Help with grading

hiijacker · July 19, 2012 7:44AM

Was considering buying this coin. What do you think it would grade?

AUandAG · July 19, 2012 7:49AM

The scratches on the cheek and under her chin will limit the grade to no better than MS63,
in my opinion.

bob

PS: Not the most attractive coin. What mintmark is it?

coinbuf · July 19, 2012 7:57AM

<< <i>The scratches on the cheek and under her chin will limit the grade to no better than MS63,
in my opinion.

bob

PS: Not the most attractive coin. What mintmark is it? >>

Its an "S" mintmark, imo it grades unatractive and I'd pass unless the price is very discounted.

hiijacker · July 19, 2012 8:00AM

Yes. It is a 1885-s. I will double check to see if the scratches are on the cheek or the holder again. But it is currently graded a MS64 by ANA Grading. I would not expect an ANACS coin to crossover easily. But would ANA grading have a better shot at crossing?

AUandAG · July 19, 2012 8:05AM

<< <i>Yes. It is a 1885-s. I will double check to see if the scratches are on the cheek or the holder again. But it is currently graded a MS64 by ANA Grading. I would not expect an ANACS coin to crossover easily. But would ANA grading have a better shot at crossing? >>

I wonder if it has continued to tone in the holder to the point it is quite unattractive. I thought it was
an 1886-s when I saw it earlier!

bob

coinkat · July 19, 2012 8:07AM

I like it and the lustre looks pretty good. I will be in the minority on this one. The lines look to be on the coin and not the plastic. The 1885-s always, always looks as if it was dropped down a garbage disposal in terms of bag marks.

There is no upgrade at 64 and while I think 64 is reasonable, I tend to doubt others would.

This is a coin that either you like or do not- there is no middle ground which makes it a tough sell

joebb21 · July 19, 2012 8:08AM

63-64

Timbuk3 · July 19, 2012 9:07AM

63+ possibly 64 !!!

Steve27 · July 19, 2012 9:11AM

It's too ugly to grade.

stealer · July 19, 2012 9:11AM

My first impression was a 4 with the reverse carrying a bit of weight...I think today at PCGS it'll grade a 3 for sure because of the thick dark toning on the obv however. Word of caution, although many people glorify those old white ANA holders the majority have already been picked over for a few decades for upgrades and very few exist anymore that would upgrade.

TPRC · July 19, 2012 9:42AM

<< <i>My first impression was a 4 with the reverse carrying a bit of weight...I think today at PCGS it'll grade a 3 for sure because of the thick dark toning on the obv however. Word of caution, although many people glorify those old white ANA holders the majority have already been picked over for a few decades for upgrades and very few exist anymore that would upgrade. >>

DoubleEagle59 · July 19, 2012 10:07AM

<< <i>It's too ugly to grade. >>

This is exactly the mentality that results in so many dipped coins.

I actually like the coin and like the original toning.

I'll give it a strong 63, possibly a 64.

lkeigwin · July 19, 2012 10:24AM

The cheek scratches may not be very bad. It looks like the lighting emphasized them. It has a shot at crossing at 64, IMO.

The reverse is nicer but reverses don't bump grades, only lower them.

It's not my taste either. But that's not important.
Lance.

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