Major Burglary in Carlsbad, CA

ThePennyLady · September 17, 2012 9:18AM

Received this notice from the Numismatic Crime Information Center:

Investigators with the Carlsbad California police department are investigating a residential burglary where a large coin collection was taken. The collection containing high grade type material was bought in the early seventies and valued at several hundred thousand dollars.

A partial listing of stolen coins;

1794 half cent liberty facing rt. vf-20, 1806 draped bust,sm 6, stems MS60,classic head,13 stars,lg berries MS65,1855 Braided hair MS65, Large cent 1793 Flowing hair,chain,AMERI xf40, 1793 Flowing hair, wreath,lettered edge1 leaf xf40, 1794 Liberty Cap xf40, 1857 Flying eagle MS65, 1869 2 cent Proof,1873 3 cent nickel Proof, 1853 3cent silver Ty1 Ms65, 1873 3 cent silver Proof, 1866 5 cent shield with rays MS60, 1873 5 cent shield no rays Proof,1794 flowing hair 1/2 dime VF, 1796 draped bust sm eagle MS60,1829 capped bust 1/2dime ms60, 1838 Liberty seated 1/2dime var2, stars, no drapery Ms65, 1873 Liberty seated 1/2 dime, var 4, legend on obverse Proof, 1796 Draped Bust sm eagle ten cent xf40, 1801 heraldic eagle ten cent draped bust xf40,1853 Liberty seated ten cent, var3,arrows Ms65,1878 Liberty seated ten cent, var4, no stars, no arrows proof, 1875 S Twenty cent MS65, 1796 Draped bust small 25 cent MS60, 1821 Capped Bust 25 cent, lg size,5 berries, liberty unc, 1859 Capped Bust 25 cent, lg size, liberty cap proof, 1877 Liberty seated 25 cent, var4,motto Proof,1794 Flowing hair half, sm eagle fine, 1796 Draped bust half sm eagle, 16 stars VG8,1807 Draped bust half, heraldic eagle AU, 1855 Liberty seated half,var3, arrows no rays MS65, 1866 Liberty seated half, var4, motto abr, eagle proof, 1873 Liberty seated half, var 5, arrows Proof, 1892 Barber half proof, 1942 half Proof, 1795 Flowing hair dollar , 3leaves xf40, 1799 Draped bust dollar, heraldic eagle au50, 1863 Liberty seated dollar proof, 1866 Liberty seated dollar, motto on reverseproof, 1878s Morgan proof.

Complete set of Morgan dollars high grade
Complete set of Peace dollars high grade
Complete set of Lincoln cents high grade
Large number of foreign gold coins
Several stolen guns

Anyone having information on this offense should contact:

Det.Luc
760-931-2100
or
Doug Davis
817-723-7231
doug@numismaticcrimes.org

jdimmick · September 17, 2012 9:25AM

I am sorry to hear that, it never seems to amaze me why so many people keep collections like this at home.

Today, not this magnitude, but a lady who has been spending like 5k a week for the past 5 weeks buying silver bullion came in today and told me somebody broke in thier home while they were at church and took all the silver she had aquired over the past 2 months , something like 300 eagles, 250 face of halves , 200 face of quarters, and several various gold coins.

Justlooking · September 17, 2012 9:27AM

That makes me sick. Makes me remember how it felt when mine were taken ... and mine were mostly widgets.

notwilight · September 17, 2012 9:27AM

For those of you who know that I live in Carlsbad--it's not me. I haven't figured out who it is yet. --jerry

MsMorrisine · September 17, 2012 9:46AM

Received this notice from the Numismatic Crime Information Center:

Investigators with the Carlsbad California police department are investigating a residential burglary where a large coin collection was taken. The collection containing high grade type material was bought in the early seventies and valued at several hundred thousand dollars.

A partial listing of stolen coins;

1794 half cent liberty facing rt, vf-20
1806 draped bust, sm 6, stems MS60
classic head, 13 stars, lg berries MS65
1855 Braided hair MS65, Large cent

1793 Flowing hair, chain, AMERI xf40
1793 Flowing hair, wreath, lettered edge, 1 leaf xf40
1794 Liberty Cap xf40
1857 Flying eagle MS65

1869 2 cent Proof

1873 3 cent nickel Proof
1853 3 cent silver Ty1 Ms65
1873 3 cent silver Proof

1866 5 cent shield with rays MS60
1873 5 cent shield no rays Proof

1794 flowing hair 1/2 dime VF
1796 draped bust sm eagle MS60
1829 capped bust 1/2 dime ms60
1838 Liberty seated 1/2 dime var 2, stars, no drapery Ms65
1873 Liberty seated 1/2 dime, var 4, legend on obverse Proof

1796 Draped Bust sm eagle ten cent xf40
1801 heraldic eagle ten cent draped bust xf40
1853 Liberty seated ten cent, var 3, arrows Ms65
1878 Liberty seated ten cent, var 4, no stars, no arrows proof

