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Error Experts, please comment on this extreme MAD Error
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I picked this one up and it is by far the most Misaligned Die Error that I have ever seen.
What do you guys think of it?
Have you seen a MAD Error as misaligned as this one or one with even more misalignment?
Have you seen any other MAD errors just like this one struck by the same dies/date?
How does this happen?
I thought this is a great example and had to have it for my 2000 error type set.
What do you guys think of it?
Have you seen a MAD Error as misaligned as this one or one with even more misalignment?
Have you seen any other MAD errors just like this one struck by the same dies/date?
How does this happen?
I thought this is a great example and had to have it for my 2000 error type set.
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-Paul
Was this coin also broadstruck? Would it even be possible for this coin to be struck in collar? Cool coin!
So, I thought, "too bad you cant tell if this is a wide am or not"
then I recalled, that the "TAT" in States is also a tell.
Correct?
And in this picture, the "TAT" formation is indicative of a "close am"
Correct?
Thanks for the TAT tip.
I've never seen anything like that.
The reverse die might as well been in Denver.
seems like one of those "no accidents" to me.
<< <i>... Would it even be possible for this coin to be struck in collar? ... >>
For a coin to be struck entirely in a collar, both dies have to be in the collar simultaneously during the strike.
The lower die sits in the collar. The upper die has to be aligned with the collar, so that it will enter the collar during the striking.
If the alignment is off, the upper die will hit the collar. But to prevent catastrophic damage, the collar floats on air pistons.
The collar will be pushed down by the mis-aligned upper die, so when the planchet is squeezed by the dies, it is rarely
fully-contained by the collar. Usually, such a coin will exhibit a partial collar or broadstrike.
See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
Sean Reynolds
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I ever recall seeing - very impressive.
Very impressive - very neat error.
<< <i>An impressive example, but larger ones are known. I've previously written about a 2000-D cent with a 40% misalignment (in combination with a rotated obverse die), a 1983-D nickel with a 35% misalignment (on the second strike), and a dime with a 50% misalignment (in combination with a vertical misalignment and a weak strike). >>
Thank you for the information Mike, it is very much appreciated.
So you know of 3 other MAD Errors more off than mine in all of US Coinage from all dates. Forth place isn't even a Bronze
<< <i>I saw this on ebay and big what I thought was pretty strong...but it was not quite good enough.
Very impressive - very neat error. >>
Did you come in Second? The price doubled in the last 4 seconds .....
You were still way short as I nuke bid this
<< <i>For a coin to be struck entirely in a collar, both dies have to be in the collar simultaneously during the strike.
The lower die sits in the collar. The upper die has to be aligned with the collar, so that it will enter the collar during the striking.
If the alignment is off, the upper die will hit the collar. But to prevent catastrophic damage, the collar floats on air pistons.
The collar will be pushed down by the mis-aligned upper die, so when the planchet is squeezed by the dies, it is rarely
fully-contained by the collar. Usually, such a coin will exhibit a partial collar or broadstrike.
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Thanks for the info. It's very interesting.
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<< <i>An impressive example, but larger ones are known. I've previously written about a 2000-D cent with a 40% misalignment (in combination with a rotated obverse die), a 1983-D nickel with a 35% misalignment (on the second strike), and a dime with a 50% misalignment (in combination with a vertical misalignment and a weak strike). >>
Thank you for the information Mike, it is very much appreciated.
So you know of 3 other MAD Errors more off than mine in all of US Coinage from all dates. Forth place isn't even a Bronze
A recent Jim's Coins auction catalog featured a copper-alloy cent with a 50% horizontal misalignment in combination with a vertical misalignment (tilted die error). However, the strike was so weak that all you could see of the obverse die was the rim gutter and all you could see of the reverse design was a little bit of the center of the Memorial. In the case of such a weak strike, there's no way to establish authenticity. But if it was genuine, it would be equal to the most severe horizontal misalignments I'm aware of. There's also an undated proof nickel (allegedly from 1968) with a 40% misalignment on the second strike.