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Error collectors - How important in your purchase of error coins are ...............

SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 13,094 ✭✭✭✭✭
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1. strike;

2. marks;

3. luster; and/or

4. eye appeal?

These factors are evaluated by collectors of non error coins and are considered important. How about in the error field?

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    RampageRampage Posts: 9,679 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Assuming you mean actual errors and not varieties, my opinions are as follows:

    1) Strikes not all that important.
    2) I do not mind bag marks.
    3) For an uncirculated coin, I'd like to see luster.
    4) It should have great eye appeal.
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    seanqseanq Posts: 8,826 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Couldn't care less about any of them, if it's a coin I need for one of my sets I'm interested no matter how ugly.


    Sean Reynolds
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    MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,747 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Eye appeal (which includes strike, marks, luster, etc) is critical. So is the dramatic effect of the error. In other words, it's all about the "wow factor".

    Granted, some people may be willing to compromise on eye appeal and drama if they need the coin to fill an otherwise unfillable hole.
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    goodmoney4badmoneygoodmoney4badmoney Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I collect modern error coins only.
    Strike quality, bag marks, luster and grade don't matter to me a whole lot, but most modern errors come uncirculated anyway. Eye-appeal is a big factor in what I like.
    Sometimes for certain errors there are only a small few...or even just one example of a certain coin/type....so you must accept the way it comes regardless.
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    jmcu12jmcu12 Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭
    I would have to agree with seanq on this. If I dont have it then what it looks like has less to do with the intent to purchase. But if I had to rank them...

    From 1-10

    1. strike; (7 - I prefer more dramatic mechanical errors so this is more important for me)

    2. marks;(3 - If I need it and it is otherwise all messed up, that is of very minor importance for me)

    3. luster; and/or (4 or 5 - again it really depends on how much I want it)

    4. eye appeal? (4 or 5 - the need for an item can forgive a lot of sins)

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    MedalCollectorMedalCollector Posts: 2,095 ✭✭✭✭✭
    IMO
    Strike is not important
    Marks are not important
    Luster is nice to have but not important
    Eye Appeal is very important and probably the only reason I collect errors. The error itself is the appeal and what makes it so collectable. The strike and bag marks are not taken into consideration when evaluating eye appeal for me. I think errors are mostly valued not by grade, but by what the actual error is. When I look at an error it is either circulated or uncirculated, the actual grade isn't important to me. You don't hear of people resubmitting error coins to get a better grade (varieties are different and a few exceptions like the MEL dollars).

    I am much like a classic coin collector in the fact that corrosion and damage bothers me. If when evaluating an error I see damage or corrosion, I know my eye will always be brought to it and so I try to avoid buying problem erros, no matter how rare or strange they are. If it is for the one set of errors that I am trying to put together, I would accept a problem coin to complete it.
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    ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Eye appeal and the "Error" are the most important.


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    errormavenerrormaven Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭
    None of these are especially important to me. I focus on pattern and process, rarity, novelty, and how unusual the sequence of events is.

    But among those factors you've listed, eye appeal would be important followed by the (relative abscence of) "marks". By "marks" I assume you're referring to post-strike damage. A few minor dings are no big deal. Heavy abrasions, a profusion of contact marks, and any crushing or bending are big turn-offs. Unfortunately for the buyer, heavy damage is often no barrier to an error coin being slabbed MS-64 and higher.
    Mike Diamond is an error coin writer and researcher. Views expressed here do not necessarily reflect those held by any organization I am a member of.
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    EXOJUNKIEEXOJUNKIE Posts: 1,638 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>None of these are especially important to me. I focus on pattern and process, rarity, novelty, and how unusual the sequence of events is. But among those factors you've listed, eye appeal would be important followed by the (relative abscence of) "marks". By "marks" I assume you're referring to post-strike damage. A few minor dings are no big deal. Heavy abrasions, a profusion of contact marks, and any crushing or bending are big turn-offs. >>



    I concur. Errors are often complicated, with many unique, and thus IMO all factors mentioned must be considered holistically, and in no particular order. I suppose to most collectors eye appeal will be the dominant consideration, but another way to describe eye appeal is to simply say "I know what I like when I see it." image
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    astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Eye appeal is paramount ... unless on a twenty-cent piece, then anything goes! image

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    gonzergonzer Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sometimes when a very major error does not have bag marks that's when suspicions arise.
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    19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Eye appeal and the "Error" are the most important. >>

    From a "pricing standpoint", the 4 items outlined by Kevin are most certainly required.

    However, to the dedicated error collector, they mean little compared to understanding the actual error itself since they are collecting the "error" and not necessarily the coin.
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