Want to see the pictures you did not know PCGS took of your coins???

WaterSport · August 1, 2012 8:36AM

Then go to your sets and look ! I got about a dozen. And if you try to look up the Cert #, you will get an error. So I am sure its some computer glitch that will be corrected soon so hurry up and look!

WS

blu62vette · August 1, 2012 8:44AM

I see a couple secure plus images, not the truview or coinfacts images.

WaterSport · August 1, 2012 8:46AM

I am showing my one and only Trueview I deleted from my sets out of protest a couple weeks ago.

WS

DIMEMAN · August 1, 2012 8:53AM

I like it when they take pics of my coins and put them in coinfacts. The I can use the pic in my sets.

BustHalfBrian · August 1, 2012 9:01AM

PCGS has been taking photos of our (the shop's) coins like crazy lately! I'm not sure if it's some new service they're providing to keep track of coins they've certified through some imaging program or something, but heck, free professional imaging?! No complaints here!

-Brian

illini420 · August 1, 2012 9:02AM

<< I like it when they take pics of my coins and put them in coinfacts. The I can use the pic in my sets.

>>

I like that too, but I wish they would email you or let you know somehow when they so a photo. Also a shame those great photos are not tied to the cert numbers when you do a cert lookup. I have had coins graded and never knew they had coinfacts photo until I was selling and looking up recent sales in Coinfacts.

BustHalfBrian · August 1, 2012 9:02AM

Same here! They've been doing that with most of my submissions lately.

-Brian

BustHalfBrian · August 1, 2012 9:03AM

Whenever I type in a cert number, the CoinFacts photo (if there is one) usual pops up on my end, Mike.

-Brian

Bochiman · August 1, 2012 9:15AM

A most excellent catch and post, Watersport

I did not know the below were in there before, but I just looked and found them and some others). Due to the toning, I am glad that PCGS did image them as they did much better than I could.
Since I don't submit a ton, I took a look at some of the submissions and seem to have noticed that, for me at least, the only ones that pop up like this are from this year (not back in 2011 or before).

PS....too bad the PREVIEW function is still broken

coinbuf · August 1, 2012 10:06AM

Well I only got one pic added, but its better than nothing

Tdec1000 · August 1, 2012 10:13AM

Do you need to have a registry set to see them?

Bochiman · August 1, 2012 10:40AM

<< Do you need to have a registry set to see them? >>

No.
Just go to your submissions page and click on the cert #

coinbuf · August 1, 2012 11:29AM

Anyone know when thay started doing this??

mozin · August 1, 2012 11:32AM

The CoinFacts pictures are not of very good quality, especially when compared to TruViews.

halfhunter · August 1, 2012 11:51AM

<< A most excellent catch and post, Watersport

I did not know the below were in there before, but I just looked and found them and some others). Due to the toning, I am glad that PCGS did image them as they did much better than I could.
Since I don't submit a ton, I took a look at some of the submissions and seem to have noticed that, for me at least, the only ones that pop up like this are from this year (not back in 2011 or before).

PS....too bad the PREVIEW function is still broken

>>

Man . . . that EOR toner is AWESOME ! ! !

HH

Bochiman · August 1, 2012 12:06PM

<< The CoinFacts pictures are not of very good quality, especially when compared to TruViews. >>

You're just on a roll lately, aren't you?

So, you don't think the 2 that I pictured are equal to the TV? Tell me the difference please....tell me how much about the process YOU know

Bochiman · August 1, 2012 12:16PM

<< The CoinFacts pictures are not of very good quality, especially when compared to TruViews. >>

Here ya go, Mozin....I don't want you to have egg on your face, or foot in your mouth, too long.....

Check out this thread.....and then scroll down to PCGSPhoto (Phil) and the reply in there.....
I'll even quote it for you here to try to cheer up your obviously sour disposition as everything you have posted lately has been argumentative, demeaning, or just plain ignorant (like your post here) and wrong....

July 25th, 2012, PCGSPhoto said:
TrueView images and CoinFacts images are essentially the same. The system displays the PCGS background for people who have purchased TrueView pics, and the system subtracts it for coins that appear on CoinFacts. SecurePlus pics also have white backgrounds (but no drop shadow) and are lower res, but I've been helping out trying to improve their quality, and they've come a long way in that regard.

So, that would seem to refute whatever belief you have by saying that the coinfacts images are subpar to the trueview.

Now, if you had said the backgrounds make them look worse...I could understand. Or if you said the secureplus pictures (since they are lower resolution), again, I could understand. However, neither is what you said.

Rather than let your ignorance make others look down on the coinfacts photos, I chose to post the truth above, as it came "from the horse's mouth" (sorry Phil

).

illini420 · August 1, 2012 12:20PM

<< Whenever I type in a cert number, the CoinFacts photo (if there is one) usual pops up on my end, Mike.

-Brian >>

Thanks! I just went and checked the cert number of one that I had in mind that was on CoinFacts but didn't work w/ cert verification and I now see the photo there. They must have put it up on CoinFacts and then later added it to the cert verification. Cool. Here's a link to the cert verification of the coin if anyone wanted to see, it's a great photo and equal to a trueview photo when blown up, just doesn't have the background of a trueview...

