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morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,484 ✭✭✭✭✭
Or is it within Mint tolerance and no big deal?

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  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,484 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,096 ✭✭✭
    Within tolerance, no premium.

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  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's within Mint tolerance;
    don't spend the money
    for an error submission
    to either PCGS or NGC;
    you won't get the RR
    designation........
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  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,484 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks Fred and Paul. So what is the tolerance? Is this reverse rotated about 10° CW?
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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,309 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Usually, the tolerance is considered 15°. This coin looks like 12°. Even if this were over 30°, however, I doubt it would bring a premium until you hit 90°.
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,250 ✭✭✭✭✭
    nice grade but id leave it alone just as is.
  • I would not consider sending in anything rotated less then 90 degrees, the collector interest and value increase is minimal at best.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,750 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Tolerance is 15 degrees.

    IMHO, significant starts at 45 degrees.
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  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    I sure don't think that small rotation should bring a premium.
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭✭✭
    can't anyone just see it's rotated anyhow?

    LCoopie = Les
  • LochNESSLochNESS Posts: 4,829 ✭✭✭
    Very interesting to see all the different perspectives on RR and varying degrees thresholds. I have a number of coins which I didn't even realize were RR until the slabs came home, and it became more clear they were 10 or 15° off ... I feel like this is more common then most collectors realize ... I estimate I have an equal amount of coins with 10° RR then I do perfectly aligned.

    My opinion is to leave it alone. You've got a gorgeous coin, with great luster IMO, and as lcoopie stated anyone can see the RR thanks to your slab which makes it extremely obvious due to the nature of a large rectangle with perfect right angles.
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  • MilkmanDanMilkmanDan Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No offense, but it's kind of a negative to me on a modern. It's rotated enough to be annoying, but not enough to be cool.
  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,484 ✭✭✭✭✭
    45° CW would look really cool IMO. The MM would be at 9 o'clock.
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  • MilkmanDanMilkmanDan Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    At some level it is still fascinating that even in 2005 the minting process is not so robotic that you still see unintended rotation.
  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,484 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <<At some level it is still fascinating that even in 2005 the minting process is not so robotic that you still see unintended rotation.>>

    I agree. I bought it in 05, thought it was unique, think I paid $40 for it slabbed at a small shop.
    Still have my box of 10 MC comeems unopened from the Mint.
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