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balisthx
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for you Mercury dime guys, i have a pcgs 66 micro-s and a pcgs 64 micro-s fs-512, what is the difference? pcgs shows the fs-512 at 3 in ms 64, and only 9 finer? and gives no value?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
hixxx1
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They are the same.
Looking for Top Pop Mercury Dime Varieties & High Grade Mercury Dime Toners.
and just got back today from pcgs my other micro that just says micro-s 5062.66/26555033, they were graded within the last 3 months. 2 different pcgs numbers identifying the same coin?
145414 vs. 5062 ? all early ogh use the 5062. and the one i got back today also is the 5062 number? check cert # 26172595. Maybe i am just missing something?
this applies to pcgs.
pcgs will "recognize" some "varieties" without having paid the "attribution fee(s)."
this gives one coin an assigned number.
pcgs will "attribute" some "varieties" with having paid the "attribution fee(s)."
this gives one coin another assigned number.
there are many variables that shape which coins pcgs will designate, but not attribute without paying any extra fees and I will not attempt to define why/how they choose. we can speculate but there will be many exceptions.
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<< <i>LOL now i understand.........its all about the $$$$$$$$$$$$$ >>
to an extent
there are actually hundreds of other varieties they could generate more income with by attributing them, but alas they do not
also when DH announced the sniffer service, one of his explanations of benefits from it was that they could stop having so many of the same coins sent in. once a coin had been sniffed/imaged, people should eventually catch on that if submitted under the secure plus service it would almost be pointless since they would have the history on the coin. ie previous grades, surfaces etc.
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populations for the same coin.......Why?..................oops, i paid the extra $$$$$, and only a few others like me that "ain't" that smart....so a small population LOL.
<< <i>Yea, I made the mistake of paying for attribute on the first one, and realized before i sent this last one, that the fee was not necessary. You have made it crystal clear, but what is funny is they give seperate
populations for the same coin.......Why?..................oops, i paid the extra $$$$$, and only a few others like me that "ain't" that smart....so a small population LOL. >>
when you think about something, the smaller picture is nice to keep in mind but after my meager 34 years on this planet i've found it much more beneficial to try and keep the bigger picture in mind.
having said that, there are many coins that would be better off being attributed for a few reasons of which i won't go into.
why have different populations for the same coin. this is where the bigger picture comes into play.
1. a particular date may have more than one variety, so when you click the [+] and it opens lets say 15 different varieties, i'm sure we would all be protesting in the streets to have them broken out for each designated/attributed variety.
2. there are thousands of coins where it is essential to have the pops separated again, for many reasons.
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you'll simply need to use creativity, experience and advice to figure out how and why it is beneficial to have the pops separated in such a way as i didn't cover too many reasons.
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complete a registry set. thanks again.
any links to registry you have to share for us?
i'll go ahead and speak for a lot of us on these boards and say, we love links!
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<< <i>.........what is the difference? >>
The CPG and the fact that PCGS designates, on atribution request, the FS number on the slab along with a new coin number.
BOTH coins fulfill the variety requirement for variety sets and as such, having the FS-512 on the slab was simply a waste of money.
The name is LEE!
Lance.
<< <i>A 4-digit PCGS coin number is considered a major variety and no extra fee is involved. The minor die varieties, 5-digit coin numbers, require variety attribution and the fee that goes along with it.
Lance. >>
Kinda. But you gotta add a digit as PCGS has been using 5 digit coin numbers since at least 2002 as shown by the Eisenhower 1972 Type 1, Type 2, and Type 3 coins:
PCGS took the 4 digit number for the base coin and added an 8 or a 9 to it. They did the exact same thing when designating CAMEO or DEPP CAMEO Proofs and still do.
However, when the CPG came along and it was learned that PCGS would attribute ANY coin which is in the (body of) CPG, then the 6 digit coin number was born. Therefore, all 6 digit coin numbers are varieties from the CPG. Those varieties may or may not include "established" coin varieties such as the 55/55 Lincoln, 3 Leg Buffalo, 1972/72 and on and on. Those "established" varieties, now have 2 coin numbers of which at least one contains 6 digits AND is assigned a sepcific FS number.
Back to the 1972 Type 2, it has a coin number of 97409 (which has 7409 as the base coin number) AND it has a coin number of 510592 which represents the same 1972 Type 2, except that FS-901, the Fivaz-Stanton number, will reside on the label.
It doesn't really matter though since both coins can be used in that particular coin slot within the registry.
However, since the same coin can have two completely different coin numbers and as such, two completely different slab labels, it does confuse folks who are new to collecting varieties.
The name is LEE!