1857 Large Cent Certificate Verification

BustHalfBrian · August 1, 2012 12:23PM

This is my latest submission that PCGS is using on CoinFacts...

I like referring to it as my "plate coin"

-Brian

Bochiman · August 1, 2012 12:39PM

<< 

<< Whenever I type in a cert number, the CoinFacts photo (if there is one) usual pops up on my end, Mike.

-Brian >>

Thanks! I just went and checked the cert number of one that I had in mind that was on CoinFacts but didn't work w/ cert verification and I now see the photo there. They must have put it up on CoinFacts and then later added it to the cert verification. Cool. Here's a link to the cert verification of the coin if anyone wanted to see, it's a great photo and equal to a trueview photo when blown up, just doesn't have the background of a trueview...

1857 Large Cent Certificate Verification >>

Mike,

That is SWEET!!!! Super nice looking large cents!

Bochiman · August 1, 2012 12:40PM

Busthalfbrian.....

You should turn on your PM function....

Tdec1000 · August 1, 2012 1:20PM

None of mine are photo'd. Except for the ones I paid for.

lkeigwin · August 1, 2012 1:46PM

Interesting. I see a dozen or more I didn't know existed.

Some are okay photos. Some are comical. Here are examples.
Lance.

PCGS photo

Real view

PCGS photo

Real view

BustHalfBrian · August 1, 2012 2:00PM

<< Busthalfbrian.....

You should turn on your PM function.... >>

I'm not entirely sure how to do that... Sorry.

I've read the "online manual", but it's hard for a n00b like me to understand.

-Brian

EDIT: Ohh, just figured it out. Nevermind!

MilkmanDan · August 1, 2012 2:35PM

lkeigwin it appears the first photo is a TrueView/Coinfacts quality photo and the second is the inferior SecurePlus quality photo.

OnlyGoldIsMoney · August 1, 2012 2:46PM

I found that Coinfacts photographs are automatically showing up in my Registry sets.

A number of my coins are in Coinfacts including these three I didn't realize were included.

mozin · August 1, 2012 3:41PM

Plug in any of these cert numbers and you will see the pictures that I think are not so very nice.

19984964
19984965
19984966
19984967
19984968
19984969
19984970
19984971

LochNESS · August 1, 2012 3:59PM

I agree, while this is very cool (who doesn't like FREE photos) some aren't so great. Still, it's FREE!

devious · August 1, 2012 4:03PM

<< Plug in any of these cert numbers and you will see the pictures that I think are not so very nice.

19984964
19984965
19984966
19984967
19984968
19984969
19984970
19984971 >>

Those are scanned images. Not photographed via a camera. Those ALWAYS come with secure grading service. Those are the "fingerprints" of the coins for the secure grading. Hope you get it now. :-)

edit to add: You can have TrueView images in conjunction with your secure plus "fingerprint" images. The TrueView images are done with a camera whereas the fingerprint images are done with what I believe to be a scanner-like device.

Bochiman · August 1, 2012 4:03PM

<< Plug in any of these cert numbers and you will see the pictures that I think are not so very nice.

19984964
19984965
19984966
19984967
19984968
19984969
19984970
19984971 >>

I only plugged in the first one but noticed right away that it is a secureplus photo....not a coinfacts/trueview.
Please note that this thread is about the coinfacts/trueview pics and, as stated, they are the same photo....different background

mozin · August 1, 2012 4:18PM

Well then, the only coins of mine in my Registry sets that show the side-by-side pictures added on with the pictures I myself uploaded, indicating they came from PCGS, are for my SecurePlus coins I have in my sets. I could not find any PCGS pictures in my sets that appear to be from CoinFacts. Perhaps only CoinFacts subscribers are getting in on the free pictures of quality.

LochNESS · August 1, 2012 4:26PM

Yes I too am now very confused ... and I do not have a CoinFacts subscription because I mostly deal in darkside ... The only photos I seem to have on pcgs.com are the ones I uploaded to My Set Registry, and the scans they took when slabbing (all world coins get secure plus treatment as mandated so they all got scans)

Bochiman · August 1, 2012 4:26PM

<< Well then, the only coins of mine in my Registry sets that show the side-by-side pictures added on with the pictures I myself uploaded, indicating they came from PCGS, are for my SecurePlus coins I have in my sets. I could not find any PCGS pictures in my sets that appear to be from CoinFacts. Perhaps only CoinFacts subscribers are getting in on the free pictures of quality. >>

Have you submitted any non-generic looking coins this calendar year?
Not being smart about it, but going by what Phil mentioned and by what I have noticed. Combining the items, it appears to me that toned coins, nice looking coins for the grade, and other non-modern coins, are making the grade for the extra photos. Looking back on my submissions, none of the 2011, or prior, coin submissions have this. But, some of my early 2012 do (March I think it was).

mozin · August 1, 2012 5:06PM

Everything I submitted this calendar year went into SecurePlus holders.

19Lyds · August 1, 2012 7:30PM

<< Interesting. I see a dozen or more I didn't know existed.

