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What I think coin collecting is all about...in one image

RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
I saw the photo below in a thread discussing the pricing structure of Trade dollars during the Depression Borrowed from another thread(link) when Duiguy posted the photo below:

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I could not stop thinking about it! It encompasses just about everything I enjoy about coin collecting.

1. An early 19th century precious metal (silver) coin. How does such a thing survive the ravages of time? How did it failed to get melted, damaged, or lost over time? How many different owners? How many times was it used in commerce? Did anyone famous, like a Founding Father, ever handle it? How did it spend the Civil War? Etc.

2. Max Mehl and the history of numismatics. Numismatics has its own stories to tell, and after a certain point in time, the coin was removed from circulation and placed in a collection (or maybe a family heirloom at some point). How many collectors have owned the coin? Any famous collectors? Did the Clapp own it and upgrade it with another piece? Was it a pocket piece for FCC Boyd? How about notable dealers--we know Mehl owned it, how about Kosoff? Did it spend any time at Stack's in NY? With Birdie Johnson is St. Louis? Etc.

3. The design and manufacture if the coin. An allegorical design for a fledgling nation, how impressive it must have been to the citizens who encountered it at the time. Ye Olde Mint comes to mind.

4. A large, impressive, mid-grade circulated original-appearing coin that is over 200 years old. 'Nuff said.

5. The absence of slabs, stickers, and grading assessments is a throwback to a simpler time.

6. What were the circumstances of the Mehl auction that sold the coin for $3.60. Was lot #1695 an 1800 $1 in Gem? What else did the purchaser buy? Did he bid by mail? Was it a dealer or collector? Was the coin part of a larger consignment or something brought in, as a single, "over the counter" by someone desperate to feed a family? What was the estimated price in the catalog? Was it a rip for the buyer...or did he get buried? Etc.

At any rate, that one photo depicts just about everything I enjoy about collecting coins. image

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  • MilkmanDanMilkmanDan Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great post.
  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,636 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • Doctor:
    I absolutely, positively, agree with you. It never gets old, and the stories never end. Furthermore, new ones cointinue to sprout...image
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  • Very nice!!
  • guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,290 ✭✭✭

    That is well said. You took the words right out of my mouth.

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  • habaracahabaraca Posts: 2,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dirty Old Silver,,,,, Gray dirt,,,, love the look...

    Very Nice Post Robert
  • Lets say that coin is a VF 30 +- a little , it has went up about 800 times its value. I wonder if coins will do that in the next 70 or so years.
  • WingedLiberty1957WingedLiberty1957 Posts: 2,992 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Love this post! This boils things down perfectly.
  • jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Love this post! This boils things down perfectly. >>



    Yep !
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Lets say that coin is a VF 30 +- a little , it has went up about 800 times its value. I wonder if coins will do that in the next 70 or so years. >>


    Sorry, brother, but posts like that kill the romance of this thread, IMO.
  • It's to soon for me, I am still upset the other thread died. Go on without me, entertain your selves
  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,854 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well said, especially with respect to number 5.
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,458 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How about the background?? Was that photographed on a collectible doily box?? image

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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Imagine how many times that coin was slipped out of that envelope. Just look at the condition of the envelope.
    Imagine all the collectors who looked at the wear, the remaining luster (if any), the strike.
    Imagine how many collectors had that coin in their collection.
    Good stuff.
    I remember pulling our many of my early coins that were in envelopes and labeled Gem BU, CHBU, Fine, Very Fine...no numbers, just conditions.
    Brings back memories.
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,075 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've always loved that image, too.
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  • << <i>Well said, especially with respect to number 5. >>




    Ditto!

    All very well said. Thanks for posting.


  • << <i>I've always loved that image, too. >>

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  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,958 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yep- well said.
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  • NewEnglandRaritiesNewEnglandRarities Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭✭
    Awesome post RYK. I couldnt agree with you more in your statements. We need a few more posts like this in our forum and in our hobby to remind ourselves why we do this and how rare and truly special a lot of these coins are. I have always said we are just borrowers of these pieces for our lifetimes as they hopefully will outlive us and make many other generations happy to have "borrowed" them as well.
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  • michiganboymichiganboy Posts: 1,247 ✭✭✭
    Great post RYKimage I was star struck as well with thoughts of the past when I seen that picture posted in the earlier thread.
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  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,550 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good post! image
  • coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,320 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great post Robert.

    The history is fascinating. To think what that dollar could have seen...but we will never know. The fun is the guessing....
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    It would be really cool to see if anyone actually found the auction where Mehl offered this coin as Lot 1696.
  • Old coin, old paper, very good!!!
  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for the thoughtful post!.....and for the cool wallpaper, too. image

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