. don't take this the wrong way but images will help. some people think things on certain coins are cuds, when they are not. so we may be on a fool's errand if you catch my drift
i did look at the known die pairings briefly and didn't see any cuds, but that doesn't mean there aren't any in that spot.
The reverse of the coin is non-existant and I don't mean from wear. It is totally smooth on the planchet. I read about uniface examples of large cents and I wonder if this could be one. It weighs up at 12.6 gms when a regular large cent of that time is +/- 13.5 gms. If there is wear of the obverse, which clearly there is, could it be a uniface?
I will attempt to post pics this evening because I have work to do with my scanner. Thoughts until then?
Many thanks for posting it for me! I believe that someone intentionally scratched the reverse to see if it was copper or lead, like a counterfeit. Reverse is completely smooth, I see no evidence of an image or anything, it is just like a blank planchet. Now, thoughts?
<< <i>Many thanks for posting it for me! I believe that someone intentionally scratched the reverse to see if it was copper or lead, like a counterfeit. Reverse is completely smooth, I see no evidence of an image or anything, it is just like a blank planchet. Now, thoughts? >>
1. i still do not think it is a cud 2. i toyed with the notion the item was not authentic for a few seconds. 3. i didn't know we would only get scans, so i am still at square one.
Im thinking its an S70 with PMD and a slick reverse from wear. Its not all that uncommon to have an AG obverse with a slick reverse with these large cents.
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don't take this the wrong way but images will help. some people think things on certain coins are cuds, when they are not. so we may be on a fool's errand if you catch my drift
i did look at the known die pairings briefly and didn't see any cuds, but that doesn't mean there aren't any in that spot.
images speak loudly in situations like this :-)
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peektures, we need peektures!
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peektures, we need peektures!
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The reverse of the coin is non-existant and I don't mean from wear. It is totally smooth on the planchet. I read about uniface examples of large cents and I wonder if this could be one. It weighs up at 12.6 gms when a regular large cent of that time is +/- 13.5 gms. If there is wear of the obverse, which clearly there is, could it be a uniface?
I will attempt to post pics this evening because I have work to do with my scanner. Thoughts until then?
<< <i>Thoughts until then? >>
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peektures, we need peektures!
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Where on the obverse is the cud?
(ETA.....nevermind, you said over the B )
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<< <i>Many thanks for posting it for me! I believe that someone intentionally scratched the reverse to see if it was copper or lead, like a counterfeit. Reverse is completely smooth, I see no evidence of an image or anything, it is just like a blank planchet. Now, thoughts? >>
1. i still do not think it is a cud
2. i toyed with the notion the item was not authentic for a few seconds.
3. i didn't know we would only get scans, so i am still at square one.
some copper experts will most likely comment
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I could not find a cud like that on any examples in Breen's Large Cent Book.
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I'm sure a large cent guru could attribute the coin.
Ed. S.
(EJS)
<< <i>And no one has an opinion about there being no reverse? can it be a uniface example? >>
I would guess it is just worn from circulation or PMD. Something of with that extent of wear it's not wild to see it being uniface.
<< <i>There is no wear. It is smooth and of uniform thickness. >>
Not trying to be argumentative but this could still describe the result of wear and just as likely caused by PMD.
<< <i>I could not find a cud like that on any examples in Breen's Large Cent Book. >>
I didn't see any in the reiver catalog either.
EAC 6024
<< <i>It's not all that uncommon to have an AG obverse with a slick reverse with these large cents. >>
+1
Looks like a cud to me and some serious pmd to boot.
We need better images.
Good luck,
Ray
<< <i>I think it is a rim bump then worn down. >>
Same heavy wear that made the rev flat wore down a raised area from a rim bump so it looks like a CUD.