know that they ever get scanned in? This would be especially true of insurance purchased online.
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Other topics on the quasi-federal USPS; when they deem a shipper "suspicious" for whatever reason and hold up his/her shipments: mail cover operations also. They are the only shipping company that asks you if what you are shipping is hazardous, fragile, liquid, etc.. I have yet to hear anyone say "yes!". >>
I always answer yes to fragile. In fact I get asked that question even when I presented a package and say it's fragile.