Some are okay photos. Some are comical. Here are examples.
Lance.

PCGS photo

Real view

PCGS photo

Real view

>>

The 1860 is a CoinFacts Photo while the 1869 is a Secure Plus Scan.

Not all coins get a Secure Plus scan however PCGS does scan random coins on occasion without having the submitter request secure plus.

ALL coins submitted for Secure Plus grading get a scan such as your 1869. These scans are not intended to be true photo's but are more of a system reference scan. Hence, the visual quality is not very pleasing.

LochNESS · August 1, 2012 9:21PM

We may be splitting hairs but ... isn't the entire point of Secure Plus photos to create a visual grade reference so they can identify the "fingerprint" of the coin at future crossroads?

How will they achieve this "extra level of security" with mediocre images?

copperhunter · August 1, 2012 10:15PM

Varieties are getting photographed for CoinFacts as well, as those are in light supply. It seems they are attempting to rapidly backfill their library to make the product more valuable. I think that those people who submitted coins which unknowingly (to them) have ended up into the CoinFacts area should be granted a discount for the Coin Facts service as a thank you!

I personally do not like to have the SecurePlus photos showing up in my registry, as they ruin the continuity and nicity of the set which I have tried to accomplish with good pictures (well, the best I can do anyway) that are consistent. These blurry photos from SecurePlus cannot even be deleted when you access them from My Inventory within your set registry.

lusterlover · August 1, 2012 10:55PM

I found 2 I never knew existed. Thanks for the tip. I wish there were more. As CH pointed out, I could probably explain the first one given it's a variety, but scratching my head on the 2nd. Perhaps because I was the only stooge to submit a AU55 in this date?

TwoKopeiki · August 2, 2012 1:21AM

Nice. It seems I have quite a few imaged for CoinFacts.

Phil must like toning

19Lyds · August 2, 2012 4:04AM

<< We may be splitting hairs but ... isn't the entire point of Secure Plus photos to create a visual grade reference so they can identify the "fingerprint" of the coin at future crossroads?

How will they achieve this "extra level of security" with mediocre images? >>

Simple.

The Secure Plus scan is intended for PCGS and its database, not the consumer.

TrueView is intended for the consumer.

lkeigwin · August 2, 2012 4:29AM

<< I personally do not like to have the SecurePlus photos showing up in my registry, as they ruin the continuity and nicity of the set which I have tried to accomplish with good pictures (well, the best I can do anyway) that are consistent. These blurry photos from SecurePlus cannot even be deleted when you access them from My Inventory within your set registry. >>

I agree. I don't want the ugly scans showing up in my inventory and registry sets. Same for the Coinfacts images (though I am a subscriber and love the tool). I am not impressed by the quality.

I can live with most of the Trueviews but would like the option of deleting any or all of them from my sets too. Poor photos should not be forced on us.
Lance.

MilkmanDan · August 2, 2012 5:36AM

For those not seeing any pictures, you might check to see if you have the "Import TrueView or PCGS Secure Plus images when adding my new items " preference unchecked. If you do, the pictures will not appear in your set automatically.

Edit to add: you can toggle this preference to show or hide the TrueView/SP/Coinfacts pictures.

mozin · August 2, 2012 6:16AM

We should be able to delete the SecurePlus photos from our Registry inventory. Makes no sense that we are forced to have those pictures showing. Give us a delete option, and change the profile preferences to have separate boxes to check for TrueView automatic imports, for CoinFacts photos, and for the SecurePlus photos.

Swampboy · August 2, 2012 6:33AM

Great thread!
Didn't know this pic was taken of my 1/0 66RB.

LanceNewmanOCC · August 2, 2012 6:54AM

.
here are my 2 meager contributions to the database

1955 Rev Toner
1955 cert page

1825 N1 1c
1825 cert page
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Bochiman · August 2, 2012 7:48AM

<< We should be able to delete the SecurePlus photos from our Registry inventory. Makes no sense that we are forced to have those pictures showing. Give us a delete option, and change the profile preferences to have separate boxes to check for TrueView automatic imports, for CoinFacts photos, and for the SecurePlus photos. >>

Telling us on the forum doesn't help much. I know some agree with you but we are all powerless.
You should PM your suggestions to DonWillis

copperhunter · August 2, 2012 8:02AM

Swampboy - Awesome '33d

WaterSport · August 2, 2012 10:39AM

Don't get your coin purses in a knot over what they are or where they are, how good they are or why you can not get rid of them etc., etc., etc. I am sure this is some PCGS computer glitch and they will all disappear soon.

WS

coinbuf · August 2, 2012 10:50AM

Np for me as I only had one show up anyway, funny thing is I have'nt submitted since '06

copperhunter · August 2, 2012 11:30AM

In other words, save the CoinFacts photos to iPhoto ASAP

NeoStar · August 2, 2012 10:06PM

I had one show up. It didn't look nice so I changed my preferences to not allow the image to show on my Registry. It's a toned coin and the Secure scan doesn't look very nice.

Want to see the pictures you did not know PCGS took of your coins???

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