1875 S Twenty cent MS65

1796 Draped bust small 25 cent MS60
1821 Capped Bust 25 cent, lg size,5 berries, liberty unc
1859 Capped Bust 25 cent, lg size, liberty cap proof
1877 Liberty seated 25 cent, var 4,motto Proof

1794 Flowing hair half, sm eagle fine
1796 Draped bust half sm eagle, 16 stars VG8
1807 Draped bust half, heraldic eagle AU
1855 Liberty seated half,var 3, arrows no rays MS65
1866 Liberty seated half, var 4, motto abr, eagle proof
1873 Liberty seated half, var 5, arrows Proof
1892 Barber half proof
1942 half Proof

1795 Flowing hair dollar , 3leaves xf40
1799 Draped bust dollar, heraldic eagle au50
1863 Liberty seated dollar, proof
1866 Liberty seated dollar, motto on reverse, proof
1878s Morgan proof

Complete set of Morgan dollars high grade
Complete set of Peace dollars high grade
Complete set of Lincoln cents high grade
Large number of foreign gold coins
Several stolen guns

Anyone having information on this offense should contact:

Det.Luc
760-931-2100
or
Doug Davis
817-723-7231
doug@numismaticcrimes.org

MsMorrisine · September 17, 2012 9:47AM

list-i-fied it

Matrix1980 · September 17, 2012 9:49AM

This is why I have a 9mm + .40 hand guns and a shotgun in my place. With lots of ammo and I always keep my expensive coins in my bank vault (not one even near my place either...that would be to obvious) they NEVER EVER come out of there. The guns are for those thinking of robbing me. I have a trigger finger happy hand so they would not last long!!! Plus I have my black belt in Karate and Aikido. Oh yes and a bullet proof vest as well!!!

First thing a robber will see walking threw my door is pure lead at FULL blast. Plus I work from home always so I am always here.

coindeuce · September 17, 2012 9:57AM

I was not aware that the SanFrancisco Mint issued a Proof Morgan Dollar.

michiganboy · September 17, 2012 10:12AM

More dirty losers taken from hard working people, like the justlooking said sick.

edited for spelling

LanLord · September 17, 2012 10:19AM

<< More dirty losers taken form hard working people, like the justlooking said sick. >>

What?

michiganboy · September 17, 2012 10:24AM

<< 

<< More dirty losers taken from hard working people, like the justlooking said sick. >>

What? >>

What do you mean what? Its sick some a hole took something that someones beens probably collecting for decades.

morgansforever · September 17, 2012 10:27AM

Is it just me or is there a different coin/bullion related crime everyday here on the CU?
Hope they're caught n prosecuted.

NewEnglandRarities · September 17, 2012 12:33PM

I always had to hear these stories and feel they are becoming all the more common around our hobby. I hope they catch these people and put them out there for everyone to see. Many people keep valuables in their homes where they are suppose to feel safe, but of course, in today's world there really is no "safe" environment for our collectables let alone everything else.

I wish the person(s) who lost there collection luck and hopefully a quick recovery.

rhedden · September 17, 2012 1:01PM

I'd like to see the crook try to dump some of the more distinctive coins from the list onto the market. These will draw attention, and might just result in an arrest.

I'll laugh in a couple of days when a new member with 0 posts shows up on this forum, and in broken English with poor spelling, wants to know what his uber-rare type coins are worth, because they were...ummm... found in an attic in grandpappy's house?

pennyannie · September 17, 2012 1:13PM

<< I am sorry to hear that, it never seems to amaze me why so many people keep collections like this at home.

If i can not enjoy it at home, what is the point?

I have multiple locations so it will take them a while to locate and find it plus i have insured most everything.

Buzzybest · September 17, 2012 1:23PM

<< This is why I have a 9mm + .40 hand guns and a shotgun in my place. With lots of ammo and I always keep my expensive coins in my bank vault (not one even near my place either...that would be to obvious) they NEVER EVER come out of there. The guns are for those thinking of robbing me. I have a trigger finger happy hand so they would not last long!!! Plus I have my black belt in Karate and Aikido. Oh yes and a bullet proof vest as well!!!

First thing a robber will see walking threw my door is pure lead at FULL blast. Plus I work from home always so I am always here. >>

All that to protect 2 coins????

MrEureka · September 17, 2012 1:26PM

<< More dirty losers taken form hard working people, like the justlooking said sick. >>

What? >>

"Taking from", not "taken form".

BAJJERFAN · September 17, 2012 1:41PM

<< 

<< This is why I have a 9mm + .40 hand guns and a shotgun in my place. With lots of ammo and I always keep my expensive coins in my bank vault (not one even near my place either...that would be to obvious) they NEVER EVER come out of there. The guns are for those thinking of robbing me. I have a trigger finger happy hand so they would not last long!!! Plus I have my black belt in Karate and Aikido. Oh yes and a bullet proof vest as well!!!

First thing a robber will see walking threw my door is pure lead at FULL blast. Plus I work from home always so I am always here. >>

All that to protect 2 coins???? >>

He has only 2 U.S. coins, LOL. Prolly has lots of Canadian coins.

