3D Copiers.....in their Infancy now....but

ambro51 · November 7, 2012 1:10AM

Do you think future generations of collectors will be faced with "created copies" made by advanced copiers...replicators? Star Trek has already came to pass in many ways....

WDH · November 7, 2012 1:22AM

Funny you should mention that. Just read this article 3D Printer

blu62vette · November 7, 2012 1:34AM

Those things are nuts, I saw the video where one made a working wrench. Insane.

Jcarney · November 7, 2012 1:46AM

<< Do you think future generations of collectors will be faced with "created copies" made by advanced copiers...replicators? Star Trek has already came to pass in many ways.... >>

Yes, I do. I've been involved with this technology for quite a few years and have seen quantum leaps in technology. The biggest hurdle now is materials. When rapid prototyping evolves to use any material, say 90% coin silver, and a little bit better resolution, look for very high quality fakes.

Hussulo · November 7, 2012 2:00AM

Very interesting, I read somewhere that these new 3D printers will be called 3D Fabbers, as in 3D Fabricators.

They will be great, it will really tap into peoples imagination and offer a whole host of new possibilities.

Frankcoins · November 7, 2012 2:20AM

<< Do you think future generations of collectors will be faced with "created copies" made by advanced copiers...replicators? Star Trek has already came to pass in many ways.... >>

Frankcoins · November 7, 2012 2:27AM

<< Do you think future generations of collectors will be faced with "created copies" made by advanced copiers...replicators? Star Trek has already came to pass in many ways.... >>

No. All manufacturing processes reveal "fingerprints" of their origin. Cast, die struck, spark erosion, or laser melted powder. Since coins are die struck, anything except a die struck counterfeit can be identified pretty easily.

Hussulo · November 7, 2012 2:38AM

As Frank mentioned, I dont think you will be able to print coins as an exact replica, however you should be able to print other cool things like slab boxes and other accessories etc..

Jcarney · November 7, 2012 3:45AM

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<< Do you think future generations of collectors will be faced with "created copies" made by advanced copiers...replicators? Star Trek has already came to pass in many ways.... >>

No. All manufacturing processes reveal "fingerprints" of their origin. Cast, die struck, spark erosion, or laser melted powder. Since coins are die struck, anything except a die struck counterfeit can be identified pretty easily. >>

All CURRENT manufacturing processes reveal...etc., etc.

When rapid prototyping reaches much finer tolerances and is able to work with any material and combinations of materials, a product fabricated from this process would be indistinguishable from a die struck coin. Is the technology anywhere near this capability? Not even close. Is it theoretically possible? Sure....maybe.

LanceNewmanOCC · November 7, 2012 4:02AM

<< Those things are nuts, I saw the video where one made a working wrench. Insane. >>

i'm pretty sure i saw that same video. the main part was white and the spinning part was orange i think and the thing was very solid
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Overdate · November 7, 2012 4:35AM

<< Do you think future generations of collectors will be faced with "created copies" made by advanced copiers...replicators? Star Trek has already came to pass in many ways.... >>

No problem, just use 3-D printers to fabricate new collectors to buy the fabricated coins.

LostSisler · November 7, 2012 5:31AM

I don't think that these will be very good at making coins (for a hundred years or so atleast) however, I think that they will do an excellent job helping to create dies. Rapid prototyping of a coin design made in a computer would be pretty neat.

Coinsponge · November 7, 2012 5:42AM

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<< Do you think future generations of collectors will be faced with "created copies" made by advanced copiers...replicators? Star Trek has already came to pass in many ways.... >>

No. All manufacturing processes reveal "fingerprints" of their origin. Cast, die struck, spark erosion, or laser melted powder. Since coins are die struck, anything except a die struck counterfeit can be identified pretty easily. >>

What about making a high quality die from this process?

Jcarney · November 7, 2012 5:53AM

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<< Do you think future generations of collectors will be faced with "created copies" made by advanced copiers...replicators? Star Trek has already came to pass in many ways.... >>

No problem, just use 3-D printers to fabricate new collectors to buy the fabricated coins.

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Why the grin? What you just suggested may be the most fascinating aspect of 3-D printer technology. Not quite manufacturing people, but there are several very promising research programs currently underway that are using this technology to manufacture organs and blood vessels for transplant patients using their own cells. This would greatly lessen rejection and could conceivably be used someday to manufacture "spare parts" like knees, shoulders, hearts, kidneys, etc. The possibilities and implications of this technology are truly staggering and may profoundly change many aspects of life as we know it.

Zoins · November 7, 2012 6:47AM

Mitre Corporation and students at the University of Southamption have separately built flying planes from 3D Printers. While these are small R/C planes, Airbus is looking into full-size 3-D printed planes.

As for me, it would be cool to have 3D printed dies, 3D printed coin presses and 3D printed cars. Imagine changing the body on your car like you change clothes. That would be pretty cool IMO.

Kove · November 7, 2012 6:48AM

For mint state coins, no. Luster/metal flow can only be created through high pressure.

GoldenEyeNumismatics · November 7, 2012 6:53AM

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<< Do you think future generations of collectors will be faced with "created copies" made by advanced copiers...replicators? Star Trek has already came to pass in many ways.... >>

No. All manufacturing processes reveal "fingerprints" of their origin. Cast, die struck, spark erosion, or laser melted powder. Since coins are die struck, anything except a die struck counterfeit can be identified pretty easily. >>

If you create an extremely high resolution digital representation of a coin and take the time to remove any significant imperfections and abrasions, it's feasible that an incredibly accurate die itself could be printed.

Overdate · November 7, 2012 11:49AM

<< If you create an extremely high resolution digital representation of a coin and take the time to remove any significant imperfections and abrasions, it's feasible that an incredibly accurate die itself could be printed. >>

So it's possible that I can still acquire my dream coin - an MS70 1804 dollar!

Tragically, however, it's too late to obtain a First Strike designation.

SanctionII · November 7, 2012 12:04PM

I remember the Bruce Willis sci fi movie The Fifth Element.

The female heroine in that movie (Mila Jojovich) that saved the world from destruction was, in the beginning of the film, created from some tiny fragment of remnant dna/biological tissue. She was created in a machine that replicated the tissue at the molecular or atomic level and built her one atom or molecule or sell at a time.

Once the creation process was completed she spent the rest of the movie kicking butt; being emotionally distraught over the bad side of human nature; falling in love with Bruce Willis; and vanquishing the bad guys to save the day for humanity. She also looked pretty hot saving humanity.

Maybe this scenario (customized humans created on the spot from some remnant tissue) will be a reality in a decade or so.

3D Copiers.....in their Infancy now....but

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