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interesting to think how this error was made
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No way to tell what actually happened, of course.
sweet piece....very sweet piece
i imagine graders take an extra second or 2 too...
bob
Still, is it worth $1500??? Seems a bit steep. I don't collect these, so I don't know....
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<< <i>Cool coin... I think some of the mint workers get bored (like any job) and say... Hey carl, watch this, and chucked a dime planchet in the cent tub.
Still, is it worth $1500??? Seems a bit steep. I don't collect these, so I don't know.... >>
I don't think so. This is a very explainable error. Struck dimes get stuck in the seams of the bin and then cent planchets get dumped in and loosen the dimes. Then off the the cent presses, it is that simple.
<< <i>Cool coin... I think some of the mint workers get bored (like any job) and say... Hey carl, watch this, and chucked a dime planchet in the cent tub.
Still, is it worth $1500??? Seems a bit steep. I don't collect these, so I don't know.... >>
Double denomination errors with two visible dates general command a good price. One like this will "retail" in the $1000-1500, depending on the eye appeal with those with two "full" dates commanding the highest level.
See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
Ike? midnight shift?......really
<< <i>Yup, more or less. The "prevailing wisdom" actually is more the opposite -- a struck dime *didn't* get dumped out of the bin that originally held a zillion other struck dimes, and then the same bin got reused to hold blank cent planchets and the dime got mixed in.
No way to tell what actually happened, of course. >>
Back in the early 80's as we were taking some Summer Seminar students on a floor tour of the Denver Mint (right down on the press floor back then!) I saw a row of empty tote bins up against a wall. Curious to test the theory that you state, I walked over and started looking into the bins. The fifth one I looked at had a coin stuck in the gate at the bottom.
TD
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<< <i>Cool coin... I think some of the mint workers get bored (like any job) and say... Hey carl, watch this, and chucked a dime planchet in the cent tub.
Still, is it worth $1500??? Seems a bit steep. I don't collect these, so I don't know.... >>
Double denomination errors with two visible dates general command a good price. One like this will "retail" in the $1000-1500, depending on the eye appeal with those with two "full" dates commanding the highest level. >>
...or better yet those with two different dates
explained, and as Tom D. mentioned,
viewed again and again at the Mint.
A basic explaination:
The large metal bins at the Mint are filled
with Planchets, and then moved over to
the Press area, where the bin is lifted, and
a 'drop door' opens, and the planchets are
fed into a device that feds them into the
coin shoot, and then are fed by the feeder
fingers into the coining press. Let's say Dimes.
(this process changes somewhat over the
years, of course, and is very different today,
with the horizontal Schuler Presses.)
When the bin is emptied, the door is shut,
and the bid moved to another area of the
floor - being empty for a day or two, or up
to many many months, depending on what
the Mint is striking, etc.
If a planchet gets caught in the 'trap door',
or stays in the bin (Arnie Margolis actually
took photos of this situation back in the 70's)
it will stay in that bin until the bin is pulled out
at a later date, and filled with, let's say with
Cent planchets - the bin then goes thru the
same operation as before, except THIS time
the dime planchet gets jarred/loosened, and
goes in the Cent Press along with thousands
of cent planchets, and ergo - you have a Cent
struck on a Dime Planchet.
Now, the same bins, in the past, have been
used for STRUCK coins, and the same thing
can occur - a STRUCK coin gets caught in the
bin door, in the corner, etc. - and following
thru the process, gets struck AGAIN by Cent
Dies - ergo - a Cent Struck on a Struck Dime
(Double Denomination)
These are eye-appealing, and in general,
considered similar to the $20 High Relief -
a beautiful coin that is not really rare - but
dramatic and collectors love 'em.
For dates between around 1999 and 2001,
I've handled well over 800 pcs. of both
Clad Cents and Double Denominatin 11C pieces.
This type of error is not made on purpose, on
the midnight shift, or by any other purposeful
manner - but yes, there are obviously numerous
errors that were made on purpose for various
reasons, as well as dramatic errors that were
made in the normal course of minting that should
not have gotten out, but did.
I've always considered there to be three types of
mechanical errors made, as described above.
<< <i>and some would offer that it was intentionally made >>
theres plenty of wiggle room there