BAJJERFAN · September 17, 2012 1:43PM

Wouldn't a full set of Morgans in high grade be worth at least a few hundred K or more just by themselves?

michiganboy · September 17, 2012 1:52PM

<< << More dirty losers taken form hard working people, like the justlooking said sick. >>

What? >>

"Taking from", not "taken form". >>

Give me a break. I'm typing on a Sony Google TV remote

Matrix1980 · September 17, 2012 1:53PM

BAJJERFAN:

No only 1 that is it... I sold the rest to finance that one. So 1 Canadian coin + 2 U.S coins that is it.

WoodenJefferson · September 17, 2012 2:02PM

Wasn't that guy, Darth5oh, who fell into his Grandfathers fantastic collection from Carlsbad?

ThePennyLady · September 17, 2012 2:46PM

Thank you MsMorrisine for listifying the stolen inventory - that's very helpful!

I know there are far too many coin thievery of all types, from residential to coin shops to coin shows to inventory stolen on the way home from a show. I think posting these notices is important to let the numismatic community know about stolen items in case they might come across some of them and can notify the listed authorities. It also helps to remind all us coin enthusiasts to be diligent wherever we are.

notwilight · September 17, 2012 10:34PM

<< Wasn't that guy, Darth5oh, who fell into his Grandfathers fantastic collection from Carlsbad? >>

Not that I recall. I think I would remember that but I might have missed it. I get busy and don't always read the forum. --Jerry

BAJJERFAN · September 17, 2012 11:10PM

BTW did they ever get the guys who jerked a guy's safe out of his house and right thru a wall in the Columbus, Ohio area around Xmas time a few years ago? IIRC he had some pricey Morgans in that safe.

LALASD4 · September 18, 2012 12:28AM

Wow, that is a large collection. Hope he is insured.

johnny9434 · September 18, 2012 5:26AM

that sure is a big loss. i hope they fry the bandits

thebeav · September 18, 2012 5:27AM

Looks like a lot more than 'hundreds of thousands' .......

Holy cow, an unc 1796 quarter for crying-out-loud.......

There's a lot of money here........

Sadinmass · September 18, 2012 6:54AM

Hi All,

These were my father's coins he moved out to CA from mass to enjoy the
good weather the remaining time he has on this planet. His health is not
well he has heart problems and has had minor strokes. He was safe
guarding them for my stepmother (his wife of many years) and her family
i hope this doesn't haunt him the rest of his life. He really loved
looking at these coins and i hope one day he can enjoy these coins once
again. Anyone that may come in contact with these coins please contact
authorities. They were not insured

(

What good are the coins if someone can't sit in there own home and look at them once in awhile for enjoyment.

Sincerely,
David Z

OperationButter · September 18, 2012 8:44AM

<< Hi All,

These were my father's coins he moved out to CA from mass to enjoy the
good weather the remaining time he has on this planet. His health is not
well he has heart problems and has had minor strokes. He was safe
guarding them for my stepmother (his wife of many years) and her family
i hope this doesn't haunt him the rest of his life. He really loved
looking at these coins and i hope one day he can enjoy these coins once
again. Anyone that may come in contact with these coins please contact
authorities. They were not insured

(

What good are the coins if someone can't sit in there own home and look at them once in awhile for enjoyment.

Sincerely,
David Z >>

Im sorry for the loss

seanq · September 18, 2012 9:51AM

I don't know how long ago he relocated, but if I were the police my first call would be to the moving company. It doesn't sound like your father has been in that area long enough to get on the radar of local thieves, but the movers would have seen exactly what he had and where he kept it. Best of luck to you and your family in recovering the collection.

Sean Reynolds

ebaybuyer · September 18, 2012 1:18PM

to find out who stole them, make a list of the people who knew about them.

Sadinmass · September 18, 2012 8:43PM

No stone will go unturned!

gonzer · September 18, 2012 9:21PM

<< I don't know how long ago he relocated, but if I were the police my first call would be to the moving company. It doesn't sound like your father has been in that area long enough to get on the radar of local thieves, but the movers would have seen exactly what he had and where he kept it. Best of luck to you and your family in recovering the collection.

Sean Reynolds >>

That's an extremely logical deduction Sean.

Sadinmass · September 19, 2012 10:30PM

how much of that coin's value is plastic and bean ?

Not sure what this means sorry. As far as i know this is just a partial list. Thanks to all for well wishes!

Dave

MsMorrisine · September 19, 2012 10:43PM

<< how much of that coin's value is plastic and bean ?

Not sure what this means sorry. As far as i know this is just a partial list. Thanks to all for well wishes!

Dave >>

PLASTIC - graded by a grading company like PCGS, NGC, ANACS, etc.
Beaned - secondary evaluation service called CAC to backup the grade on the holder - stickers given on the Plastic

Plastic w/ sticker (a/k/a slab with green bean):

MsMorrisine · September 19, 2012 10:44PM

if they are in plastic, it'd help to know the serial numbers and which grading company graded it, as well as if CAC has seen them or not.

Sadinmass · September 20, 2012 1:56AM

Thanks for the info, I really was never into coins or really paid much attention if they were graded or not.

Major Burglary in Carlsbad, CA

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